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bk1977
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What determines the time of night coon stir?

Im sure this has been discussed over and over. I have been hunting a lot recently, over the last month Ive seen it gradually get later. Im told by friends with buckets out, 3am is the major traffic time here in central WV. I have paid close attention at times, thought I had it figured out, only to discover that my research lacked staying power. Are these patterns regional, controlled by the moon, temperature, seasonal ? I have seen it change gradually, also seen it change quickly. Looking for not only how, but why? Thanks for your input in advance?

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Get ready to hear 100 theories..... and here's one

You're on the right track as far as the "prime time" gradually shifting nightly IMO. Around these parts the moon seems to be the biggest factor most of the year. It's rise and set times gradually shift every night and the phase is continually changing.

There are times like when they are feeding heavy in fall or feeding and tending to young that the moon goes out the window but most of the time it seems the coon set their watches by the moon.

I also believe a guy can tree just as many coon during the day as at night in the summer around here.

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Everyday has two major and two minor feed times. When the moon is straight up and straight down that is the major times and when it is just rising and just going down. That is the minor times. Changes about an hour everyday. Throw in weather fronts moving in because the animals can feel the barametric changes. Weather has a big affect on movement.
Your Garmin GPS Handhelds have feed times on them and they are pretty accurate.

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Why couldn't it be something as simple as they feed when they get hungry... plenty of food get a little longer nap!.... but maybe that's not scientific enough...lol

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When they want to move. I have tried to keep track of a ton of factors, such as moon phase, humidity, temperature, barometric pressure,and I have never seen one correlation. In addition, what I think it should be a great night, it actually usually isn't a good night.

Hence, the answer, when they want to move.

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I believe if you hunt the same woods often at the same time, they will change their patterns to avoid you. Overall, I don't believe anybody can ever figure out when they move best. You can go out on what seems like a perfect night and not find squat or a seemingly terrible night and find them everywhere. An old timer once told me there is a coon ready to be treed out there somewhere at any time, you just have to find him, so go whenever you can.

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Get ya a hound with a lot of Nailor in it. Itíll be so loud the coon will have to stir.

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I sure don't have many answers on this subject but I do believe barometric pressure plays a big role.

It has been my experience that any time I'm traveling to go hunting and 1 hour before dark I see deer standing in every other field I drive past, coon are gonna be moving real well on those same nights. Not sure what causes it, but I do know that when I see deer moving all over the place just before dark, that coon are gonna be moving all over the place just after dark.

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I knew a man that hunted deer at night. He had about 20 cows. When he went out if the cows were lying down he went back inside. If the were walking around feeding he went hunting. And why is it on some nights you hear owls everywhere and some nights you don't hear any?

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Barometric pressure

I've noticed that if the pressure drops below 30.00 inches it just seems like the dogs can't smell. I'm not a weather man either but I can only guess the air gets so heavy the scent gets affected some way but I dont know.

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Around here it's about to get so hot that they'll come down in early evening and go to water. Especially sows with kittens. I always figured the heat got them out of their dens. Seems like they'll stir again at some point in the wee hours.

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Around here it's about to get so hot that they'll come down in early evening and go to water. Especially sows with kittens. I always figured the heat got them out of their dens. Seems like they'll stir again at some point in the wee hours.


That's way it is around here every year. Tree em right at dark this time of year if you can stand heat. Then be moving good again in early morning hours. Same every year at this time. Just wish they was as easy figure out rest of year.

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good stuff

I agree with about all of this, I saw two coons this evening about 8pm looking for deer, figured them thirsty. They are also moving here 4am or so. I too believe the barometer has a lot to do with it, have found the same issues tracking below 30. I have not paid much attention to the feeding times on the garmin, but will start tomorrow. I have never tried hunting them in the day time, but I would try it. My great Uncle said he always hunted in the daytime when it was blistering cold with good results. As I said,I have tried to keep track of everything at times, cant just get my finger on it. thanks again for the info

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Off hand I'd say the coon determine when they feed; I have seen them at all hours of the day moving, but that doesn't mean they are moving in your hunting spots. I do know that if I'm packing a descent hound, if I'll keep dumping him we will eventually tree some coon.

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I hunted this one woods at dark and never got a bark,turned back loose in there 5 hours later a treed 4 in one tree 20 feet in the woods,the woods I guide cast in I wont turn a dog in for a month and you will see a difference on the scores most of the time and coon seen.

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As usual, I am with Bruce. I have studied solunar tables and how it affects calling success since the early '90s. It sure is a lot easier to call a critter when he is up hunting for food than one resting. Same is true when hunting my hounds, like to hunt when they are up feeding or right after an active time.
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