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Seems to me that money is finite or at least a dollars worth is finite. So when the hospital charge you $5 for a band aid and $10 for a little pack of Kleenex and $750 for an ER visit with flash burn in the eye from welding and it takes one drop of eyedrops to fix it, then I can see the Dems getting mad about folks getting rich off overcharging. BUT , how about the not for profit hospitals? They do the same thing at the same rate. Then some people use the ER that ain't got a plastic bedpan to Mr. Pee in. I recon they been playing Robbing Hoods on their own and the Government is jeoulous of it and want their share of credit which translates to votes to take care of us meek ones. lol. Credit, so they take it over, but they gonna get the same results but they think they can take credit for it. Kind of like when HELP the POOR was the Church Responsibility but the Government got Jealous of the appreciation of the poor to the church. So they wanted that recognition like they were GOD and started to Taxing the Churches out of existence so The government could take the credit . It really is not that hard to understand if you know anything at all about alpha egos and grabbing for undue credit for something ill deserved. Heck, I was a GS 11 and sure went to my share of AWARDS BANQUETS> LOL.

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Originally posted by Joe Wesson
Why is that an ignorant statement ? The Mexican drug cartel was armed under Obama's administration and now he wants to disarm America. If this had been anyone else, they would have already been impeached. Obama needs to stand up for America and defend our Constitution. He took an oath to do so. He is doing the total opposite. He has no respect for our Constitution.
Everything in it is being threatened by him and his agenda.

My opinion on getting America back on the right track is:

1. Cut taxes for corporations and individuals. This will bring jobs back home. High taxes is one of the reasons they left.

2. Cut unnessesary spending such as abuse of entitlements. This alone is approximately 700 to 800 billion dollars a year.

3. Cut unnessesary regulations as this has shut down alot of industry such as coal mining.

4. Start up the pipe line and drill more here. We can be self sufficent and not have to depend on foreign oil.

5. Stop giving foreign aide to countries that are really our enemies.

6. We were founded one nation under God and we need to bring God back into our life and country.

These are just a few of the things that I think we need to get things going again. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO RID THE WHITE HOUSE OF OBAMA AND HIS SOCIALIST AGENDA.

VOTE ROMNEY IN 2012. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

SUPPORT THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT!!!

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The mexican drug cartell was armed wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before then. They were the fastest growning terrorest group or gang over 10 years ago. You make me laugh though. He has done some really stupid stuff. Look it up and quit makeing it up.

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Originally posted by l.lyle
Seems to me that money is finite or at least a dollars worth is finite. So when the hospital charge you $5 for a band aid and $10 for a little pack of Kleenex and $750 for an ER visit with flash burn in the eye from welding and it takes one drop of eyedrops to fix it, then I can see the Dems getting mad about folks getting rich off overcharging. BUT , how about the not for profit hospitals? They do the same thing at the same rate. Then some people use the ER that ain't got a plastic bedpan to Mr. Pee in. I recon they been playing Robbing Hoods on their own and the Government is jeoulous of it and want their share of credit which translates to votes to take care of us meek ones. lol. Credit, so they take it over, but they gonna get the same results but they think they can take credit for it. Kind of like when HELP the POOR was the Church Responsibility but the Government got Jealous of the appreciation of the poor to the church. So they wanted that recognition like they were GOD and started to Taxing the Churches out of existence so The government could take the credit . It really is not that hard to understand if you know anything at all about alpha egos and grabbing for undue credit for something ill deserved. Heck, I was a GS 11 and sure went to my share of AWARDS BANQUETS> LOL.



You have to make the equipment that the hospital has to buy cheeper before you can gripe about what they charge. Has nothing to do with Dems or Rep. that is just a tool they use to split us up.

By the way, you can save your self some money next time you burn your eyes by watching a weldier. Take a carrot shaver and shave a potato. Make enough to pack on the top of both eyes. Lay down shut eyes put shaveings on them. Then cover with rag to hold them there. Take a knap and burn will be gone when you wake up.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Okie Dawg
[B]I am sorry but that is the most ignorant statement I have ever seen. Hate Oboma if you want to but this has been comeing for a long time. He didn't get us into the Iraq war. Witch was the thing that finished breaking us.
As far as wars we haven't been in one since WWII. The rest is police actions or what ever title they want to throw on them. Then to make you feel better they call them a war.
Bush said we would kill the terrorest that killed our people no matter were they went. We went to Afganistan and he let them go into Packistan. Wouldn't do anything about it. We do buisness with them. Corporations would loose money so we back off.
Now we need to kill someone and our oil corporations want to secure there investment in Igaq. So we go over, hire one of our oil corporations to contract feeding and takeing care of our troops and everything else. Then use our tax money to pay them to get control of the country to sure up there oil investment. So they are winning from both ends and our dead soldiers,tax payers and over a million Iraq people we killed pay the bill.
Truth is our military hasn't moved in decades except to cure the greed of american people EXCEPT TO GO TO AFGANISTAN AND THEN WE JUST TURNED OUR BACK ON THAT AND WENT TO IRAQ TO TAKE CARE OF ANOTHER GREEDY AMERICAN CORPORATION THAT WAS AFRAID THEY MAY LOOSE THERE INVESTMENT.
End of Okie Dawgs Quote: sorry, I thought I was at the end when I started responding.

(My response)>Where in the world do you come up with these notions? Where did you get your indoctrination that corporations are the root of it all? I remember 911. I knew it was going to cost lives and money for a remedy as I watched those buildings fall. I said let's go do what we got to do and I am glad America did the justice. How can you twist that into corporate tricksters?

You want your notions that problems began before OBama to protect Obama for what reason, I have no clue. We can trace the blame game all the way back to Cain and Able. But for what purpose? We need to deal with the problems at hand caused by the Trouble Maker in Chief. NEWS FLASH: the Obama Administration announced they were ready to RULE almost 4 years ago. I wish they had been ready to LEAD instead of RULE.



Lyle you need to reread..........I was for going and killing the ones that blew up our buildings.
I WASN'T...........FOR TURNING OUR BACKS ON ALL OF OUR DEAD.......PUTTING THE ONES THAT KILLED THEM ON THE BACK BURNER................WHILE WE GO TO IRAQ AND TRY TO SURE UP INVESTMENTS MADE BY OUR OIL CORPORATIONS.........It is well known by everyone else that there were NO AL-QUEIDA THERE TILL TWO YEARS AFTER WE ARIVED............AND TO THIS DAY NO ONE HAS HAD THE B^&%S TO GO ACROSS THE PACKISTAN BOARDER AND WHIPE OUT THE TRAINING CAMPS OF THE TERRORESTS.............Oh and I don't really care if it is a Dem. Or a Rep. that grows a pair and kills the sob's.

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Lyle you need to reread..........I was for going and killing the ones that blew up our buildings.
I WASN'T...........FOR TURNING OUR BACKS ON ALL OF OUR DEAD.......PUTTING THE ONES THAT KILLED THEM ON THE BACK BURNER................WHILE WE GO TO IRAQ AND TRY TO SURE UP INVESTMENTS MADE BY OUR OIL CORPORATIONS.........It is well known by everyone else that there were NO AL-QUEIDA THERE TILL TWO YEARS AFTER WE ARIVED............AND TO THIS DAY NO ONE HAS HAD THE B^&%S TO GO ACROSS THE PACKISTAN BOARDER AND WHIPE OUT THE TRAINING CAMPS OF THE TERRORESTS.............Oh and I don't really care if it is a Dem. Or a Rep. that grows a pair and kills the sob's.

Okie, don't appolize; you're pretty much right. We originally went into Afganistan to get Bin Laden, but they "blew" that when they started "outsourcing" our military. Why we went into Iraq; we'll never know, it cost 5000 American lives thousands of maimed and wounded, at a cost that will make the national debt look like peanuts. Bush and Cheney sentenced the U.S. to a ten million dollar a month war that we couldn't win. The only ones that made out was Halibutron and Blackwater. Tom

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Originally posted by Joe Wesson
Why is that an ignorant statement ? The Mexican drug cartel was armed under Obama's administration and now he wants to disarm America. If this had been anyone else, they would have already been impeached. Obama needs to stand up for America and defend our Constitution. He took an oath to do so. He is doing the total opposite. He has no respect for our Constitution.
Everything in it is being threatened by him and his agenda.

My opinion on getting America back on the right track is:

1. Cut taxes for corporations and individuals. This will bring jobs back home. High taxes is one of the reasons they left.

2. Cut unnessesary spending such as abuse of entitlements. This alone is approximately 700 to 800 billion dollars a year.

3. Cut unnessesary regulations as this has shut down alot of industry such as coal mining.

4. Start up the pipe line and drill more here. We can be self sufficent and not have to depend on foreign oil.

5. Stop giving foreign aide to countries that are really our enemies.

6. We were founded one nation under God and we need to bring God back into our life and country.

These are just a few of the things that I think we need to get things going again. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO RID THE WHITE HOUSE OF OBAMA AND HIS SOCIALIST AGENDA.

VOTE ROMNEY IN 2012. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

SUPPORT THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT!!!

Joe Wesson
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Joe, are you an American citizen, did you live in a bunker with no communication for the past forty years. All the stuff you mentioned has been tried by Republicans before and didn't work, except the pipeline, and I know you know absolutely nothing about it. The coal industry, sad, but it is on its way out; and Church and God, well if you'd open your hearts, churches, and minds to young people; instead of driving them away, you might accomplish that. Let's face it, Joe, who would want to attend church where you are an elder? Let's talk about something we both know about, how about that Mitt Romney, he certainly made an impression on the folks in England, didn't he.That guy is a "whiz" at foreign policy and diplomacy. It's easy to see why you want him on your ticket. Tom

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Joe, are you an American citizen, did you live in a bunker with no communication for the past forty years. All the stuff you mentioned has been tried by Republicans before and didn't work, except the pipeline, and I know you know absolutely nothing about it. The coal industry, sad, but it is on its way out; and Church and God, well if you'd open your hearts, churches, and minds to young people; instead of driving them away, you might accomplish that. Let's face it, Joe, who would want to attend church where you are an elder? Let's talk about something we both know about, how about that Mitt Romney, he certainly made an impression on the folks in England, didn't he.That guy is a "whiz" at foreign policy and diplomacy. It's easy to see why you want him on your ticket. Tom
I can see why you and the english don't like him, HE tells it like it is!!!!!

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Read the book "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Maars. It will open your eyes about corporate America /corporate government in the years following WW2,and shed some light on the mess we are in today.

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btw,I think both candidates are out to line their pockets and dont give a crap about the citizens of this great country.jmo

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btw,I think both candidates are out to line their pockets and dont give a crap about the citizens of this great country.jmo

ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHO TO VOTE FOR???

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btw,I think both candidates are out to line their pockets and dont give a crap about the citizens of this great country.jmo


I look at it this way, if someone can turn this country around and get the economy going in the right direction, I don't care if he lines his pockets or not. Who wants a broke President running this country anyway.

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ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHO TO VOTE FOR???
Wish I knew.!! I hope someone can turn the economy around, but I have my doubts. Our govt needs some serious reform,they need to be a govt "BY THE PEOPLE,FOR THE PEOPLE" instead of what can I do for myself and the mega corporations who financed my campaign.

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Joe for president!!!


Hey Dawg,

While I do appreciate your support, I decided not to run this year because this time I am supporting the next PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, MITT ROMNEY!!! However, in the future if I decide to run, you will be the first one that I will contact. You can be my running mate!!!!! We agree and have some of the same ideas on the direction our Country should go. If we were calling the shots, the Demos would really be stroking out!!! They would hate us worse than Romney. LOL

Dawg stay the course. We have alot of good Americans on these threads that are standing up for America. Together, we will get MITT ROMNEY elected in Nov.

VOTE ROMNEY IN 2012--GOD BLESS AMERICA

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Truth........

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The mexican drug cartell was armed wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before then. They were the fastest growning terrorest group or gang over 10 years ago. You make me laugh though. He has done some really stupid stuff. Look it up and quit makeing it up.

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The mexican drug cartell was armed wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before then. They were the fastest growning terrorest group or gang over 10 years ago.

SO, YOU ADMIT THERE WAS NO GOOD REASON FOR SUPPLYING THEM WITH MORE WEAPONS AND IT'S HORRIBLE THAT BRIAN TERRY, ARMED WITH BEANBAGS, HAD TO BE THE ONE TO PAY THE PRICE FOR SUCH STUPIDITY???

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JUST THINK; UNDER THIS TREATY LAW, OBAMA AND ERIC HOLDER WOULD BE INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST AND WOULD BE GIVEN EVEN MORE RIGHTS. WEEEE DOGGIE.

THEY KNEW WHEN TO BREAK PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL LAW TO UNDERMINE FREEDOM, NOW THEIR TAKING ANOTHER APPROACH. WE BETTER WAKE UP AND STAND UNITED.

YES; BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE!! GOD BLESS

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SO, YOU ADMIT THERE WAS NO GOOD REASON FOR SUPPLYING THEM WITH MORE WEAPONS AND IT'S HORRIBLE THAT BRIAN TERRY, ARMED WITH BEANBAGS, HAD TO BE THE ONE TO PAY THE PRICE FOR SUCH STUPIDITY???
You think 5 more guns made a difference?

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You think 5 more guns made a difference?

ASK THAT QUESTION TO MR. TERRY'S FAMILY!!!

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If you were obama or one of his cronies would you want the people whos country you were destroying to have guns?

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You think 5 more guns made a difference?


Actually one more may have made a difference, the one in our guys hands that was FORCED to use BEANBAGS against real bulletts from the drug runners.

It was ironic and telling that the Obama administration armed the bad guys and disarmed ours.

Kinda like what he wants to do to all US citizens.

Look up his views on gun control. No way a hunter or gun owner if they were honest could support him if they really looked at his voting record and what he says about how he feels about guns.

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I can see us shooting coon out with beanbags. What's obama really done to help anything or anybody in the working world? Some of yall supporters please tell us. I want to know why you'd still support him!

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Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
SO, YOU ADMIT THERE WAS NO GOOD REASON FOR SUPPLYING THEM WITH MORE WEAPONS AND IT'S HORRIBLE THAT BRIAN TERRY, ARMED WITH BEANBAGS, HAD TO BE THE ONE TO PAY THE PRICE FOR SUCH STUPIDITY???


Yes it is stupid any time we do any thing to help the cartel. It is just dirt sory that we by there dope and sell them guns and don't shoot every single soul that comes wadeing across that river. BUT I am reallistic. The mofia money made is a big control of our government. Don't look at the prestident for blame. All this was going on before he got office or several presidents before him.
Closed minded people setting on there buts on forums calling each other Dem. AND Rep. Like it was a bad word is just what they gave you the names for. If people didn't have so much hate and would look at the real reasons this country is the way it is WE COULD ALL GET TOGETHER like all the people all over the world did tonight at the olympic opening tonight.
It isn't ever the people that make nations fight each other and it isn't the people that control the goverment when they take our jobs over sea's.
All we have to do with it is to vote on the ones that the billionaires and industries have to deal with.
Say you are a millionair in the furnature buisness and you get elected for an office. You have to get material to build your furniture. How bad can a billionair hurt your family by forceing your supplier to go up on there price or just quit delivering to you. Our grocerie store in town had that done to them by a big corporate chain store. They just started buying enough to fill up the truck. Our store couldn't afford to buy a whole truck full.
It is more about that kind of power than votes or even money.
I CAN ONLY DREAM OF HOW BIG AND DIRTY IT GETS DEALING NATION TO NATION WORLD WIDE.
So keep thinking one man makes a da^&. They love it. Just like pupets on a string

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