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Should Sam be world champion
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edwardfasteddy
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When you are going to a tree with a Back up guide or a spectator who is going to know who you called or what you are talking about? All the competition hunter I know are all good people and I wouldn't imagine they would do such a thing... I think when a seasoned competition hunter asked if he can go to his dog when he is to stay with the cast, that is cheating and should be scratched, they know better then to even ask, The reason they ask is to see if the judge is dumb enough to let them get away with it..... JMO

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This whole process disappoints me. No way it should have taken this long to make a decision. Now there will be doubt in everyone's mind no matter what the outcome is. Very unprofessional in my opinion.

It is very easy to hide behind a name on this board and talk crap. There are only a few people that absolutely know the truth. The rest are speculating.

In my mind, if the dog or handler had done something to get eliminated at the zones, that should have been taken care of before he was allowed to hunt in the finals. After the finals started, those questions should be DEAD and not allowed to be considered again.

If you have read all that has been written about this deal, you have probably figured out what is going on behind the scenes. Sounds like one man is causing most of the stir.

Give the dog the title and move on.

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Ok I think I will stir it some more the longer it stayes on here the worse it's going to get I think I am going to get judge Judy to try and recoupe what I spent on this hunt and what I spent on all these tee shirts need a decition Quik I am about broke lol.


I am off work all day ................. Where's that hobo guy at.

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Tar it won't take Judge Judy. Just tell me what it would cost to shut you up about this and I could probably raise the money real fast through donations.

What do you have against SAMBO. Just let UKC handle their issues.

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Bruce if you can read !! If you go back and read I said he has won to much not to be a coon dog I am just having fun don't care either way wheather he keeps it or not but I do know the rest of the story and in a minute you are fixing to find out it shouldn't have went this far !!



Now how about sending me one of those limited edition Bruce conkey on time every time stop watches you were trying to sell the other day!!

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My guess is that the UKC is talking with lawyers before giving their decision. Lawyers would be the only thing holding the decision up this long. Just my thoughts...

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Tone it down guys, or they will delete another good topic...

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Yadkintar since you know the rest of the story please pm me and let me know cause i was there. Bruce you have a pm

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I wasent there but I know and you don't want it on here leave it at that !!


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Yes i want to know

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Any other time they just up and do what ever they fill like doing. I think the guy involved with this whole thing, Is making them a little bit more concerned ,and that is what's taking so much time?

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Edwardfasteddy, it is not cheating to get permission from the judge to go handle your dog on a separate tree. That is stated in the rules on the back of the card.

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quote:
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Yes i want to know



Robbie I robert Hitt up till I got this moh license in my back pocket was the worst nightmare you could ever imagine. Ain't nothing ever pulled now that wasent done back then you was there I hope no matter which way I goes that this is a learning experience for everybody not a sore looser got beat fair and square no matter who won makes no difference to me I raise my own dogs. After all the good things I have done in this sport for all these years every once in a while sombody has to bring up one of the things I am ashamed of good luck in this hope it works out for you I know you got a good dog but you got to understand it ain't just about this year it's been coming for awhile now and we need to fix it again good luck man to man I meen it !


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My guess is that the UKC is talking with lawyers before giving their decision. Lawyers would be the only thing holding the decision up this long. Just my thoughts...


Its been 2 months I would say you are right about a lawyer. No way it should take this long to know what happened.

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I have no idea what happened....but I feel if they let the dog move on then he is world champ .... DONE DEAL ....

I believe the phrase "suck it up buttercup" comes into play on this one......

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Tar it won't take Judge Judy. Just tell me what it would cost to shut you up about this and I could probably raise the money real fast through donations.

What do you have against SAMBO. Just let UKC handle their issues.



Bruce, you can make that offer to me. I will give you a number that might be manageable. Lol. Robert, throw a number at him see if he really means it.

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$1,300 is what I spent no stop watches or lights just cash will be fine.

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Re: Re: .

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Bruce, you can make that offer to me. I will give you a number that might be manageable. Lol. Robert, throw a number at him see if he really means it.
I will donate $1 to each Bruce and throw in some thyroid pills for there dogs YADKINTAR has decided to keep his knowledge to himself, said he does not want to have to go to court in Kalamazoo and shovel snow

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I wonder if the hounds are as concerned as the handlers are? Them dogs is probably ready to be turned loose

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Tar here is what Judge Judy said about it!

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That made my day Bruce lmbo ! That's the Bruce I want to see lol.


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Now that's the funniest thing that's been on here in a while

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Bruce if you can read !! If you go back and read I said he has won to much not to be a coon dog I am just having fun don't care either way wheather he keeps it or not but I do know the rest of the story and in a minute you are fixing to find out it shouldn't have went this far !!



Now how about sending me one of those limited edition Bruce conkey on time every time stop watches you were trying to sell the other day!!

Check your pm !!



On time every time!! Bahahaha was an interesting thread while i dropped logs off!

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What happens if they take the title away from Sam will they reimburse everyone at the world hunt finals for their gas hotels and time away from work? If they take the title does this mean every accusation gets investigated to the fullest extent like this one has from Big hunts to little weekend hunts? Does this mean people will lose faith in UKC and it will make them not hunt many hunts for the fact if you go win a hunt fair and square you can still get falsely accused of something and get a win took away? Will this hurt business revenue for UKC and people not drive halfway across the country to hunts?

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What happens if they take the title away from Sam will they reimburse everyone at the world hunt finals for their gas hotels and time away from work? If they take the title does this mean every accusation gets investigated to the fullest extent like this one has from Big hunts to little weekend hunts? Does this mean people will lose faith in UKC and it will make them not hunt many hunts for the fact if you go win a hunt fair and square you can still get falsely accused of something and get a win took away? Will this hurt business revenue for UKC and people not drive halfway across the country to hunts?

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