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Looking for a lot of information of the original Looper dog. I believe it was House Lipper something or along those lines.

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Never heard of him

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He dominated the breed about 30 years ago

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Was this Lipper dog you are asking about, was he a Cross Bred ?
I have searched & Searched and can't seem to find anything about him....😋😁
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No sir, he was a walker dog. Only reason I'm posting about it and asking is because I couldn't find anything on here either. I promise you boys I'm not blowing smoke. I have very good resources and am wanting to know more about him.

Shane

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Just click on that little search button in the top right hand corner and type in Lipper. You will find plenty to read.

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I think Lipper's reproduction was 7.5 percent. When you look at this, if he was 10% that means 1 pup out of every 10 puppy's had a title, but he was less then this. He had to have about 13 or 14 pups to produce 1 champion. When Lipper was being bred to a lot the good crosses would have more then one champion in them like 6 or 8 or lets say 10, when this happened there is 127 pups based on 7 pups a litter or the next 17 or 18 litters were duds based on 7.5 reproduction. Now when you put Lipper up against Stylish Clover (Whitey), Skuna River Bark, Skuna River Fred or River Bend Flag. and look at their reproduction based on UKCs PAD, (PUPS AND DEGREES) these dogs only had around 1000 pups each, when Lipper had over 5000 pups. You need to take Whitey, Bark, Fred and Flags champions X 5 and see who are the top reproducers. Then you look at PKC back in that time when Lipper was so called big, and you don't see them on the all-time money winner list, there is a reason for that.. Just something to think about........

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blah blah blah who cares

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I didn't think you would understand that...

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The last litter sired by Lipper sold for $5000 a piece, the only problem was there was only 7 pups, If you base your breeding on titled percentages you will waste many many many nites looking at a dog bark at an empty tree!

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I have Lippers grand pups, money can't buy
You can bet your a-- on that.......

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What he did help Produce were Hounds with :
BIG Mouths
Big Hunting Hounds
Endless Drive
One Man type of Hounds
Some were Bawl/Screaming Tree Dogs
Some were a little trashy until they started treeing Coon

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The last litter sired by Lipper sold for $5000 a piece, the only problem was there was only 7 pups, If you base your breeding on titled percentages you will waste many many many nites looking at a dog bark at an empty tree!

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Most of us that have been around have tried them all(different strains) threw the years, no hounds have ever left a mark on me like Lipper hounds, when you get the right lipper blood, (yes there is good and bad in all) most of the rest will seem boring

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It's easy to breed for looks, but when your breeding for what is inside the dogs head the part you can't see, its different......

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Ooh Ok! Thanks.

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Everyone thinks they have top notch dogs, but you never answered my questions, YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.... will they hunt with 3 Sum, Bill, Milt Down, Jane, Thrill, Jake, or a dozen other dogs that didn't come off that blood line! That is a little hard for me to believe. They don't have to be big and bold and loud and pretty, and blanket backed, they have to have the coon! HeHeHeHeHe!!

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Ooh Ok! Thanks.

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What he did help Produce were Hounds with :
BIG Mouths
Big Hunting Hounds
Endless Drive
One Man type of Hounds
Some were Bawl/Screaming Tree Dogs
Some were a little trashy until they started treeing Coon

Tim

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House's Lipper Hope x Kentucky River Rowdy
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At least some people know of him lol, I was just wanting information on him due to the fact that the man who thought me to coon hunt has a Lipper pup that is 8 weeks old now. I'm a Blue man myself lol

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Everyone thinks they have top notch dogs, but you never answered my questions, YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.... will they hunt with 3 Sum, Bill, Milt Down, Jane, Thrill, Jake, or a dozen other dogs that didn't come off that blood line! That is a little hard for me to believe. They don't have to be big and bold and loud and pretty, and blanket backed, they have to have the coon! HeHeHeHeHe!!

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Wow you sure own a lot of dogs and I’m sure there better than my ol pot lickers but load a few of them up an come on over anytime.

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Wow that’s awesome, I would never belittle you or your $100,000 dogs, with that much success why do you fill the need to belittle a dog that’s been dead 30 years and is still the most talked about dog today? Why are you so concerned how other people spend There money? Post your given name and we will talk, Have a good day sir.

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GrNtChGrCh Tj's Stylish Lipper (SEMEN)
GrNtCh Nite Life Pay Dirt (SEMEN)
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I know Lipper had over 5000 pups, but lets just use 1000 pups to take a look at this 7.5 % of reproduction that was calculated by UKCs PUPS AND DEGREES (PAD) that is in the back of the Coonhound Bloodlines Magazine. ( 7.5% of 1000 pups is 75 dogs with titles) 1000 pups minus 75 pups equals 925 pups that are not titled? At 7 pups per litter average the titled ones came out of 7 and half litters. The 925 pups that are left divided by 7 pups per litter is 132 litters with No titled dogs in them, this is with some of the top females in the country being bred to him. Now when you bred a female with frozen semen that is not a proven cross and no way could be because the proven females would be deceased , what would be the odds of getting a winner out of a dog like that? I'm just using the facts that are given to us by UKCs PAD. With 5000 pups that would be 75 titled dogs in every 1000 pups or 375 titled dogs in 5000 pups. 53 litters had titled dogs and 660 litters did not. You can look at it anyway you want but 7.5% reproduction equals the above...

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