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Most guys I know have hunted all there lives and there all well in there 40s and 50s all of them believe the dogs today are better then what they used to be. Wasn't the old tradition to build a campfire while the dogs worked up a tracked to tree a coon. You couldn't even gather the wood for a campfire most nights in the time it takes for my dog to put one up.

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Originally posted by Fisher13
Most guys I know have hunted all there lives and there all well in there 40s and 50s all of them believe the dogs today are better then what they used to be. Wasn't the old tradition to build a campfire while the dogs worked up a tracked to tree a coon. You couldn't even gather the wood for a campfire most nights in the time it takes for my dog to put one up.

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Ive built fires before. Thin coon and 28000ac. Cut em let them hunt. Track some. Get warm. Go pull around and get em. I saw the other night somebody had built a fire in the 40ac coon pen Im in. I could only imagine what color they had in there

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Don't understand what a good coo dog/competition is. The bottom line is most blue dogs, red, plott, and black dogs are slow out of the gate and if they draw a walker(s) there praying they draw out a slick treeing walker cause that's normally there only chance. And it's PROBALLY a good thing for those folks that so many walker men and women are blinded by pretty set of papers or you would see 75% walker winners and 20% English in your world hunts etc. the sad thing is there's still great balance walkers that have all the chrome and still win and there's several with coo dog pedigree and some with both. But I don't want to start conflict cause I would love to own a great red or blue dog but I just can't find one for me. But we have several nice walkers so I guess I'll just stay with those, except for my red secret lol

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good coondog/comp dog aren't always the same. Im one of em.

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Hey come on idk what you old farts used to do back in the day. :-p All I know is that I haven't had any problems finding good hounds, several in fact. So if some old guy wants to talk to me about some dog he had in the fifties as the best dog he ever owned as a way to justify the lousy performance of the dog he is currently hunting. Complaining about the breeding of these dogs today, on and on.
Figure out what you like, find it, hunt it, and quit making excuses!

Anybody I know that knows what there doing, more often then not they have a coondog at the end of there lead, one way or another. They don't sit around blaming it on breeders making excuses.

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Ive built fires before. Thin coon and 28000ac. Cut em let them hunt. Track some. Get warm. Go pull around and get em. I saw the other night somebody had built a fire in the 40ac coon pen Im in. I could only imagine what color they had in there

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I know a pretty well known coonhunters back in the day with a top top dog by the name of tree pickin bill that the only fire he built was in a den one night down in sc to prove that bill had that coon to !!!!! They said that coon come flying out jumped in a ball of fire!!!!!! Plussem up again!!!!!

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Old fellow that started myself and Randall Coleman coonhuntin back in the early 70,s would build a fire anywhere, he had about 20 black dogs and the old ford truckbed was covered with plyboard,the tailgate was the door.We rode hunted alot and burnt many hollows, My dad never let us burn a tree and only a few places dad would let us strike a match.He said back in his youth ( 1930,s early 40,s) he and my uncle had fought enuff fires.They would intentionally start a fire so the WIP would pay them to fight forest fires.

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Dang Bruce I got offtrack from the start.I think if a man wants to feed it and can tolerate it then have at it.I feel some will make a crossbreed mating hoping to get the desired traits from the off colored dog but at the same time hoping to get the majority with there desired favorite breed color.I have watched and seen some top trainers/dogmen have /hunt different breeds and keep a winner in his kennel....Some may disagree and that's ok, but...In short...some of the breeds shortcomings are directly the fault of the owners/breeders....Sometimes you got to ...GET OFF THE TAILGATE... and build a fire....UNDER THE DOG...Some know how and many don't or wont and it shows

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When ukc first started registering Walkers, the papers you got from them would, say English, (Treeing Walker), in that way. White River King, is in a lot of Walker pedigrees, his mother was a black&tan. Hard Time Spec, was orginaly, a registered Treeing Walker, they single registered, him english. Carolinia Casey's mother, was a single registered female. He only placed in four ACHA World Hunts, winning two of them. There's a long list of dogs, that came from single registered stock, winning the ACHA World Hunt, back whjen it meant something. The truth of the matter, is most all of the tree dogs of today go back to fox hounds, black&tan, redbone, english, walker, lepoard hound, bluetick, excepting the plotts, they were brought over from germany, they had some other crosses of hound bred in to them. The english and walkers came from the blue tick breed, that's the ukc registered, blue ticks, english, walkers. So when you start line breeding all these high powered hounds, keep in mind, the traits, will throw back, 5 and 6 generations, at least, may be more.

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