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Originally posted by wildbill
maybe my memory isn't as good as it once was ,but

if it serves me right ,,,

sackett jr. and a few of the other stud dogs didn't make much of an

impact unless they were crossed on lipper females.......

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i wish u nothing but the best mr hopkins im sure they will be great

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i wish u nothing but the best mr hopkins im sure they will be great

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Originally posted by wildbill
maybe my memory isn't as good as it once was ,but

if it serves me right ,,,

sackett jr. and a few of the other stud dogs didn't make much of an

impact unless they were crossed on lipper females.......

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I agree PWC. Lipper produced some great hounds and so did Sackett Jr. The biggest difference that I have seen between the 2 strains is drive and brains.... Most Lipper dogs have NO reverse and are gamey as anything there is. The problem I have seen is that they can be hell to break off of trash. Sackett Jr dogs seem to have a little calmer personalities and more brains to them. They are normally no where near as trashy and can be broke much easier. Not trying to knock either strain. I'd love to have a heavy Lipper bred dog but I'm not man enough to train one.... LOL

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Oh, and I do like the Lipper/Sackett Jr. crosses. The Sackett Jr. tones the Lipper down a little... LOL

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sackett jr did put a lot of brain in his pups his pups was and are some of the greatest dog out there today... i have 6 sackett dog and i enjoy all of them... i have one right out of lipper and a few out of his offspring and lipper blood to me they can be tree happy, i love how they tree but not what they tree....right now i i am hunting a sackett and clover male dog that is a joy to walk be hind........

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Originally posted by wildbill
or was out of lipper blooded males/female them selves...

pull all the studs out of the mags that have lipper blood in them and you will have a very small list of stud dogs...

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For me its not that Lipper produced such a high percentage of complete dogs even though he did produce some outstanding ones. Its the fact that he threw some poweful traits, Mouth, Tracking, Layup, etc. The right cross on him made some powerful dogs. Few dogs however could dominate a litter with some of these desirable traits like he could and influence those traits for generations while allowing you to use them in other crosses to improve a line. My current stud has Lipper 4 times,Houses Chief 15 times, Houses Bawlie 8 times, and Houses Queen 24 times so I quess you could say I am a fan.

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For me its not that Lipper produced such a high percentage of complete dogs even though he did produce some outstanding ones. Its the fact that he threw some poweful traits, Mouth, Tracking, Layup, etc. The right cross on him made some powerful dogs. Few dogs however could dominate a litter with some of these desirable traits like he could and influence those traits for generations while allowing you to use them in other crosses to improve a line. My current stud has Lipper 4 times,Houses Chief 15 times, Houses Bawlie 8 times, and Houses Queen 24 times so I quess you could say I am a fan.

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Well it's Christmas come early at my house. For the first time in a long time, I got to open an envelope and pull a set of PKC papers
showing "HOUSE'S LIPPER" as the sire and War Creek Anna, an exceptional female out of Cowee Creek Clint and a Rock River Frank female as the dam. The pups are 4 mos. old and looking good. Have a great day and GOD bless.

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I sincerely hope that a pup from that cross is Lipper made over. I will either have or will go buy the strongest Finley River bred female from Dan 3 bloodlines to breed to him.

I have nice dogs now. But, I have never had one that I thought would equal the litter Tom Wilbers and I had out of Gr. Ch. Mears' Finley River Trap. They were freaks of nature. That is the only way I know how to describe them. They still haunt my memory.


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Hello Robert... I too have high expectations for this latest litter
of LIPPER pups after saving this semen for so long. I sure can see and hear the LIPPER in them. That would be a once in a lifetime cross. Thanks for the kind words and memories.

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Mrs. Hopkin i do enjoy lipper and what he done i just wish you would bree the semen back to a cover bitch or a flatrock Trasher or coma bitch i under stad you are going to bred to the great insane Jane i dont get what people see in that dog they are not an all around coon dog i meant to said not a all season dog but hell what do i know

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and here we go again, where breeding 9 month old pups are the thing of the future........................GOOOOOOOOOOO LIPPER, just threw up in my mouth a little ,im so over hearing this blow hard

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It ought to be interesting to see what traits show up on the Lipper and Insane Jane cross , and see the differences between them and the Insane group of dogs out of her. When you add the Trackman group in, you might get an idea of the role that she plays in them all !
But if I was wanting to get an all weather type dog, Travis Brown had posted one that would have fit the bill for that, of that I have no doubts. I know what went into the line and still see it on Haley's nephew and granddaughter that I have. The bad thing is you would probably get one that they talk about worse than Lipper !

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Hello Robert... I too have high expectations for this latest litter
of LIPPER pups after saving this semen for so long. I sure can see and hear the LIPPER in them.

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Well from what I've seen both Paul and Tom like their young dogs, and beings that they own them and feed them, I would say they suit them and that's all that matters ! Not all dogs are ready at an early age to be put into the hunts, especially the ones that haven't been hunted in packs. You cast one that has only ran by itself in a 4 dog cast it does mess them up, till they get used to it . They have plenty of time to learn and they will, unlike some that post with all the putdowns, that seem to know it all !

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Not all dogs are ready at an early age to be put into the hunts,

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After the 4th cast last night and still not a plus point. Are you getting a little disappointed in the Litter of Impact?

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Originally posted by Nelson Kirkland
After the 4th cast last night and still not a plus point. Are you getting a little disappointed in the Litter of Impact?

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I find it strangely familiar that a small group of men (word used loosely)would make it their undieing mission to destroy the reputation of a very promising 11 month old pup. The rule of thumb that has Proven true time and time again over the years is If the jealous bashers are after you... Then you must have something that they are afraid of. Be it known that LIPPER'S DR. LAW has what I have bred for and looked for in a coondog for last thirty Years. Good luck guys ... I hope you like crow !

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fellas i aint hunted walker in over 10 yrs and probaly never will again but if i do start back to walkers id find LIPPER blooded hounds
i owned a male and female both direct from lipper the female was straighter but they both were trackdriving treedawgs both ike and bess could crank out bout 100 barks a min on tree

ike and bess were both the best walkers i had bess was the best hound i ever owned i learned alot from her still miss ol BESS

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I find it strangely familiar that a small group of men (word used loosely)would make it their undieing mission to destroy the reputation of a very promising 11 month old pup. The rule of thumb that has Proven true time and time again over the years is If the jealous bashers are after you... Then you must have something that they are afraid of. Be it known that LIPPER'S DR. LAW has what I have bred for and looked for in a coondog for last thirty Years. Good luck guys ... I hope you like crow !

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Speaking for myself, the only issue I have is that the breeding of a pup is questionable simply due to not knowing what he will eventually mature into. Introducing an unknown gene pool into the breeding quotient is far from responsible, especially if one is truly concerned with the breed as a whole. You have a pup that was a result of a breeding that you have no basis to examine it from the perspective of it working or not. Then, before he has even proven what he will turn into, you allow folks to breed to him. An unknown pup from an unknown breeding producing unknown traits. Then you post it for all to see and turn around and cry persecution because someone speaks out against it. Please. These folks are guinea pigs for nothing more than your ego. Jealousy has nothing to do with it. I just hate seeing folks get taken advantage of, but I am sure that in your mind it is their fault as there are many to breed to yet they chose Law. Guide them, don't take advantage of them. I could careless if its Dr. Law off of Lipper or Dr. Suess off of Mickey Mouse. Breeding a yearling is a bad idea.

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