Registered: Oct 2013
Location: Jackson KY,
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Nice words Touch Stone, very true, It does limit the gene pool mainly to dogs that are currently litter registered in the registry. I know I've seen and owned some really nice dogs that weren't litter registered. Including several stud dogs that were owned by gun hunters that have no interest in field trials. this new rule restricts me from breeding to what I want to.

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Location: Michigan
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http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/News...3122014111611AM

I think some are missing the fact that litters out of non-UKC registered sires may in fact be litter registered? That said, a litter sired by an AKC dog could in fact be litter registered.

I, unofficially, made that announcement last year at the World Hunt and advised that it was coming. It was officially announced in March of this year.

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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: NE OHIO
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The registries that are acknowledged for Proof of Registration for the Sire are: · American Kennel Club
· Field Dog Stud Book
· North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association (NAVHDA)
· FCI
· Canadian Kennel Club
· The Kennel Club

The only beagles included are those from the American Kennel Club, The Kennel Club(England), and The Canadian Kennel club.

Still eliminates pups sired by many great stud dogs and all pups from females not registered with UKC. Many newcomers will likely not have a UKC litter registered dog!

This only provides for a few more pups to be eligible by allowing for some added litter registrations. Many great dogs and many new folks will still be placed outside of this limited program within an open registry. This has no value when the goal is to develop "the best dogs in the world..."

It would be beneficial to see a program that is well thought out with respect to rewarding and showcasing the BEST UKC registered rabbit dogs, bringing in the best genetics, and retaining and bringing in new breeders to help with the endeavor of breeding excellent beagles. The new program fails in all 3 areas. No long term upside for UKC.

When a litter registered dog leading the program is consistently being beaten by a single registered dog won't the program integrity be destroyed? Who will actually chase a program that rewards the best of only a select portion of the registry? Out of curiosity what percentage of the registry is being eliminated from the new program? How many ukc beagles are currently single registered and how many are litter registered?

If the only upside is the assumed financial gain through the registrations department then why not revamp and charge more for single registrations. Example: by age... up to 6 months $20, 6mo to 1 yr $25, 1yr to 2yr $30, over 2 yrs old $35.

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I see both sides of this, but unfortunately my situation is a bad one , I purchased a dog from branko's kennel in regards to get him run up good and run points . I purchased him two months prior to the announcement. I personally am not thrilled at this idea. In all reality I'm out A LOT of money. But on the flip side if he turns out, I've got a sire that is capable of litter registering. At the same time if I bought a female, it sounds I would be SOL. I just don't find it fair that this format has had so many dogs come in and do well in this registry that were not litter registered and now they have turned the other cheak

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Location: Carey, Ohio
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Well said.

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I also understand ukc's side and also the hunters side. My last litter couldn't be litter registered due to one owner of the sire being barred. The pups we bred prior to being barred but born after being barred so not much I can do nor is it the pups fault. Like anything I feel the owner should be able to pay a extra fee like anything else in life and be eligible for all star events. Ukc is getting the extra money an the owner can run the all star challenge. Seems fair what do u think?

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Registered: Oct 2013
Location: Jackson KY,
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Yeah, that's an idea. I'd pay a little extra to make my dog eligible for all-star points; isn't that what this rule is about anyway? It would kill two birds with one stone!

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Registered: Oct 2013
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I've herd that there's at least 20 dogs In the all-star race that will be booted out next year because of being single registered. I think that was just the dog that they new of. And that's $40 a weekend. and if it cost $15 more to make them eligible to run all-star that would be at least $300 UKC would make, and I'd bet that all these dogs would be involved in a litter registration in the near future if UKC would agree to it.

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