John Wick
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Hi everyone. It's Lisa, the secretary, posting the following for John Wick:
Howdy there Ozark Preacher fans. It's Friday morning, and I just got a chance to look at the latest info on this post. As I've done in the past, I'll scoot through the list and anyone that wants or needs a response about Preacher dogs will get my best short effort. By the way, this thread is nearing 7,000 views. That's incredible! We'd all have to agree that there's much more than casual interest in this subject. Don't forget, I'm also getting many calls and letters from folks across the country pertaining to Preacher breeding. Why do you folks feel there's so much interest???
To David Morgan and the rest of you regarding his post about Texas County Lady: His short story about getting coon hides for Christmas money possibly seems far-fetched to many of you. But I know Dave Morgan and I knew GR NT CH Texas County Lady very well, VERY, VERY well. His story is absolutely true. Why do you think he still has a big, warm spot in his heart for Preacher Dogs?
To Christy: You did it!!! The power of persistence comes through again. Yes! This is a Preacher-colored dog for sure. Christy, I'm very happy to have expanded your horizons and dog knowledge. Now you'll be able to do the same for many other folks. Pretty cool, huh?
To Huntingnick: No sir, most Preacher dogs do not have a white ring, although some do. Most have a broken-up ring or a ring on one side of their neck but not the other. For some reason, Treeing Walkers in general seem to be getting darker colored. This is happening with many of them that have no Preacher in their past. Something about blanket-back to blanket-back to blanket-back definitely seems to be darkening them up. To my knowledge, Preacher-colored dogs haven't been bred to other Preacher-colored dogs in enough generations to see what will happen when that's done, but I suspect we'll be finding out in the next five to ten years.
To GNeal and Nitechamp Bud: That picture startles me. Is this for real? If so, she is the darkest-colored, Preacher-colored dog I've ever seen. I've never seen one where the color went past the ankles. Never seen one with color on its feet. However, her conformation does look kind of familiar. With all that black color, and no white on her neck, it sure does make a dog look much darker. You know, if her head, neck, and legs were tan, she'd look somewhat lighter. I can't get over the dark coloring all the way down on her feet. Let me just go ahead and say something I'm thinking. When they get THIS dark, I'm not sure we should still call them Treeing Walkers. Yes, I may be responsible for promoting this strain and bringing them to the public, but I believe all of us as Preacher fans might have to put a self-imposed limit on the amount of color we want to accept and still have them issued Treeing Walker registration papers. I'm not trying to offend anyone here, but I'm sure there are many people who share this opinion. I'm really curious to find out if this dog is totally legit. If so, I wonder what her littermates look like. I really wonder if she could pass an extensive DNA test or not. You know, sometimes accidents do occur that even conscientious owners don't realize. I'm not saying that happened. I'm saying it's a possibility, particularly if she has several littermates that look like this.
The best thing about this picture is that it looks like a proud father and son are sharing time and experiences together. Because this dog is the cause of that, she's the right color, isn't she? 
P.S. I know that if this dog was born at my house, I wouldn't have registered her. We all need to be conscientious breeders, and we need to always consider the big picture and the best thing for the breed. Well, those statements will probably liven up the discussion some more, huh?
To GNeal regarding her pedigree: If the pedigree is correct, Preacher is back there at least four times, and probably six. But there's a WHOLE bunch of other dogs in there too.
To Trent Poff: If there's any Preacher in that pedigree, I don't know where it's coming from. There are several dogs there that I don't know, but all of them that I do know have no Preacher in them. I'd love to know what's on back further because just one Preacher-colored dog way back in there can keep carrying through, but ONLY as long as the color is still there. I have NEVER seen Preacher-colored dogs come from a litter where at least one parent didn't have the color. I've heard of it, but I've used this blood a lot and have never seen it. Once the Preacher color isn't there to see, I've never seen true Preacher coloring be produced or just sort of pop-up again.
There are quite a few very obviously Preacher-colored dogs around the country whose pedigree has no Preacher anywhere. This has been a sad lesson for me because it plainly shows the extent of paper-switching; and legitimate accidents. The intentional switching is greatly lessening as times goes on, but it still happens and it sure happened a bunch ten years ago, twenty years ago, and much more beyond that.
To Wabashcooner: Thanks for the info. I'll jot it down in my file. I hope Mr. Thomas sends me a letter describing the dog, along with a picture and pedigree. There's no Preacher behind Hard Rock Cafe, so it must be on the momma's side, huh?
To Josh: Yes sir, I agree with you, but there is a chance this is legit. And I do feel we need to respect the Walker standards even though these Preacher-colored dogs have always bothered some people in that respect. I have to admit it bothered me, too, in the beginning. However, so many of them were so good and so pleasurable that it wasn't long and I forgot I actually preferred white and spotted Walkers. As you pointed out, if a bunch of us are going to believe in and promote these dogs, we do have to impose some standards on ourselves. Any breeder of any kind of livestock occasionally has a critter that they know in their heart doesn't completely measure up to breed standards, and, therefore, probably shouldn't have papers. If several of you wanted to work on a project to set some standards, I'd be happy to help.
To Dwils: Thanks for the info you're sharing. The pedigree looks legit, and the dog looks like he matches the pedigree in several ways. Here's another example where Preacher coloring has come through High Style. This dog is going to require me to take a road trip to see him in action, if I'm invited.
To the Iowa Ozark Preacher fan who called Thursday night: Please call again. I have more info.
That's all for now. We'll check back in about a week. Happy Hunting Everyone! John Wick
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