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Had couple of guys I work with show up last night to go along for a hunt. We had nearly an inch of rain and there was actually mud. The woods were soaked and I knew tracking conditions would be ideal. I also had a suspicion that since Jazz had been having to work her tail off in the dry dirt that the rain may cause a sensory overload. I saw some of both.

I cut Jazz into a flat hardwoods and she struck right away. She took the track to the north east about 75 yards and it was HOT!!! She slammed on the brakes and shut up. Next bark would be dying locate, or so I thought. Instead I watched her on the garmin as she started back. My initial though was that she just bumped a deer considering the way she was screaming out of there and she checked herself. This would have been a first. She came all the way back to where she struck went a few yards past and located big and settled into a chop. Back track? I walked 50 yards to her and found a coon. Sensory overload for sure. She was so excited about smelling that much scent that she lost her mind. Lol.
I pulled her off the tree and sent her on in the direction that I wanted to go. She hooked around me and went into the wind in the direction she wanted to go. I was more than a little frustrated. We had hundreds of acres of fields and woods in my planned direction. Stupid dog. She opened once about a minute
Later and then located with a dying bawl about 90 yards southwest. I let her tree for several minutes and walked in to her. She was treed on a 20 inch hickory and the coon was sitting on the lowest limb about 30 feet up. Stupid handler. Lol.

Lesson for the night...trust your dog. As handlers we can pick the area to hunt but the dog has the tools to put the game up.
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Glad to hear yaw got some rain. We got a heavy mist, very light sprinkle the other night, barley settled the dust. Now a cool front is moving in and no rain in sight for at least a week. Funny Jazz hooked around you last night, BO did me the same way. Struck on one side little county road and trailed back toward it so I rode down to catch him up. He ducked back in the woods, ran 50yds down the side of road then crossed it before I could get to him. Ended up 900yds away treed. Pups are looking good and have started blending food up with milk and letting them lap on it. Three weeks old tomorrow. Already have the UKC Papers in hand, PKC should be in any day. Really looking forward to meeting you and getting to hunt a couple nights. Be talking to you soon, Take Care and Good Hunting!

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Took Jazz out for quick one just to keep the gears lubed. We will head out for the road trip either tomorrow or Saturday. Had planned to hit the Fall Round Up but decided not to hunt her and make the inaugural event at Salem IL. Due to her age and inexperience I just thought 3 days on the road would have her too worn down for Saturday night.

We hunted from the house and I pointed her towards the ponder the east. In typical Jazz fashion she had her own plans and when I unsnapped her she went behind me and b lined to the creek due east. She hit the creek and headed north. In a flash she was struck at 300+ on a good track. She was scorching it back to the southwest away from the creek.
Jazz took the track up a dry branch 200 yards and located. She rolled it into a hard chop. If that locate and chop can't motivate a houndsman its time to sell out.
I got to the tree and found her treed on an eight inch hackberry that went up into a 30 inch black walnut. These trees nearly touched at the bottom. It was a tough spot to shine with the canopy. I hit the Bad Man squaller lightly and couldn't find it without seeing anything. I opened up with hard squalling and found two eyes 2/3 up in a crotch. Another coon for towards the total.
There wasn't much to complain about on this track and tree. I was little worried after last nights hunt. Jazz acted a little burned out last night. Tonight was short and fun with a lot of praise and a confidence builder.
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Thanks for the video of Bo treed. I can't get enough of hearing him pouring the coal to it. Bring me a pup just like him. Big brain, big motor, big mouth and looks to spare. Life is too short to hunt ugly junk.

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I put 1100 miles on the truck and Jazz from Friday morning and rolled in this morning at 4 am.
Friday morning we loaded up an headed to West Plains for the Roundup. I got to meet Mr Jack Smith. What a treat that was. We had never met but the this message board and all the writing back and forth made it like meeting an old friend. Mr Jack is like a walking Blueticks encyclopedia and he shares the knowledge like your kin. He introduced me to several Bluetick folks that are shaping the future of the breed like Gary Utchman and Troy Sheffield. I am going to spend more time at this hunt next year.
I chose not to hunt Jazz in hunt in West Plains. I decided to save her debut for Salem IL and the Baby Stakes on the way back.
Baby Stakes:
A friend of mine told me that now that I am hunting a blue dog I needed to realize that blue dogs never get beat. They just get cheated by Walker dogs. Lol!
Well I would be lying if I said I got cheated and pretty dumb too, since I was carrying the card! There is a lot to tell about this hunt. But the short version is the cast winner scored 150+ and Jazz scored 150 circle. This was a 1 hour cast. I drew a walker male, a local dog, and an English male from northern Georgia.
The guide put us in an area that was big enough for the dogs to spread out and we hunted the entire hour there. It was big woods with fingers, creeks and crop fields. I couldn't have picked a better place.
The initial cut was in a tight spot down a ditch that went on into big woods to the north. The dogs got split up right off the bat. The English dog got struck in north west after a couple minutes. Jazz struck at 179 yards to the east and the walker male struck south of us less that a hundred yards. The English dog was working to the east and Jazz was pushing east and located. It was windy and I was playing defense thinking that the pups I drew would not go an hour without drawing minus so I was in no hurry to tree and Didn't want to pull the trigger on Jazz and take a minus for her leaving. By the third locate the English dog had covered 250 yards and located and the handler put him on the card. Before second tree closed I treed Jazz. While we were walking in the Walker located and treed 100 yards to the south. The trees were split by 200 yards. I had the Walker man split off and handle his dog and we walked in to our tree. The tree was right on the edge of a gas line cut that was bush hogged. We were treed on a 20 inch pin oak that was sixty feet tall. We could see the tree well. We started the Shine time and the wind was whipping the top limb of the tree. I hit the squaller and the coon looked at me. He never looked again in eight minutes. We had to circle the tree.
We walked to the Walker and he was treed on a thirty inch poplar in a tight spot with a lot of smaller trees. We started the watch and within 2 minutes the guide found his coon through a ridiculous little break in the canopy. I saw the coon and we plussed it up. We had 39 minutes to hunt.
All dogs were recast and strike was open. We cut the dogs up a ditch to the north. The guide was hoping to get us in the bigger timber. Within 3 minutes the English dog struck again. Jazz opened three times and I was on the card for 75. The Walker dog was not far but not opening. The track they were working was more than likely the same track the English dog left to cover Jazz and it was not a good track. Jazz was not opening good. After 10 minutes of Grubiing up the creek, Jazz located but I could tell she didn't like it. That didn't matter to the English dog and he sold out on it. The handler treed him and I started the watch. Jazz was still trying to make up her min when second tree closed. Jazz didn't like it and third tree closed and she was tracking again to the north trying to move it out. The English dog decided he wasn't committed and left 100- . The Walker struck in the same area for 50. There was 14 minutes left to hunt.
The Walker was now locating but the handler was no rookie. He was not going to tree unless he had to. I put the six on the Walker. He didn't sound right but wasn't moving. The English dog came back on and of course he was called treed again. Jazz was still trying to head north with the track. The English dog took the pressure off of the Walker. He was treed for 50 after second tree closed. Jazz still would not honor them but she couldn't move it out either. The dogs were treed about 125 to the west. When the cloak got down to 1.5 minutes left we walked in to them. on the way in but not close to the tree we walked up on Jazz unintentionally in a ditch. When she saw us she came to me and I took a minus. There were 2 minutes left and I just leashed her.
We walked to the tree and it wan other big ash. It was circled. Time was up and that was that.
The positives: good cast, got beat fair and square, good sportsmanship, and good dog work.
The negatives: the Walker dog didn't draw any minus! I had expected Jazz to operate like the walker. Jazz had plenty of opportunity to get it done and came up short.

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Chris I know how it goes sometimes and that's just the bad breaks when you get the coon treed and he glances one time but never again for all to see. Sounds like Jazz and the Walker were the coon dogs last night but the break didn't go her way. No fault of hers, she did her job in a strange place with strange hounds after being hauled a Long ways and with the wind howling. For a pup, She did Great! Most folks can still count on one hand how many coon their 11 month old pup has treed, much less have one that is competing at that age and that really has a great chance of winning it. Stay Calm and Carry On, her time is coming.

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Some guys I work with and I headed over to Hoosier National Forest for an overnight pack in trip. The plan was to do a staff retreat out in the woods away from distractions, phones, computers etc. there were four of us and we know a spot about half mile from the road in an awesome valley with a creek and gently rolling hardwood ridges surrounding us. A couple of the guys wanted to squirrel hunt but to me it sounded like an opportunity to hunt a choice peice of Indiana real estate.
I packed my Eberle Stock X1 pack with overnight essentials such as my pack stove, Hennessy hammock sleeping bag, loaded Jazz up and off we went.
The food was great, smoked ribs, cowboy beans, creek bank taters and baked spiced apples. We ate tip we were stuffed around the fire. We enjoyed some homemade wine and I waited for it to get dark. Jazz had made herself comfortable in a leaf nest but when it started to get dark, she was getting restless.

She was already wearing the Garmin and I activated the collar and hand held. We walked 100 yards to the creek and cut her loose. At first she really was a bit confused. She wasn't sure if she was a camp dog or a coon dog. I don't think the food in camp was helping either. I got her refocused and she flew down the creek to the south about 175 yards and struck hard. She scorched the track up a dry branch 267 yards and located and treed. I found her treed on an eight inch persimmon tree that grew up through a cedar. I got lucky and found the coon in the cedar.
I walked her back out on the ridge towards the creek and cut her loose. She went back to the spot she had struck the track. I was irritated and thought she was screwing around. She didn't let out a peep until she located and burned it down. She had only been gone long enough to get to that area. I marched down there not exactly sure what I would find. She was treed on a walnut tree 175 yards south of our camp across a meadow. I shined for a few minutes and could not find the coon in the walnut. I was getting a little aggravated until I stepped up to the sout side and found the coon up in some vines. This was cool deal because the guys could hear the whole thing and they could see the coons eyes glowing in their lights from camp. I pulled Jazz off and walked back to the creek. It was 9:00 but I figure there was no reason to quit since we were staying the night here and Iazz would make me pay on the next drop.
I cut down the dry sand stone creek bed to the south. There was little water in small pockets. After pulling Jazz off two coons Jazz was focused and not worried about camp anymore. She made quick tracks down the creek and struck at 290. She took the track east into the hills. It was not a great track. Jazz was grubbing and I figured this coon came to the creek at dark to get water before heading uphill for acorns and persimmons. Jazz took the track east 370 and started locating. It was apparent she was trying to figure out a lay up. The wind was slight and from the north west. As I watched her she was trying to work the wind and end this track. She picked up the track and pushed north east and repeated this at 535 yards where she locked down and treed.
I had remained on the creek bank the entire time she worked this out. I wanted to let her work this with me out of the way. She was going to have to stick with her choice untold I could get to her, so I was using this as a confidence builder. If she trees and I am alive, I will come.
I found an old road bed, probably from a logging operation of years ago or possibly a homestead road. No matter, it made the walk fairly painless. Jazz was treed on another persimmon and she was zoned out, freeing straight up. I found the coon quickly. I cannot tell you the level of work this dog just did. There have been ups and downs, but right now I was walking on air.
We headed back to camp and sat around the fire for a while. Jazz was tied to a tree near by at the edge of the glow of the fire. She was settling in and the guys told me how they listened to her work up through the hills to that last tree. They said Jazz baritone voice was a surprise from a female. I agreed and sipped some apple spice wine.
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Wish I could have been on that camp out, sounds like a great time. We all need to step away from the everyday life time to time and reconnect with who WE are. Those woods look so nice and open. I haven't seen woods around here that open since the 80's. Jazz did her part and made you proud of the good job she did, perfect camp out trip.

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Chris, I really enjoyed reading this. Write more!

Jazz sounds to be exactly the type hound I enjoy hunting. It's time for me to start another pup since Hoss will be seven next month. I hope I can find one that will work half as good as Jazz is doing at that age.

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Steve,
I'm a little embarrassed that you read it. These get hammered out with my thumbs on my my phone. So, I get auto correct, grammar errors etc etc. Our PC at home gave up the ghost about a year ago and I am too impatient to wait on my work computer with all it s security features to fire up to update a coondog thread. LOL.

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I guess maybe I am obsessive or maybe I suffer from OCD, I don't know. Why else would I keep track of how many trees a pup makes and how many coons are found in those trees? I keep track of a lot of stats when I'm training a young dog such as humidity, wind speeds and directions, moon phases etc. Perhaps it is because I don't want to just say I have purty fast track dog or Ol Brummy is as accurate as any dog out there. I will admit that the recent hot topic of accuracy spurred me on to keep accurate records of trees made/ coons seen. The thought of hunting a dog that is wrong 50 % of the time just does not cut it with me. However, if you want to say different, you better have stats to back it up
Jazz made her 100th tree tonight. I found the coon in the ash tree making her stats 85 coons found in 100 trees made. I am very fortunate to live in a place where we have good coon population and have many good places to hunt. I do live in Indiana but not the coon belt most of you think of such as Autumn Oaks. I live 12 miles from the Ohio River. It can be steep and rough.
While Jazz has a great start on her career, she is not perfect. I hope to bring out a little more hunt in her. She can scorch a track but I have seen her stand on her head a straddle a track. She can be a little slow firing out after a recast. I am telling you this because I have frustrating moments with Jazz too.
I am happy that so many have read my ramblings. I never want this to be a brag page. Coonhounds have been a life long obsession with me. When I started out at 13 years old I memorized pedigrees, stud dog names and ads. I read breed yearbooks and back issues of American Cooner and Full Cry. I thought everyone had a good dog except me. I say all of this to encourage you. If you have hound that goes hunting, trees up trees that have coons in them a large majority of the time, relax. Chances are others are not hunting anything better. The guys hunting the wonder dog if honest would tell you they get frustrated too. There are no perfect dogs.
Thanks for reading. I will close with a video of Jazz on tree 100.

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Hit the woods Saturday night nothing special to report except a training note.
Now that the baby stakes are over I have turned up the intensity a bit. Sometimes leaning on a young dog will cause them to stall out or take step back. I didn't want to risk that prior to competing but now we are moving to a different level.
In the past Jazz has been concistently bad about firing on a recast from a tree that she has been handled on. Tonight we made a tree, walked away and I cut her 100 yards from the tree. She fired but circled and tried to hunt the same area. Let me say this before anybody misunderstands. I am not a dog beater. People that beat on dogs do not understand training. I am not above some highly animated switching where it is loud and aggressive and the dog THINKS it's world is coming apart, but what a dog thinks and what is actually happens are very different. There is no physical harm but what an impact it makes on the psychological level.
Dogs are masters at reading body language. A large part of dog to dog communication is from body language. Watch two strange dogs that meet. There is posturing, cowing, turning the rear end towards each other etc. even they way they carry their head and ears is communicative. A dog can convey several messages without letting out a peep.
When Jazz needs corrected, I walk straight to her. I am displaying that I am not just strolling along, I am coming in with a purpose. In the Marine Corps we used the term "walk with a purpose". That meant there was clear objective and we were going to accomplish it. In dog training, a dog will key on how you move towards them. If they see you walking with a purpose, even the most friendly dog will try to stay out of your reach. I have seen people move in to correct a dog, sweet talking and bending down, only to snatch them up and throttle the dog. While they may say they only wanted to correct the dog, what they really wanted was to work out some frustration physically. If correction was the goal, 9/10 times the message could have been sent and clearly received with posturing and some angry mean talking.
So, how do I apply this? Back to Jazz and let's break this down.
The problem: Jazz is not moving away from the area. She is not returning to trees just not making tracks out of the area. She is trying to hunt her way out of the area. She knows the command DONE. That is what I use when the shining is done and we are leaving a tree.
What I want to see: Upon recast find new real estate. She doesn't have to change zip codes but I don't want her under foot or listen to her nose popping and snorkeling around. Lift the head and get out of here.
The solution: Cut her loose and keep pressure on her to leave. Don't confuse this as walking her over a track. This is done by "moving with a purpose" directly at her. I apply that pressure until she is gone. Once I start this I stay with it until the dog is out of there and out hunting.
Some keys:
1) Be patient. It is tempting to lose your cool and really get your message across by getting physical. Getting physical may make you feel better at that moment but does little teaching other than show your dog that you are the bigger dog.
2) Be stubborn. Don't settle for anything other than the desired result. Once you have committed see it through. This may take 3 minutes or 30. Don't back off the pressure until the dog picks up its head and gets out of the area. Slow and gentle pressure relentlessly applied.
3) Be the bigger brain. When you get the desired results, release the pressure. Stop moving and let the dog hunt. If it stalls out and you feel the dog is spending too much time in an area, lace up your boots and get in there and reapply the pressure until they move out.
Here are the results I got from Jazz and I expect from any dog I am hunting: I went in and applied the pressure. She moved ahead 50 yards and tried to hunt, I applied pressure. She moved out 75 yards, dropped her nose and tried to hunt, I applied pressure. She picked up her head and moved out hunting on the run to 400 yards before swinging around the edge of a partially cut cornfield where she eventually struck a track. At one point she was over 900 yards away. She moved the track out into standing corn and got bogged down. I applied pressure. She got out on the edge, cut the track again and treed it along the edge in a pin oak 630 yards away. Coon spotted. This whole process took 30 to 40 minutes.
This a good start and I will expect to see improvement. I just have to consistent.
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Very interesting read.........
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Thanks for the comments fellas. I am glad you are enjoying the scribbling. I enjoy writing about dog training. This is the first journal I have kept on a pup. It has been fun.

I took Jazz out for a round this evening. As I have written this journal I have tried to not make excuses. Tonight, however, I am going to break that rule. I have been expecting Jazz to come in heat. I had checked her this morning as I do each day and no signs of heat. I made plans to hunt with Ken and when we got out at the first spot his male dog was acting pretty interested in Jazz. I checked her and BAM there it was slight swelling and a bit of bark red discharge. Sometime while I was at work Mother Nature brought the blessing.

Ken and I decided we would load Jazz in the truck and just hunt them one at a time. That didn't work. His dog wanted to hang around the truck. DUH, like that had any chance of working.

Take two: loaded his up and hunted Jazz. She dropped in at 349 and struck a track in some good hardwoods. She took the track north 260 and located a couple of times and just quit. There is a hot fence on the north side so I thought maybe she treed in the fence row and got into the fence. I walked into the place she was treed and she was on the fence row but the fence was not hot. Couldn't use that excuse.

She swung back where she struck worked west a 150 and came back and located where she started...and left that one. She moved back to the northwest and hit another tree. I was close and was not going to let her leave a third time. She sounded good and convincing as we walked in. She was stretched out and sounding good when we arrived. We shined and shined and shined. No coon to be found. I would bet with the leaves off I could have called it a legitimate slick.

Now for the excuses. I have been married for twenty years and have two teenage daughters. Things get pretty strange around here every month. So that s my excuse for Jazz. The hormones are effecting her brain. She looked plain stupid tonight.

On a good note, she will be through her cycle by the time hide season comes in November 8th.

On a bad note I won't have this excuse again for a while.

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Now for the excuses. I have been married for twenty years and have two teenage daughters. Things get pretty strange around here every month. So that s my excuse for Jazz. The hormones are effecting her brain. She looked plain stupid tonight.

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LOL!

Had a very similar hunt ourselves with our Snow gyp around 3 weeks ago. We thought she had plum lost her mind. After we finally got our hands on her, got her up on the tailgate and sure enough, some swelling and some blood. It is mind boggling how drastically those hormones can affect some females performance in the woods!

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I told Beverly over a month ago that Jazz would be near a year old when we made our trip up to hunt with you and that we would be lucky if she wasn't in heat. Oh well, BO won't have Jazz to show him where all the coon are so he will have to stumble up on one by himself. Sure was looking forward to hunting with her but that just gives me an excuse to come back next year.

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Vic, Humble Pie is always good dessert after a big helping of crow.

Steve I still have big plans. We will have a great time. I was thinking that after all the bragging about February weather on the Bogue Chitto, I might need to come down and check it out.

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February would be a great month for you to come south. Coon will be rutting and deer season will be over so the Coon Hunters have the woods to themselves. I'm sure by then you will be tired of the snow and ice up your way and would be ready for a break. We are so looking forward to our trip this week coming to your place. I bet the fall colors are beautiful and the coon should have their guard down since you and Jazz haven't been after them so maybe BO can sneak up on a couple. See you Thursday.

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Stir Crazy. Jazz is still in heat but coming out. I've been putting some miles on her with the 4 wheeler to keep her in shape.

Somebody asked the other day why I put Wild N Blue in her titled name. They wondered if I had asked Mackie Mann for permission to do that. The answer is that I give credit where credit is due. I didn't have anything to do with breeding the dog, she is doubled up on Wild N Blue so I named her Lotsagrit (my kennel name) Wild N Blue Jazz. I never asked for permission, I just thought it was common courtesy to honor the breeders behind the dog. What do you all think?

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Chris, I've never had anyone ask me why I name my dogs what I do, but the reason I still name some of my dogs Smokey River is exactly the same reason that you name Jazz (Wild and Blue). I name some of them Smokey River in honor of Mr. Warren Haslouer. Warren was one of the finest gentlemen I ever met and seemed like the least that I could do since the Ole Smokey River Tramp dog came from Mr. Warren and I did not have anything to do with the breeding on him.

Chris I hope you and Steve have a great time.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: SE indiana
Posts: 941

Sure wish you could have made the trip. We have beautiful weather. Highs in the 50s and lows in the low 40 s to high 30s. The fall colors are hanging on in spite of some heavy rain this week. We will keep you updated.

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Registered: Jan 2015
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Hey man just wanted to say im really enjoying your posts

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