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Should a dog be seen in the act of running off game?
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No, keep current rule where that call is made on good judgement. 25 37.88%
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Allen / UKC
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Proposal 11 - Running, Treeing, or Molesting Off Game.

11. Running, Treeing, or Molesting Off Game.

• Change rules to state dogs must be SEEN running, treeing, or molesting off game.





2019 UKC RULE PROPOSAL CLARIFICATIONS AND NOTES
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PROPOSAL 11: Current rules do not require a visual of off game for minus to be awarded. Sentence adds the word seen. *A coon must be seen to be plus points to be awarded. This change requires the off game to be seen for minus points to be awarded. This is change will prevent the unscrupulous cast members or Non-Hunting Judges from awarding minus points without visual verification.

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Dog A is opening on a track, cast hears a little scuffle, it is obvious dog caught something on the ground, dog shuts up and moves on, time gets him, minus. Dog B trees and dog A strikes back in and covers, as cast is going to the tree you came across a fresh killed skunk. When cast arrive at the tree dog A reeks of skunk odor.

You didn't see it, so was dog A molesting off game?

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Dog A is opening on a track, cast hears a little scuffle, it is obvious dog caught something on the ground, dog shuts up and moves on, time gets him, minus. Dog B trees and dog A strikes back in and covers, as cast is going to the tree you came across a fresh killed skunk. When cast arrive at the tree dog A reeks of skunk odor.

You didn't see it, so was dog A molesting off game?



Handler would say his dog was running a coon and ran smack dab into a skunk. Messed his dog up so bad it couldn’t tree the coon it was running.

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Heck just plus the possums and move on.

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So dogs open then bay then cast agrees that the dogs are in a hole so they proceed in to the dogs sure enough it a hole, but the dogs have a mouth full of porky quills--cast didn't see the porky so they can't minus the dogs--what a joke==lol

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