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john Duemmer
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Obama voters seem to fall into one of the following 3 groups
Group (1) union employee's who believe their job security depends on a Dem. being in office
Group (2) The deadbeats who depend on the Govt. for a check every month so they dont have to hold down a job.
Group (3) The race voters, over 90% of African americans who feel its their duty to vote for the brother, even though their plight in america has worsened under his administration.
If you support Obama and dont fall into one of the above groups, tell us why?

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John you are exactly right!!!

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Gov.mitt? He has policies he has campaigned on for months?

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Mitt romney supporters are mis-informed,old white males and racist,if this isn't you tell me why you're voting for romney? I'm a black guy so you pretty summed it up for me but what about you! There's your answer!! That african-american vote keeps coming up but shhh! !I better keep my mouth closed for the fear i'll label as race baiting on a predominately white message board.

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Mitt romney supporters are mis-informed,old white males and racist,if this isn't you tell me why you're voting for romney? I'm a black guy so you pretty sum it up for me but what about you! There's your answer!!


Doesnt matter to me if your black or not. My God tells me to love all of man kind.

BUT I asked the question first. Why do you support Obama?

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I think obama giving what had to work with has done a decent job,and plus i watched the repubs.debates and that told me there was no room for people like me just something the cons can kick around for a scare tactics. I don't agree with everything obama but he doesn't owe me as a american who happens to black guy anything that he can't offer any other american.

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Obama voters seem to fall into one of the following 3 groups
Group (1) union employee's who believe their job security depends on a Dem. being in office
Group (2) The deadbeats who depend on the Govt. for a check every month so they dont have to hold down a job.
Group (3) The race voters, over 90% of African americans who feel its their duty to vote for the brother, even though their plight in america has worsened under his administration.
If you support Obama and dont fall into one of the above groups, tell us why?



TRACK... I know you are part of group 3 and i understand your motivation. I asked the question because i realize anyone who falls into one of the three groups i mentioned is going to vote Dem. reguardless of the consequences to the country. Its the opinion of the undecided voter that i would be interested in hearing because that is the group that will decide which direction our country will go for the next 4 yrs.

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You really don't know republican history? Were you concerned when bush was in office,probably not cause you fall in one of those three catogory i mention but i understand your motivation. Got one brother and sister but have alot of frat.brothers.

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i dont fall in those categories john, and i lean toward obama. as a full-time workin citizen, i care about taxes and jobs, thats it. my guns are here to stay and no one i ever cared about has killed a child. it boggles my mind when people on here make a median salary and want to vote for a politician who wants you to pay in more than he does. i feel the same for bush as most do obama, i wouldnt give george an aspirin if he was having a heart attack

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You really don't know republican history? Were you concerned when bush was in office,probably not cause you fall in one of those three catogory i mention but i understand your motivation.


No i dont think you understand my motivation at all. The only group that you mentioned that applies to me at all would be old. Your continual race baiting can only serve to further divide, when everyones goal should be to come togeather for the future of our country. Some of my ancestors were american indian, now theres a group that really got the shaft from the american Govt. and some were german immigrants that came to this country for freedom and an opportunity to suceed in an envornment where anyone with enough guts and determination could build a good life for there families WITHOUT the Govt. redistributing the things they worked for.

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i dont fall in those categories john, and i lean toward obama. as a full-time workin citizen, i care about taxes and jobs, thats it. my guns are here to stay and no one i ever cared about has killed a child. it boggles my mind when people on here make a median salary and want to vote for a politician who wants you to pay in more than he does. i feel the same for bush as most do obama, i wouldnt give george an aspirin if he was having a heart attack


So if you only care about taxes and jobs, do you feel the job situation we have now is better than it would be under a Romney administration?

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But you understand me because of what? but i'm race baiting. Don't try to define me if you don't wanna be defined. You didn't say hispanics,young voters,or women,just african-american voters and i'm race baiting.

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No i dont think you understand my motivation at all. The only group that you mentioned that applies to me at all would be old. Your continual race baiting can only serve to further divide, when everyones goal should be to come togeather for the future of our country. Some of my ancestors were american indian, now theres a group that really got the shaft from the american Govt. and some were german immigrants that came to this country for freedom and an opportunity to suceed in an envornment where anyone with enough guts and determination could build a good life for there families WITHOUT the Govt. redistributing the things they worked for.


Right on the button, John. I have relatives buried in the Erie Canal....Irish slave labor. If I want my "wealth" distributed I will spread it around myself. I am sick and tired of giveaway programs. I am not talking about unemployment and I am not talking about welfare for a poor mom that is trying to make ends meet after a man walks out on her. I am talking about illegal aliens and some of the welfare and social security programs that make it too easy to sit on your fat duff and collect while you are healthy enough to work for it.

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You're talking about the programs that clinton and cons.changed? Are you talking about the 47%? Same policies that the bush admin.used and never saw you complaining as though it was bush's fault. John, Some of my ancestors were American indian and they got a bad deal but of course no else got the shaft according to you and yours.

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You're talking about the programs that clinton and cons.changed? Are you talking about the 47%? Same policies that the bush admin.used and never saw you complaining as though it was bush's fault.


Nah its not 47% but their is a percentage of able bodied people in this country that are to dam lazy to work for a living that are helping to bankrupt us. Why dont you pick a number?

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The only thing Obama has done for this country is dig a deeper hole for us to get out of. He failed and it's time for him to go. Unemployment is down, and no reasonable plans to get jobs back to America. He has cut our drilling and made us folks down south suffer for it. He gives away to much money not to mention the deficit is still going up in an alarming rate. I could go on and on,but it will never hit home base with people who have a one track mind.

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What was wrong with the second picture?

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Your post,you tell me? Mitt said 47% and he's the one runnig for pres. He's is your canidate?

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You're talking about the programs that clinton and cons.changed? Are you talking about the 47%? Same policies that the bush admin.used and never saw you complaining as though it was bush's fault. John, Some of my ancestors were American indian and they got a bad deal but of course no else got the shaft according to you and yours.


My point was just the opposite, all the ethnic groups took their licks when they came here, but we live in a country where, with hard work and determination they had the opportunity to better themselves and suceed. Thats what made this country the envy of the free world and i would like to believe that those opportunities will exist for future generations. How about you?

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I do and that's why I vote. Obama is a product of these same opportunities.

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I do and that's why I vote. Obama is a product of these same opportunities.


Yeah that being born in Hawaii had to be tough, and being sent to all those nasty private schools my my.just heard lately that when poor old granny died she left him a cool half a Mil.

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I'm pretty sure that most of you watched the conventions. Did you notice the difference in the crowds, the way they were dressed and the color of their skins. Oh yes there were some black people at the Republican convention but few and far between, and what few were there, the camera man made sure that you noticed. Just watching the conventions tells me the difference in the 2 partys.

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Running for pres. and suceeding that's the product while looking as he does.

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If you only read my post and not the other romney fans or obama haters then i can see where you would say that. Obama/Biden 2012.

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Running for pres. and suceeding that's the product while looking as he does.


Yeah i see your point, he does have some big ol ears dont he.

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