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Traye Hearn
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Ashdown, Arkansas
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Line breeding to Big Country

I’ve got a female that I’m considering breeding that’s dam is a letter mate to Big Country so it would be a full uncle x niece cross. Is that to close of a cross or is it something that’s desirable?

————GRNITECH DOUBLE SPRINGS BODACIOUS
——GRNITECH GOODSONS ROWDY BOCEPHUS
————GRNITECH DAVIS’S WHITE RIVER SALIN SADIE
—GRNITECH BIG COUNTRY
————GRNITECH MCDONALD’S HAT CREEK D-CON
——GRNITECH SHELTON’S COTTON OXY
————GRNITECH SHELTON’S TALLY HO

PUPS

————GRNITECH SMILEY’S RAMBO II
——GRNITECH HEARN’S BLUE BRUMMY
————NITECH SMILEY’S CRYSTAL BLUE
—NITECH(5 wins towards grand) HEARNS BLUE MAYBLE
————GRNITECH GOODSONS ROWDY BOCEPHUS
——GRNITECH IN YOUR FACE KATE
————GRNITECH SHELTON’S COTTON OXY

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Reuben
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If she is a decent gyp I would breed her to big country...I would be excited about the potential...

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Traye Hearn
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She can hold her on or I wouldn’t even consider breeding her. I’ve bred good dogs in the past but never any line breeding and wasn’t sure how close you can get before it’s to close.

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Dave Richards
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It should be an excellent cross with that pedigree, but any breeding is a hit or miss deal. Dave

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yadkintar
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Just had the super stakes he has pups old enough to be there. ............. all walker dogs won it.




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Reuben
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Originally posted by yadkintar
Just had the super stakes he has pups old enough to be there. ............. all walker dogs won it.




Tar



Let’s look at the big picture...

First...I see your statement as insinuating that big country isn’t producing...and yes it could be true...

But let’s take a look at the super stakes...you said all were walkers that won it...

And some of big country pups were old enough to compete...apparently none of his pups won...

So to make it fair...how many Walker pups were available to compete? In other words how many pups in the surrounding area that were hunted had potential? Competition hunters won’t enter a pup unless they think they have a good pup or a pup that has a chance to win at some point in time...and that number could be pretty high...

How many pups from big country had the same opportunity?

If we knew those numbers we would be able to put a percentage on big country and the walkers pups...chances are it wouldn’t be a fair comparison...

I know I have read many comments on here about what an awesome dog big country is...it seems he is a crossbred hound Bluetick x Walker if I remember correctly...

I think because his pedigree is considered to be an open pedigree it makes sense that he should be bred to his daughter especially if she is a good one as already mentioned...the chances are pretty good to get some exceptional pups from this cross...if I have my information wrong I sincerely apologize...

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DMG_3
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Registered: Mar 2009
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Didn’t see tar there with anything either.
Recon his opinion on cross means nobody needs to breed to BC. I’ve never got to hunt with BC, but respect a lot of the folks that have and what they have said,, I wouldn’t mind trying one from him. The cross your thinking on making, in my opinion,, would be nice one to try. But,, I only been around sport about 30 years,, don’t have nowhere near experience that the great Tar has.

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