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Originally posted by stillwater farm
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nccoonhunter197
[B]I am starting to think some people don't grasp the concept of the previously scored tree. A handler does not have to declare the dog treed if the cast thinks they have went back to a dead tree. If the handler does declare his dog treed and it is found to be on a dead tree then the points are deleted.
You can't determine anything about a tree until dogs are handled where they were treed at.They left before they could be scored and it be determined to be a previously scored.Minus the two that LEFT THE TREE handle the one that stayed and delete the tree....Start the 8 on the two at large,that's my take on it.YOU CANNOT SCORE ANY TREE UNTIL JUDGE DECIDES DOGS ARE TREEING TO HIS SATISFACTION AND ARE TOLD TO BE HANDLED and when judge watches them walk off of a tree they should of been minused emmediately at that point.Handle what stayed and score the tree,which was obviously deleted.
Let me really screw up your minds a little....
I heard a story about a cast at the world hunt (championship rules) where they were down to two dogs left in the cast. The dogs split treed by about 50 yards apart, the judge insisted that he see both trees that the dogs were treed on, and so he walked half way between the trees and when he was satisfied that he knew which trees the dogs were on he yelled "HANDLE YOUR DOGS"....and one of the dogs was spooked by the yelling and left before the handler could catch his dog.
The judge walked over to the tree that no longer had a dog under it, leaned a log against the tree and told the handler that he had an hour to catch his dog.
The handler of the dog that left went with the judge to the other dogs tree, and subsequently the dog that left treed yet again, and was called treed. The judge told him that he could not take his tree call, but did write it on the scorecard with a question.
They scored the other dogs tree...not finding a coon, they circled that tree...then went to the tree that had the the log leaned against it, and the judge shined that tree....
When the judge and other handler got to the second tree that the dog made, the judge explained that he had plussed the dogs tree that he left, and that time was out.!!!!
Now, I can't say that I agree with the judge in this case, but I can see the "logic" in his thinking.
He had determined which tree the dog was on, and if there were a possum found in that tree the dog would be eliminated, so he was going to look anyway, if the dog could be eliminated, and it was partially his fault (for yelling the way he did) constituting some form of interference, he felt that the tree was scorable once the judge determined what tree, and told the handler to handle the dogs.
If you follow that logic in this case you would certainly delete the points as soon as you determine that they are treeing on a closed tree.
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