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You're judging again,just learned something new and can't help yourself but i understand! Good night,going to my union job for my free stuff in the morning,I'm from arkansas,union?

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good night friend....

Not judging... just being a fruit inspector. word says you will know my sheep by the fruit they produce. It aint hard to spot the fruitless. haha

Have a good day tomorrow....
thanks for your service to our country.

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What's the difference when your party practices this behind close doors and your still blind enough that you CAN'T AND WON'T call them out. So you pickout what you're passionate about and throw the rest in the garbage? Will you be judged? What you're said is dems are not hypocirtes becasue they don't hide behind closed doors? ARE YOU GOD? WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO JUDGE?

Are you comparing the principles of the two party platforms to the actions of individuals within those parties?

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p.s. I love my country.. very passionate

about it. I lost my oldest brother to vietnam and the more I learn about it and the part that Johnson and Kennedy played in that role really disheartens me about what we call liberty and freedom any more.
It saddens me deeply what our politicians have done with our country.
read killing Kennedy by Bill Oreilly and you will get a good taste of what politics are really about.

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Principles of two parties comprised of men who are suject to failure. You're the inspector of yourself,still trying to judge. Sorry you will follow your own short comings no matter,rights that extend as far as your nose? Heaven or hell is a choice and you're not the fruit inspector GOD is. Follow the good book not bill's book or fox news, i know it's hard for you but try!! Hey preacher,ask that question to your team member who pointed this out? You can't,wonder why? Gotta question for ya,when was these freedoms that you speak of at it's greatest in this country? And please name one that we've lost? Maybe your freedoms are privileges?

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Boy you are a bitter dude......

The scriptures warned me about you....Proverbs 23:9..."Do not speak to a fool, for he will scorn the wisdom of our words!"
You do not know the bible, it is apparent. Jesus told us to be aware of Wolves in sheeps clothing.....How can I not do that without having what you calling judgement. IT is actually the Holy Spirit giving me a decerning spirit to recognize evil when I see it.

I tried to help you friend, but you are steeped in your tradition and ideology. I see you never wanted to answer my question about you aligning yourself with the imorality YOUR president believes in.
To be a veteran and feel and act your way is mind blowing to me.
The dems are getting ready to pull 62 billion out of the military and leave us vunerable.

You buddy will eat the fruit of your words. This country in less than 4 short years will be a collasal mess and your beliefs joined with those like you and this president and every member of his administration will have the blood of it on your hands. Sleep well with that thought.
You will say you will, but you and God know that you won't.

I will take my bible advice and take it where it's needed. Dusting my feet. Forgive him Lord...he knows not what he does.

Hey Preacher....good luck...you know we are fighting a losing battle on here. Lets go talk coonhunting.

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Tradition,read your post!! Man, I really feel sorry for you thinking your world view of privileges (not freedoms) that you've lost. Never named any? Too bad your bible memorizations didn't work.

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Mr. Stevenson, Mr Ray wants me to ask you a question. Is Mr. Ray comparing the principles of the two party platforms to the actions of individuals within those parties?

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lol...yup preacher, appears so....

I think he also was axing what freedoms we had lost as if we havent...Let me see if I can come up with some....
1. my children didnt get to pledge the allegence to the flag, like I did growing up.
2. My children didnt get a chance to pray in school like we did when I was growing up. we used to have a morning prayer over the intercom every morning before classes started.
3. We cant have a nativity scene in my town square like we used to.
4. Now in california, parents can no longer take their kids to a pastor or get therepy if they say they are Gay. No matter if they are 9 or 10 or any age. You are no longer the leader of your household. the government can fine you tons of money if you attempt to tell your own children they are not born that way.
5. freedom to have your vote count. In calif. again....they voted to do away with same sex marriage and a gay judge over turned their vote....now if that is not taking your rights away then there is no such thing.....Now that has made its way up to the state supreme court and they upheld it and now its on its way to the u.s. supreme court.
they have infiltrated the judges at the state level. thats why Obama getting to appoint two to three supreme court justices is such a big harm to our nation. they will uphold every gay agenda there is. abortion is now here to stay forever.
6. Obama took the oil rights from folks on govn. land because they hadnt started drilling yet. Just took it away. If you sign a lease, when did it start becoming non binding just because the president wants to appease tree huggers. sounds like a freedom taken away to me.

I could go on and on of freedoms and rights being taken away with tons coming down the pike.
freedom of speech is right on the horizon and so are gun rights. they are wording it as hate speach if anything disagrees with them and their beliefs. they will work gun control under the u.n.treaty.....6 hours after obama was elected, he stated he wanted the u.n. treaty plan on his desk right after the first of the year for him to sign.

check out agenda 21 and see how the wording of your local laws are designed to take away your rights and give the government more power over us.

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Prayer in schools,what does the constitution and the first amend. say about it? Still pledge here,so you're wrong again. Thought you was from miss.not cal.another miss step, can't vote there!! Oil rights on GOV.LAND NOT YOUR PRIVATE LAND! Real freedoms being lost? Privileges lost!! Local law in this red state, red county? LOL!!

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What part of Arkansas do you live in? Our children can't say the pledge or pray out loud in schools here in Pine Bluff. I wish they could. It's really sad the day and time we live in. Our country was founded on the Freedom of religion being able to worship as Christians not muslims, hindus,buddhist, scientologists, The list goes on and on. We have taken God out of everything we can because His Name and his Word offends some people. Nobody worries about offending the Christians. We are all going to sin we were born with a sin nature. I don't hate or dislike anybody for their sins as well I don't want to be judged for mine. Christians aren't perfect just forgiven. Life has many choices...Eternity has two they are an eternity in Heaven with God or eternity in Hell eternally separated from God. Everyone has this choice to make. This argument can go on forever and never be settled. I believe that the United States is the best country there is to live in. I also believe that we are in great danger of becoming one of the worst. My dad fought in Vietnam (2 tours), He fought for a country that he loved and believed in. But he told me before he died that in my lifetime, I would see the United States either one be taken over and run by common people because we finally stand up and fight for our rights and win or become communist because we don't. I don't know if either will happen but I do see it changing for the worst all the time. What troubles me the most is people either suffer from ignorance or apathy. Either our citizens don't know its changing or don't care. Our country should be self sustaining and was at one time. We shouldn't be buying oil from other countries when we have our own. Our goods shouldn't be bought from foreign countries when we can produce the same items here. Our jobs are being lost and sent over seas because nobody wants to work anymore. Not everyone can make 50,000 - 100,000 dollars a year. Somebody has to work for less. everyday we are losing jobs. Guess what will eventually happen there will be no jobs at all. Which means no taxes to draw money from to GIVE to someone else. I live in South Arkansas and our paper mills and lumber mills are closing everyday. Pine Bluff was once a nice town and now is full of crime and lawlessness. I believe that its time for us to turn from our wickedness as a country and turn to God and ask him to bless this once great Nation. If you don't see things my way thats fine and I will agree to disagree. I also hope that wherever you live in Arkansas is better than it was 25 or 50 years ago but I travel all over this state and don't believe it could be.

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Camden, You're in pine bluff,i feel sorry for you,man! What does the first amendment say before you start ranting how bad the christians have it. Your post explains why this happen in the first place. Where does it say your religion is supreme in the beloved constitution? The rest of your post just talks about capitalism, and it doesn't owe anyone anything it's about the almighty dollar. I work in rison sometimes but that's as close a i wanna get. Gotta ask when was this country on GOD's path?

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jesus is the reason this country is so powerful,if you dont believe it look at the countrys that dont believe in him and see how thats worked out for them.

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Jesus favor one country over another? Please name me some countries?

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Jesus favor one country over another? Please name me some countries?


God does in fact favor Israel over any other. They are His chosen people. Even when they were back-slidden as a nation, he forgave them, and restored them. He judged them, and allowed them to be defeated, but has always restored Israel. After hundreds of years of not having a "place to call home" God restored a nation to the homeland that he had called them to, a land flowing with Milk and Honey. He did that at least twice. Once coming out of Egypt, and later after WW2.

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What source, out of all possible available sources, is the most referenced by our forefathers in the founding documents of our great nation?

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preacher, preacher....

you are playing with the mentally impaired again.....when are you going to stop....you will go to the boogie man if you keep that up.

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Do you people even read the bible or did a preacher (real one or wanna be) tell you his opinion. lol!! What source? What scriptures are in the constitution? READ THE FIRST AMENDMENT. Cripple, you're about to let that hypocrite out!! LOL! Mentally impaired now that's the christian thing to say. God does not favor any man or country over another, only one way to be saved!!!

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Israel or the jews? Israelis or israelites? Judahism believes what about christ and the only way the be saved is how? Where are the israelites? Don't just read one verse,study. That's why y'all are called bible thumpers because,you think it's your way only, trying hard to your force views and opinions on others. Probably some right wing group using the bible to force their political views on others,they come a dime a dozen.

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GOD is not a respecter of men ,ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of GOD. A non-believing( in CHRIST) jewish person is just as lost as any unbeliever,people are not saved because of the blood that runs through there veins but by the blood shed at Calvary,rightousness was accounted to Abraham why? because he believed God. now I stand for Israel and think we should support them but they have to come to God the Father the same way everybody does and thats through God the Son

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GOD is not a respecter of men ,ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of GOD. A non-believing( in CHRIST) jewish person is just as lost as any unbeliever,people are not saved because of the blood that runs through there veins but by the blood shed at Calvary,rightousness was accounted to Abraham why? because he believed God. now I stand for Israel and think we should support them but they have to come to God the Father the same way everybody does and thats through God the Son
Meaning they are not chosen. Definition of chosen? They were but christ changed that so everyone can enter the kingdom of God,jews and gentiles alike!! You don't even know anything about the jews of old,God is not a respecter of men,meaning there is no chosen anything now. OKlared,I'm church of christ and We both believe in one God so.....leave it at that. Thank for the education!!!

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Replacement theology?

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Me?

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