Redneck Mafia
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quote: Originally posted by Rocketman55
Mr. Ayers, I must not have been clear enough on my explanation and for that I apologize but it seems as if You missed my point. You said you didn't believe this rule change would effect or give the silent dog an undue advantage. Let me try once again to explain to you what is NOW going to happen with NONE to little recourse.
Lets say your hunting a tight/silent dog and I'm hunting a dog that opens on scent just as soon as it smells it. You have a buddy that has drawn to your cast and I have a buddy drawn to that same cast.
My dog opens within 20 feet of where we cut, your buddy speaks up and says "I think that dog is babbling" I say NO it is not. With this new rule change, all you have to do is agree with your buddy and it doesn't matter what the rest of the cast thinks, I am NOT getting my strike point credited. So now my dog opens again, I cannot strike it for fear of you and your buddy doing the very same thing you just did. Now your dog opens a little farther in and immediately comes treed, Now you get the 100 strike NOT ME, and 125 tree points. You are now legally allowed to cheat me out of my strike points and it only takes one other person to agree with you to do that. Now I'm not even YET talking about misusing a dog for babbling, what I am referring to is simply not awarding strike points to a dog when the opportunity arises.
Now do you see how easily this rule CAN and WILL be abused.
Now for Your situation Mr. Cummings, I know it has always been the rule to minus a dog for babbling but that maneuver takes a MAJORITY to accomplish. I can now ignore your strike position by simply having a 2/2 vote. I no longer need a majority. Now your right in that I cannot really burn you with a 2/2 vote by misusing you but I can do the next best thing and IGNORE your strike points and gain an advantage by simply agreeing with one other person that the dog babbled. Thus I didn't have to minus you to cheat you I simply now have the ability to not award you strike points when I am behind going into the last drop.
And some folks think this will help bring back hunters that were once beaten by a babbling dog. Well it will certainly help to eliminate the dog that opens on track before it trees.
Way to think that one through before implementing!!
No under current rules it takes a majority to overturn the judges call of a dog babbling. His vote counts for essentially a vote and a half now he is just a vote much like the scoring of trees, no more weight than anyone else unless he is a non-hunting judge
Before if the judge said a dog is babbling all that had to agree is one cast member if you called for a vote and the dog would be minused. New rule if you ask for a vote and one cast member agrees with the judge it will be deleted points, it will take the majority to minus if you ask for a vote disagreeing that a dog was babbling. With the new rule it will be easier for a cast to get dtrike points deleted but more difficult to actually minus a dog than before.
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