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I believe the wizard of Oz dog is out of Alice. According to the post that was deleted, Alice will produce top dogs regardless of the dog or even breed of dog she is bred to, so Oz's sire is a moot issue.

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---------------Nt Ch Dryfork Blue Spud
------------Nt Ch Smokey River JBS Cheif
---------------Smokey River BB's J-Bell
---------Fch Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Vining Runnin Bullet
---------------Gr Nt Ch Coz' Spare Time Spanky
------------Gr Nt Ch Smokey River Crazy's Blue Fly
---------------Gr Nt Ch Rob's Crazy
------Gr Nt Ch Judges Smoky River Bandit
---------------Ch Nt Ch Triple D's Blue Ltl. Man
------------Nt Ch Ch Triple D's Blue Couch Tatar
---------------Ch Triple D's Blue Joyce
---------Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Foley's Smokey River Blue Joey
---------------Triple D & Bryant's Blue Ubu
------------Nt Ch Smokey River Grover's Blue Fly
---------------Nt Ch Triple D's Blue Checker
---Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Smoken Blue Magic
---------------Nt Ch Dryfork Blue Spud
------------Nt Ch Smokey River JBS Cheif
---------------Smokey River BB's J-Bell
---------Gr Ch Gr Nt Ch Smokey River Chiefs Bl Stormy
---------------Gr Nt Ch Kirby's Blue Spike
------------Ch Gr Nt Ch Ameling's Blue Misty
---------------Nt Ch Garbes' Cedar Ri. Cindy
------Gr Nt Ch Buffallo Creek To Tuf Betty
---------------Nt Ch Ch Illinois River Sport
------------Pattie's Blue Mike
---------------Mighty Blue Lou
---------Coats' Bawl Creek Blue Lucy
---------------Pattie's Howling Blue Hooch
------------Patties Blue Patsy
---------------Patties's Blue Babe
Nt Ch Nite-Time's Game Changing Blue
---------------Nt Ch Dryfork Blue Spud
------------Nt Ch Smokey River JBS Cheif
---------------Smokey River BB's J-Bell
---------FCH Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Vining Runnin Bullet
---------------Gr Nt Ch Coz' Spare Time Spanky
------------Gr Nt Ch Smokey River Crazys Blue Fly
---------------Gr Nt Ch Rob's Crazy
------Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Appels Blue Oak Bullet
---------------Gr Nt Ch Northern Blue Jet IV
------------Gr Nt Ch Northern Blue Jet V
---------------Nt Ch Hoosier C.C. Lady II
---------Jet V's Blue Candy
---------------Gr Nt Ch Coz' Spare Time Spanky
------------Indian's Blueridge Billy Blue
---------------Spare Time Spot
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------------FC Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Vining Runnin Bullet
---------------Gr Nt Ch Ch Smokey River Crazys Blue Fly
---------Gr Nt Ch Ch Bullet's Runnin Ratter
---------------Gr Nt Ch Northern Blue Jet V
------------Ch Turkey Creek Mandy II
---------------Nt Ch Turkey Creek Mandy
------Nt Ch Rattlers' Runnin Rose
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------------Ch Gr Nt Ch Uchtman's So. Blue Hornet
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------------Nt Ch Langan Bl Bell
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Anyone know pedigrees for the Molly B and Misty's Rose dogs?

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Molly B is out of Bullet ll

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Nt. Ch. Lovell's Coon Catching Blue Sally
Nt. Ch. Home Brew Blue Josie (Out of Gary Uchtman's Jobe and Sarah which is a Thorn female)
Gr. Nt. TP's Dizzy Dot (Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch. Razor Ridge Pop-A-Top)
Gr. Nt. Ch. Lovell's Smokey River Blue Ann (Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch. Coonbranch Blue Bandit)
Nt. Ch. Lovell's Smokey River Daisy (Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Twin Springs Blazin Bull)
Nt. Ch. Lovell's Smoken Blue Molly (Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch. Dillion's Smoken Blue Magic)
Gr. Nt. Lovell's Smokey River Snap (Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch. Jennings Blue Top Hank)
Gr. Nt. Smokey River Blue Molly (Gr. Nt. Ch. Nixon's Wolf Creek Geronimo)
Gr. Nt. Smokey River Blue Wahoo (Gr. Nt. Ch. Nixon's Wolf Creek Geronimo)
Gr. Nt. Davis White River Sugar (Nt. Ch. Smokey River JBs Chief)
Nt. Ch. Lovell's Katy Bar the Door (Gr. Nt. Ch. Nixon's Wolf Creek Geronimo)
Gr. Nt. Sky's Blue Bumble Bee (Gr. Nt. Ch. Northern Blue Jet 5)
Nt. Ch. Lovell's Coon Catchin' Katie (Nt. Ch. Bowden's Wolf Creek Smokey)
Gr. Nt. Washburn Valley Blue Drip ( Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch. Uchtman's So. Blue Hornet)
Gr. Nt. Stewart's Natural Okie Reb (Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch. Natural Smokey River Rebel)
Nt. Ch. Coon Catchin' Jim (Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch. Clear River Diamond Jim)

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I believe the wizard of Oz dog is out of Alice. According to the post that was deleted, Alice will produce top dogs regardless of the dog or even breed of dog she is bred to, so Oz's sire is a moot issue.

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Why the need to breed her to suck greatness if she'll reproduce off anything?

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[Piazon,don't think he was on the list when the cross was made,Echo Joe,not on the list has moved her up to where she is now and the Gauge cross will put her where one has never been in the bluetick breed. Danny G. [/B]

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I just looked at alices numbers and while they are good, they are actually just average and yawl have a LOOOONG ways to go to get to "where one has never been in the bluetick breed"

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Tree dogs are a dime a dozen today and that wasn't the case years ago. Although just because they tree, that doesn't mean they can finish to a top hound. It DOES mean if you put a decent handler on one, they can make them a NiteCh. And there you have it...tree power+ decent handler = nite hunt titles and Ol Wondermutt's numbers go up. I'm not saying all of them are that way, but this is how easy you can drive numbers up with tree dogs that will stay treed.

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Ritchie, you just hit the nail on the head! Very true statements here!

I've got an old potlicker out back that is a dead on representation of what you describe. He finished to Nt. Ch. by the simple virtue he was a stay put pressure tree dog. I could have hauled him to more local hunts & probably finished him to Gr. Nt. Ch., again by the same simple virtue that he would split & hold pressure. I chose not to because bottom line, the dog is very common when it comes to coon treeing ability.

He had above average speed on a running track, was a quick one bark locator off a running track, & once hooked would stay put no matter how close a hound was running or treeing next to him.

The down sides are he is a close to medium hunter by himself (lacks the giddy up), has a below average mouth, common accuracy, lacks speed & decisive locating on older tracks, & is not a layup dog.

I have treed a pile of these woodlot coon with the old potlicker over the years & have enjoyed many hunts with him, but those things still don't change the facts, the cold hard truth that he is just common.

I guess with all this rambling what I'm trying to spit out is that even though a hound may be common, it sure doesn't mean there isn't a place for them where they can be hunted & enjoyed in spite of their faults. On the flip side & to Ritchie's point, a Nt. Ch. title on a common hound sure doesn't warrant being bragged on either

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Nt Ch Fanny's Midnite Blue Annie - aka Sodie Pop R.I.P. - I will miss you old girl

Nt Ch Becky’s Midnite Blue Hank - R.I.P. Old Boy, thank you for the memories

Gr Nt Ch S&E's Midnite Lite Blue Snow (Co-Owned with my good friend Harry Eidenier) - We had a blast following you ole girl!

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great post men

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I guess with all this rambling what I'm trying to spit out is that even though a hound may be common, it sure doesn't mean there isn't a place for them where they can be hunted & enjoyed in spite of their faults. On the flip side & to Ritchie's point, a Nt. Ch. title on a common hound sure doesn't warrant being bragged on either

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I enjoyed your post Vic!

Most hunters are not as honest as you and that is a fact. It is hard to get a hunter to admit his dog's faults and shortcomings. I have never understood this. They are just dogs. They all have holes. I also agree that they don't have to be a super dog to be an enjoyable companion on a coonhunt! One man's trash is another's treasure. What I really like, some would absolutely hate. What I couldn't live with is another man's cherished companion. Terrain and a hunter's age can sure change the style you prefer.

If you are going to brag on one, they need to be in Charlie Manson's class...

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what i want to know why does it take a trainor suposidly better than wick to start a puppy that is from a suposidly world class reproducing female? an then once they need some serious training ship them off to someone else? dont seem to add up to me

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what i want to know why does it take a trainor suposidly better than wick to start a puppy that is from a suposidly world class reproducing female? an then once they need some serious training ship them off to someone else? dont seem to add up to me

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I believe you are both a bit confused! 4Play,I know for sure you are because you don't have a clue what the numbers ????? are so when I get home from the bussiness,I'll explain to both! Have a good day,Danny G.

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I'm gonna start with you first! If you don't know the facts keep your words to yourself because you have no clue as to the numbers. What you stated is nothing more than hearsay! When you know the facts,feel free to post it and until then,PLEASE keep your mouth shut and do us all a favor! If your thinking your hiding behind that 4Play name,wrong!! I know who you are! Now,when I get done with taking care of the hounds,Rance I'm gonna shoot some facts to you! Till then,Danny G.

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Go easy Leonard

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Don't worry,I'll try and not be to hard on you!! LOL!! Gonna take a quick shower first!! Danny G.

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Folks this is the arrogance we are dealing with. I have a hard time stomaching it

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Danny Glista wrote on 04-29-2008 02:00 AM:
rance56, Jet 9 was destind to be shot at 5 months old!! Very shy and mean according to Larry Harvey who I gave the pup to! He owned his grandma!! Brandy!! Now if you think you know more than I do. I suggest you give me a call and I'll tell all that I know!! Ed Mead has raised some nice hounds~!NO DOUBT!! If it wasn't for me his name may well by now be forgotten!! I'm done with the ******** on this board for now! Gauge is by far the better Jet bred hound that is living out of Jet 8!! That's all I have to say!! Maybe we can go hunting some night!! Where do you live?? Thanks, Danny G.

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Talk about not knowing facts!!
I call b.s at least 4x's in that rant!
Notice the time sent ....2am

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I hope this thread doesn't get deleted before Danny gets out of the shower. Lol

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"If is wasn't for me, his name may well by now be forgotten!"

Don't think that is going to happen anytime soon. He has forgotten more about breeding and training tree dogs than most of us will ever hope to know.

I have not seen where he has used ol Wondermutt in his breeding program though... Kind of makes you think huh?

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