Registered: Nov 2008
Location: sunflower, ms.
Posts: 341

Very interesting thread! I like Mckinney's, Blue Blue's, and Morgans ideas. I'd like for some of the northern hunters to come to the Miss. Delta in July and turn loose in a 1000 acre rice field.The coons stay in these fields in the summer and they don't leave. I've had some mighty good races in the last 45 years.I like to listen to a dog tree as well ad anyone, but a good rice field race once in a while is ok too. A coon can stay in a cotton field or a corn field or a bean field too if he wonts to.I.ve hunted in about every state that has coon hunts and every area is different. The hunting is different and the hunters are different; but we all share one thing in common:We Love Our Sport! Its much easier to get along than to fuss and argue, especially if you haven't been in another mans shoes. I wonder how many on here knows how Mr. Turnbiw got his name Blue blue? Thanks and good luck tonight, Jr. Steelman

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 3660

delta, I think us guys in the north get it about these long races, it's the guys in the middle of the country....

__________________
patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it.
if you think the price of education is high, check out the cost of ignorance!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2007
Location:
Posts: 1314

back in the early 80's when i was hunting the delta with ole T. C. it was the best hunting i had ever seen. I have many fond memories of those days and enjoyed all those pleasure hunt races no matter what kind. Didn't need a garmin cause T. C. could tell you what every dog and every coon was doing and where they were going and i'll have to say most of the time he was right.

__________________
Bob Turnbow 931-212-0069

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2008
Location: sunflower, ms.
Posts: 341

T.C. Jones taught me a lot about coon hunting; both pleasure and competition.He was one of the few really Hard hunters that I've known. When T.C. unloaded a blue dog out of that chevy truck at a hunt, he came to win it and usually did.He was a true dog man! I remember hunting at Catfish Point with Mr. Bill Tinnin, TC Jones and Moose Kimbrell when Blue Blue was still living......many seasins ago. Mr Bill is getting up in years now, but still gets around a little.Jr.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2006
Location: DEEP FORK VALLEY, OKLAHOMA
Posts: 1815

ever watch the kentucky derby and see how hard them thouroghbreds are breathing after a mile n a quarter? I would give a guy the benefit of the douht if it is 3-4 miles away but the garmin showed the to run 13 miles, otherwise and probably like wise theyre still trashin.

__________________
" an old wood burnin stove with no
natural gas "
405-471-7372

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2007
Location:
Posts: 1176

I'm sicker than a dog but reading this is making me feel a little better. LOL this is funny sh!t. Now I guess we have to spray paint coon before we cut them loose so we know for sure if our dogs treed the same one 6 miles away. And put garmins on wild coon. For the record OSU did put wildlife collars on alot of coon and tracked there every move in several diff places. You all might want to watch the show they made about it on the PBS OSU channel. Fill with real facts!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2011
Location: Taylorsville, Ky
Posts: 213

quote:

---

Originally posted by David Morgan
We walked about 50 feet to get the dogs beside a right of way bushogged for a deer stand.

---

__________________
When properly trained, man can be a
dogs best friend.
---------
Chelsey's Black Zelda - Gsd
Lola von Miller - Gsd
Agladia vom Schwarz - Gsd
Majors screamin Cade- Walker
Goose creek Daisy - walker

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 3660

David, your statement about 13 miles was that the dogs ran 13 miles over the course of the race, not ended up 13 miles away right? Seems like some of the readers think your dog got 13 miles away. I am assuming in this 13 mile run that they never left a 2 square mile area?

Whatever happened out there it seems like no one is challenging the 2 hour 10 minute statement. How much ground does everyone think a dog would cover in 2 hours? I would be shocked if a dog ran any less. I mean, not in a straight line, but in the course of running a coon that is zigging and zagging back and forth. And for those of you thinking that these dogs ran a yote or fox for 2 hours and then dropped off on a coon in the middle of a pine plantation- does it make any sense that a coon would have just hung out in the area with this pack of dogs roaring around? Wouldn't you think that coon would have been headed away from those dogs? I mean, I do believe that dogs will drop off junk for a coon, but more likely when they are headed cross country fast. this chase sounded more like the dogs were weaving and bobbing through rough tickets, not moving out fast....

__________________
patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it.
if you think the price of education is high, check out the cost of ignorance!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2011
Location: Taylorsville, Ky
Posts: 213

quote:

---

Originally posted by truly
David, your statement about 13 miles was that the dogs ran 13 miles over the course of the race, not ended up 13 miles away right? Seems like some of the readers think your dog got 13 miles away. I am assuming in this 13 mile run that they never left a 2 square mile area?

Whatever happened out there it seems like no one is challenging the 2 hour 10 minute statement. How much ground does everyone think a dog would cover in 2 hours? I would be shocked if a dog ran any less. I mean, not in a straight line, but in the course of running a coon that is zigging and zagging back and forth. And for those of you thinking that these dogs ran a yote or fox for 2 hours and then dropped off on a coon in the middle of a pine plantation- does it make any sense that a coon would have just hung out in the area with this pack of dogs roaring around? Wouldn't you think that coon would have been headed away from those dogs? I mean, I do believe that dogs will drop off junk for a coon, but more likely when they are headed cross country fast. this chase sounded more like the dogs were weaving and bobbing through rough tickets, not moving out fast....

---

__________________
When properly trained, man can be a
dogs best friend.
---------
Chelsey's Black Zelda - Gsd
Lola von Miller - Gsd
Agladia vom Schwarz - Gsd
Majors screamin Cade- Walker
Goose creek Daisy - walker

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2007
Location:
Posts: 614

Truly, The 13.31 miles was the distance traveled by the dog. The coon went about 1/2 mile in several directions and ended up about 1/2 mile from where it started. There were 3 dogs involved but only one had not been on another coon before this one. They did not switch off. Over the years in Feb. and March we have run quite a few like this. John Logan came here from Miss. thinking it was not possible for a coon to run this long. He left a year later with a different perspetive. He will tell you that he has seen a coon running in the piney woods hide behind a tree that he could have climbed and wait for the dogs to go by and run right back down his track. It takes different factors to get one of these races. Rutting season helps, coons having to travel a long distance between water and food so that they have a big range, thin coons, and terrain that gives them the advantange.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 3660

quote:

---

Originally posted by David Morgan
Truly, The 13.31 miles was the distance traveled by the dog. The coon went about 1/2 mile in several directions and ended up about 1/2 mile from where it started. There were 3 dogs involved but only one had not been on another coon before this one. They did not switch off. Over the years in Feb. and March we have run quite a few like this. John Logan came here from Miss. thinking it was not possible for a coon to run this long. He left a year later with a different perspetive. He will tell you that he has seen a coon running in the piney woods hide behind a tree that he could have climbed and wait for the dogs to go by and run right back down his track. It takes different factors to get one of these races. Rutting season helps, coons having to travel a long distance between water and food so that they have a big range, thin coons, and terrain that gives them the advantange.

---

__________________
patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it.
if you think the price of education is high, check out the cost of ignorance!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2008
Location: Western N.Y.
Posts: 3995

quote:

---

Originally posted by truly
That was the answer I expected I would get. SOunds just like our runs in the cat tail sloughs. So these folks saying it is a junk run and the dogs switched over are thinking that with 3 hounds roaring around [I assume even a tight mouth dog barks a lot on this type of track] for 2 hours and a stupid raccoon just wanders into the area, or comes down from his safe spot up in a tree to be caught on the ground.

I would also like to extend an invitation to anyone who thinks a coon won't run like this to come on up for a hunt in the cat tail sloughs of MN. I have the perfect drop for you...... After the coon makes a few loops in a 3 acre swamp he will cross the road into a slough that runs about 4 miles long and up to about 1 mile wide. We can start a fire and drink beer by the roadside if you want. It is gonna be a long wait. This coon gets run nearly on a daily basis by a local hound that is never tied up. If she can't catch this one and kill it I am gonna enjoy listening to your dogs try.....

---

__________________
Everything that makes them a COONDOG is on the inside

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2009
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 880

quote:

---

Originally posted by Dan Dogs

---

__________________
"Breezy Oaks blueticks"
Home of the ROCK dog

Patrick Barrett

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2007
Location:
Posts: 614

Truly, We actually not in the stongest place around for long running coon. Tommy Primmeaux has the most I've been around about 60 miles from me out of DeQuincy La. We try to go over and hunt with him a few times a year to keep things in perspective. We ran one 2 years ago over there that we struck just after midnight. I was supposed to be somewhere at 7:30 so about 5:00am I started to try to catch my dog. I bumped him with the collar and he didn't come but froze up. I went to get him from 400 yards away. It took me 1 hour 45 minutes to get to him and back. It was hurricane blown. 20 to 24 inch diameter hardwood tops, roots and all laying side by side covered with vines and briars 8 to 10 feet deep. I had to climb over one and fall through the briars to the ground, get up, go 50 feet and do it again. A coon can run in that sruff as long as it wants. It takes dogs with special heart and drive to stay after one without quitting or treeing slick for as long as it takes. It's no something you want to do every night, but it es a good place to gut check one.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2008
Location: Yazoo City, Mississippi
Posts: 427

Warning! Anyone that takes David Morgan up on a hunt you need the following equipment. 1. A light with no cord. 2. Knee pads for crawling. 3. GPS 4. Several rolls of toilet paper to flag your way to and from tree (or bush in most cases). 5. Several boxes of band-aids. People with full time jobs need not apply.

__________________
Home of "The Dirty Rat" Proud supporters of The Treeing Walker Breeders and Fanciers Association!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2004
Location: tioga co.pa
Posts: 1728

wont touch this post W/ a 10ft pole.......Blueticks since 1954

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2003
Location:
Posts: 3790

quote:

---

Originally posted by David Morgan
Some of the posts have shown their total lack of knowledge of this type of hunting. Some of you have previously posted that if your dog ran coon more than 10 minutes you would shoot it.

---

Last edited by smokin-1-mo on 04-06-2013 at 07:51 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2011
Location:
Posts: 389

Wow! I've read this post from beginning to end, very interesting. This post is lot a good pot of gumbo, it has a little bit of everything in it! It's defiantly kept me entertained for the last 30 minutes, maybe it should be called "Tall Tales and Ringtails" (joking) I live in Mississippi and can relate to the thick terrain, never hunted in or around big fields so I have no input on that. A long race to me personally is 30 to 45 minutes, even then it's started out as a cold track.
This thread reads like that of a reality show script! Lol keep it up, I'd like more about the legendary T.C Jones myself. I also know a edlerly man that still straight stock from T.C he's kept up if anybody is interested.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2007
Location:
Posts: 614

Jay, you and John need to bring the Dirty Rat back over here and see if he still has what it takes tree one in mine or Tommy's ruff stuff. If he can't we will go to the bottoms and le him tree an easy one.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged