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stew
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General question

I have been hunting squirrel dogs about 22 years. I have had some good ones but most needed culling. Why not try a 1/2 coonhound and half something else say lab, heeler etc. give me the pros and cons of this for a squirrel dog.

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ONE OF THE BEST TREE DOGS I EVER HEARD WAS SOME KIND OF SHEPPARD. HE WOULD BRING AT LEAST 5 GRAND IN TODAYS MARKET. IVE CONSIDERED ADOPTING A YOUNG DOG N GIVING IT A GO. GOOD LUCK FINDING ONE!

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MIKE CARDER
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Mixing

Half of these breeds are messed up anyways. I think if we start using other breeds itíll just get worse but that is my own opinion

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stew
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Iím not saying Iím going to breed like this Iím looking for accidental breeding etc

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kylej15
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I'm fixing to give this a try on cats I'm going to pick a couple a really good looking hounds that are walker x pointer.

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stew
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I just believe I stand a good of chance getting a squirrel dog by getting a mix than I do buying cur or feist pup that is so line and in breed that its sense and ability is breed out not enhanced.

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Funny that you post this, I picked up a pair of super nice half cur, half black and tan pups today that I hope make top squirrel dogs.

With coonhounds, I'm of the opinion that a man can go find just about any combination of traits he desires within a particular breed if he'll do his homework. Want a big mouth? Need something with a ton of hunt? Prefer an open trailer or something tight on the ground? You can find lines or strains that accommodate those preferences with just a little studying and a few phone calls.

The pups I picked up today are out of a cur with outstanding handle, that's as good a treedog as there is. There mother is from a line of hounds that have a ton of go, and are big mouthed treedogs as well. I'm hoping for a dog out of this cross with more sense and handle than most hounds, and a tad more nose and hunt than most curs.

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I believe you will have as good or better luck turning them into a squirrel dog as would anything else.

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Funny that you post this, I picked up a pair of super nice half cur, half black and tan pups today that I hope make top squirrel dogs.

With coonhounds, I'm of the opinion that a man can go find just about any combination of traits he desires within a particular breed if he'll do his homework. Want a big mouth? Need something with a ton of hunt? Prefer an open trailer or something tight on the ground? You can find lines or strains that accommodate those preferences with just a little studying and a few phone calls.

The pups I picked up today are out of a cur with outstanding handle, that's as good a treedog as there is. There mother is from a line of hounds that have a ton of go, and are big mouthed treedogs as well. I'm hoping for a dog out of this cross with more sense and handle than most hounds, and a tad more nose and hunt than most curs.



That pair is real purdy too. 😀

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I think it was back in 2004 at the PKC World Squirrel Hunt in Ill. They had some of the Best Curs in the world their, State champions, Big Money winners, State leaders and all, A full blooded hound came from the bottom up and got in the final cast and Won it all. I think that hound treed 10 squirrels. Now I would like to ask these Cur guys how that could have happened, when they say a hound wouldn't stand a chance against a Cur? If the Curs are so good why don't they win a truck with them against the hounds? JMO Something to think about.....

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I think it was back in 2004 at the PKC World Squirrel Hunt in Ill. They had some of the Best Curs in the world their, State champions, Big Money winners, State leaders and all, A full blooded hound came from the bottom up and got in the final cast and Won it all. I think that hound treed 10 squirrels. Now I would like to ask these Cur guys how that could have happened, when they say a hound wouldn't stand a chance against a Cur? If the Curs are so good why don't they win a truck with them against the hounds? JMO Something to think about.....


Squirrel comp hunt rules strongly favor a "hound type dog". So much so that several KCs won't let them hunt including UKC. I hunt all kinds of dogs and like both.
As far as hunting curs against hounds on coon , the majority of curs are silent trailers and closer hunting dogs. I've seen a few curs ( and farm mutts ) that would hold their own with any dog if you eliminated the strike points. Apples and oranges.
I don't know who "they " are but saying any breed of tree dog in a tree dog competition couldn't win would be foolish even if it was a bluetick. 😂

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