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Tar, you are from the West. We Southerners sure don't claim Texas. Davy Crockett and all of our Volunteers tried to come over to the Alamo and bail y'all out once and look what happened to them.

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Fellows,they said it's them swampy places that give them the most trouble treeing coon.

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My buddy John seginak guided three casts and had a plus cast winner in all three. Made 5 trees each both Thursday and Friday!

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When you have a dog in the final cast of the world hunt come in, lay down, and chew on a stick should prove to everyone it takes a different kind of dog and we aint huntin the same type of coon as up north. Not saying one type is better than another just saying its DIFFERENT

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When you have a dog in the final cast of the world hunt come in, lay down, and chew on a stick should prove to everyone it takes a different kind of dog and we aint huntin the same type of coon as up north. Not saying one type is better than another just saying its DIFFERENT

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So you're saying these 2 dogs had 500 minus? Sounds to me like they struck a track and ended up treed slick. How's that a thin coon problem? They struck a coon track and should have been able to finish it with the meat.

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I'm so sick of hearing southern dog this southern dog that. Facts are the hunting there sucks and no other way to put it. When cast after cast after cast after cast after cast after cast doesn't have a winner then the event is a failure.

I will give you an example of 2 dogs that's done more winning then everyone on here combined. Wicked Vapor and Riding Solo. Both southern dogs used to winning in this coon yet they combined for about 500 minus. That's how awful the hunting was.

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How many of the 8 cast that didn't see a coon, how many didn't draw a bark? If there is no coon a coon dog typically won't bark. Does anybody know how many dogs never got on the card in 2hrs of hunting?

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How about that dog having to compete in multiple casts when the temps were in the 90s most of the day? Most dogs couldn't even finish a 2 hour hunt with extreme heat and humidity let alone 3 or 4 in a row.

I'm so sick of hearing southern dog this southern dog that. Facts are the hunting there sucks and no other way to put it. When cast after cast after cast after cast after cast after cast doesn't have a winner then the event is a failure.

I will give you an example of 2 dogs that's done more winning then everyone on here combined. Wicked Vapor and Riding Solo. Both southern dogs used to winning in this coon yet they combined for about 500 minus. That's how awful the hunting was.

First round finals casts should be about beating the 3 you draw and if those dogs hunt their guys out and can't get a coon treed it should be about the one that made the fewest mistakes plain and simple.

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If you don't like the hunting location and / or conditions, stay home. A lot of folks did. If you decided to stay home, more power to you. If you decided to come and did not like the conditions, to bad. The UKC gives everyone interested in the world hunt plenty of advance notice on the location of the world hunt. Take the advanced notice, study over all the different factors and then make a decision on whether or not it's worth your time and money to attempt to qualify. Very, very simple. Congratulations to all the dogs and handlers who competed and especially to the final four competitors and the winner!!

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Them boys from up north found out driving in sand ain't much different than driving in snow. Come on back now, ya hear?

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Even though the hunting conditions in Georgia were terrible and no coon was seen in two nights of hunting I I will say this, the Georgia host Coon Club did an excellent job putting this hunt together and I really do appreciate that. Just doesn't seem like a lot of fun going to a world hunt where that many dogs and up not scoring plus points and get put out simply because Coon are that hard to find. My dog went over a mile both nights without striking a coon track in Georgia. Although she did strike one coon and ran it three-quarters of a mile and treed unfortunately we were unable to find the Coon. The rest of the two nights I hunted my dog hunted hard in all directions without striking a coon track. Congratulations to bad habit Sam and everyone involved. He done a good job down there and had plus points on every cast.

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bottom line in my opinion, it takes a coon dog to tree a coon no matter where you hunt, ether its the coon pen in the mid west or the low coon population down south.

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Most the ones replying on this very thread have ZERO clue what it takes to win at a high level. Yet reply after reply of them pounding their chest saying they told us so. Get real. How about you go to a RQE, win it, drive and pay the entry for the zones and advance to the finals. Once you do those things then maybe you should be able to give your opinion. Then drive a thousand miles taking a few vacation days from work, to chase something that's a ghost, or appears to be one in Elberton.

Those dogs that had 500 minus combined are southern dogs. And they have done a ton of winning yet they couldn't even get plus points there. You know the only type there is. After all If a dog can't run 2 miles grub up a old bad track, or tree a lay up that hasn't been on the ground yet it must not be a coon dog. You guys kill me.

You can bank that after this year a lot of eyes were opened up. As soon as the finals was announced attendance dropped drastically and next time it's in a similar place it will be even worse. I feel for the people that have to hunt around there, I understand you are not blessed with coon like other states. But by gosh it's not acceptable to have it somewhere that discards one third of the paying customers simply because there aren't many coon to tree.

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Think about all the people who came to AO that left without seeing a coon.!?
Got a buddy that drew out against national champ feelin big. Thought yeah boy that would be a good place to go they are gonna tree the shot outta Coon. The cast made 9 trees and seen once Coon. Does that mean convoy Ohio had a ****** coon population or does that mean the dogs screwed up?????

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You poor little fellas always need thick easy coons. 😪

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
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Those dogs that had 500 minus combined are southern dogs. And they have done a ton of winning yet they couldn't even get plus points there. You know the only type there is. After all If a dog can't run 2 miles grub up a old bad track, or tree a lay up that hasn't been on the ground yet it must not be a coon dog. You guys kill me.

You can bank that after this year a lot of eyes were opened up. As soon as the finals was announced attendance dropped drastically and next time it's in a similar place it will be even worse. /QUOTE] The dogs that had 500- done something wrong or they wouldn't had minus points.
You guys that think hunting is a race to one easy coon after another, without the dog ever having to work a bad track, or tree a layup and still believe you have a coon dog kill me.
I hope it opened some eyes to what people are hunting so they can reevaluate their opinion of what a coondog is & what one should be able to do..

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I can't get past all this north south BS. 2 of the dogs in the finals were from the north so I believe that some people up here know what a coondog is. I also believe if a dog has to go over a mile to get struck then where your hunting is BS in a nitehunt. I hear all the talk about "down here they got to hunt a couple miles some nights" that's fine if your just hunting but how the hell can you compete like that? Oh I turned loose and never heard my dog again until I got my tracker out after the time was up? That's not competing. And spare me the bs about needing a dog with a better mouth because I don't believe theres many dogs you would ever be able to hear at those distances!

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Not taking away from anyone or any dog but after reading all these posts here's my take on it. If those casts were coming in with minus and or circle points, there was obviously coons to be treed, otherwise the score cards would have been blank. Obviously coons aren't as thick in the south, we all know that but hounds have been treeing coons in the south for a couple hundred years or so. The southern hunters have as much right to have the world hunt close to them as the northern hunters do. I didn't have the dog power to compete so I didn't even try. Hopefully next year will be different but the location of the hunt won't weight into my decision. Well I should say the coon population in the area won't weigh into my decision. The distance from me might. I can't travel 2000 miles for it. Like one of the previous posts said, bring the world hunt here to Eastern Kentucky, you'll be begging for Georgia the next year. Congrats to Bad Habit Sambo, he proved himself to be a world champion.

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Here are the facts from this hunt.

- 25 First round casts produced 17 winners to go on to Round 2.
- Out of those 17, 13 hounds treed a coon within 2 hours alone to advance to Round 3 on Friday.
- 3 of the 4 casts on Round 3 had a winner to advance to the final 3 on Saturday.

I don't see a problem. Would it had made everyone that is complaining happy if all first round casts had a winner ?
17 out of 25 is not bad at all. Especially for Georgia in late September.
None of the 8 First round casts that didnt produce a plus point cast winner , had a zero score for all dogs. Each of those casts had hounds with some minus which tells me they either quit barking once struck for more than 8 mins, quit a track and came in, left a tree once treed, or the 2 got them.
So, the coons were there and the opportunity was there.

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Maybe because no dogs lost in the swamp , no dogs eat by gators , no killer diller stories , no possum controversies I just feel robbed lol !

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It's hard to compare coonhunting to other sports but a good comparison is bass fishing.
A coonhunting world championship in Ohio, Indiana or Illinois is like the bassmasters classic in a huge heavily stocked pond where everybody gets a limit without a ton of skill but some are luckier than others on size.

Hunting in the south would be like the classic on a major waterway that's heavily fished where a lot of skill & work is needed just to catch fish and few will get a limit..

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Here are the facts from this hunt.

- 25 First round casts produced 17 winners to go on to Round 2.
- Out of those 17, 13 hounds treed a coon within 2 hours alone to advance to Round 3 on Friday.
- 3 of the 4 casts on Round 3 had a winner to advance to the final 3 on Saturday.

I don't see a problem. Would it had made everyone that is complaining happy if all first round casts had a winner ?
17 out of 25 is not bad at all. Especially for Georgia in late September.
None of the 8 First round casts that didnt produce a plus point cast winner , had a zero score for all dogs. Each of those casts had hounds with some minus which tells me they either quit barking once struck for more than 8 mins, quit a track and came in, left a tree once treed, or the 2 got them.
So, the coons were there and the opportunity was there.

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You boys should just save your breath. It'll be another 20 years before it comes back south again. We all know that! I was born and raised in the south and I don't buy the North vs. South thing about dogs being better. Few people own a real coondog. That's what this hunt proved! Nothing more, nothing less. The Sam dog treed a coon when he was cut loose. The others didn't! Sam wins! Everything else is just an excuse! Sorry for sharing my opinions Hoosier man! I know we should change the rules so you don't take your ball and go home! Hahaha give me a break!

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This is getting beat to death! Last year we hunted up north and I watched what everybody says and I have no doubt is a top hound from ga. Trail for 1 1/2 hrs and tree a tree they couldn't find a coon in while dogs from pa., mo., and wv. Scored 5 coon and a den! Nobody got on hear bashing southern dogs. Out of 104 dogs only 7 from ga.? From the way y'all are actin the final cast should have been loaded with Georgia dogs! Lol

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