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Is the breed of coonhound or the trainer/handler more important?

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Trainer/handler, by far.

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In answering your question it is the handler/trainer...

But to have the absolute best hunting dog possible then we have to
say that same handler with a young dog with all the right tools and the dog to have good social skills as well...

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Without a good trainer, the best bred pup won't succeed..

Without a good bred pup the best trainer won't succeed.

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does this mean it has to be a walker

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Could it be the off breeds simply need better trainers with a desire to win in competition hunts?
The reason I ask is because I have hunted and trained walkers and other breeds as well and the biggest difference I see is the people hunting them not the breeds.
Matter a fact not any single breed has a trait that can't be found within the breed.

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The top 10 percent of comp. hunters a hunting a dog that can compete on the national level it's takes both and being able to regonize and putting the time in has alot to do with it . I could get in one of Dale Earnhardt's cars and could not win anything and Mr. earnhart could hunt one of my common average dogs and never win anything it takes both . Very few hunters have the time and money and also good enough hunting to compete at the national level consistently

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I have seen and owned "naturals". Hounds that the only thing you needed teach them was their names. Not so much with handlers.

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Trainer & handler are usually 2 different things..

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Not really historical speaking it was Breeder trainer handler .. 99 percent of the time it was the same person then came inflation down hill from there ...

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I'm not new to the game I'm 43 years old and have English dogs all my life from been in registered and non registered .. I agree with you too a point butt the fact is at the end of the day all these people think they are untitled too a title hound and it's just not reality....... THAT'S WHY YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE BEST HOUND IN THE NATION.... ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE IT DON'T MEEN **** TOO THE NEXT GUY

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Man made winners have succeeded for a long time .... fortunately in the rite hands they'll be found out as "counterfeits"....once sold.

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Man made winners have succeeded for a long time .... fortunately in the rite hands they'll be found out as "counterfeits"....once sold.

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I would say the correct training is the answer. How many people remember when hides put Christmas presents under the tree and saw people who could train a mutt to tree coon ????

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yep...and that is another reason why there are so many culls...people line up to buy the pups from these titled sires and dams...

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Is the breed of coonhound or the trainer/handler more important?

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Historical BREEDER TRAINER HANDLER WAS ALL DONE BY ONE PERSON THEN CAME INFLAMMATION AND EVERYBODY HAD TOO BE GRANDNITE .....

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A very rich man set out to prove that winning at the dog track is
all about training and handling...so he hires the best and most winningest trainer/handler to train the fastest basset hound he could find with the best breeding...the trainer feeds this basset hound the best feed and trainers this dog to the best of his ability...so how many races could this dog possibly win against the greyhounds?

The right pup with a great pedigree with a great trainer and you will see a great hunting dog one day...

Many mutts and cross breeds can make good dogs but I would rather buy one from proven bloodlines and improve my chances of getting a pup that has the potential to be a great dog one day...

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