Registered: Jun 2003
Location:
Posts: 1586

quote:

---

Originally posted by patches9452
again since you win so much like it is why change it

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 188

Getting beat by a me 2 dog happens but if you got a dog that hustles and trees coons you shouldn't have to worry About it cause you will win more than lose but why would you Want a me 2 dog? Be a leader not a follower... Most people honestly don't know what a coon dog is maybe if they changed the rule it would help people to see... Maybe not but as a young kid I used to look at the pages of the Ukc bloodlines star eyed thinking Boy I wish I had one of those or a Pup off him he's in the Magazine... As i got older And hunted with some of those dogs and then got into pkc i was crushed those dreams i had been chasing was a joke... You know how many Grnites I've hunted with that wasn't worth a bullet to blow there brains out with? I can't count them all!!!!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Moncks Corner, South Carolina
Posts: 1814

If no dog ever treed with another dog, how many continuous acres of land would be required to guide a cast in an area that doesn't have a high coon population. How long before this sport is extinct due to not having enough land to guide a cast on due to tresspassing, getting shot at, etc....

When you send 4 dogs in one direction and they end up treed in 4 different directions you are asking for trouble. We may get away with alot of stuff because we hunt in the night, but with game cameras getting so cheap, I fear that one day soon that will no longer be the case. You see, there is more to consider than most will admit.

__________________
Kenny's Allnite Black and Tans
Moncks Corner, SC
843-697-5889
ChNtCh Allnite Gypsy Girl

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Springfield, Ga.
Posts: 4254

any change would have to get approval of the 7 breed associations, and that is not real likely. As for me, leave it alone. If i decide i want to count down this week, i have plenty of other KC hunts i can attend. Differences does spice it up.

now if ukc would start up Money hunts during the week, i might be in favor of the countdown being placed into those rules as a change of flavor so to speak. don't think i have to worry to much about a flavor change either.

__________________
Robert " Rock" Johnson

Johnson Creek Kennels
home of:
UKC Grand Nite Champion "PR" Yadkin River Addkis. Deceased 12/11/2016 RIP

2009/2010/2011/2012 AKC GA. State Leader and Supreme Grand Nite Champion Yadkin River Addkis

2010 ACHA Georgia State Champion Grand Nite Champion Yadkin River Addkis

PKC Champion Yadkin River Addkis

Bright Eye Lights


Treeing Walkers

912-663-5287 cell (perfered)

Last edited by Robert Johnson on 03-08-2013 at 06:41 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 188

Pkc dogs are split 4 ways ALOTand I'm willing to bet in the last year I've hunt on twice the cast you have and it's not been a problem

If you don't have enough land for dogs to split you have no business guiding that's why dogs end up killed

Last edited by CJ THOMAS on 03-07-2013 at 04:49 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Moncks Corner, South Carolina
Posts: 1814

You guys really want to reward the fast efficient coon dog, let's have 1 set of tree points per drop. That way old run as fast as I can a mile away doesn't get rewarded a 1st tree for passing up coons.

__________________
Kenny's Allnite Black and Tans
Moncks Corner, SC
843-697-5889
ChNtCh Allnite Gypsy Girl

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 188

Wouldnt matter the dog deep would leash lock the close dog and usually the dog that hustles and is deep by himself will have more coons than slicks and if He hustles He will Be treed before most of Junk today

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 1885

SOME PEOPLE'S CHILDREN IS ALL I CAN SAY... THE IGNORANCE OF SOME NEVER FAILS TO AMAZE ME!!!

__________________
Brandon & Rebecca Coselman
North Bend Puppy Pen
(989) 506-0169

Home of: 2017 Grand Masters Invitational Champion, 2016 & 2017 Michigan PKC State Champion HOF PCH GRNITECH Mr Clean's Snooki
&
2022 Senior SS Reserve Champion PCH GRNITECH Snooki's Jwoww

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 188

Lol true that and you can't convince the water heads no different they have to figure it out and see it on there own

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2012
Location: SMALL TOWN, USA
Posts: 274

If i got a dog that cant 1st tree by him or herself i any hunt put in i will leave them in the. Wds with no collar.it shouldnt take a dog 4 min later to tree a freakin coon if it does i wont hunt the junk.piss on me too ing idiots

__________________
Go deep and accurate with style

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location:
Posts: 1586

quote:

---

Originally posted by HardcoreKennels
SOME PEOPLE'S CHILDREN IS ALL I CAN SAY... THE IGNORANCE OF SOME NEVER FAILS TO AMAZE ME!!!

---

Come on Coz!!!! You know you love a good me too dog!!!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: ackerman,ms
Posts: 2229

quote:

---

Originally posted by CJ THOMAS
Why not?

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: ackerman,ms
Posts: 2229

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nat Thomas
Because the whole point of Coonhunting is to progress and breed dogs that are better than the last ones and that simply won't happen with a mentality like yours. Covering a dog after 4 minutes is not ok. It's not worth the same as getting beat on the tree by a few seconds, it's a fault and its a fault that a dog needs culled for if it happens very often or it can't be broke. If you honestly think its ok then I will go out on a limb here and say that your version of a Coondog would be comical to many.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 188

quote:

---

Originally posted by pat
if she hasnt covered before then i will take what she has coming

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 188

The next poll should read.... If you don't know the rules should you be Entitled to post on this thread

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: ackerman,ms
Posts: 2229

quote:

---

Originally posted by CJ THOMAS
Lol but in Ukc you will take next available position anyway lol... Rule states dogs treeing but not declared treed when judge arrives will take next available position and minusesd on off game and slick tree... And if the coon is seen your minused your strike either way your me dog is screwed if you don't tree it lol

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2011
Location: Aldrich Missouri
Posts: 395

quote:

---

Originally posted by CJ THOMAS
The next poll should read.... If you don't know the rules should you be Entitled to post on this thread

---

__________________
CHKC WLDCH GRNITECH 'PR' FISHCREEKS MAINSTREET MASA
NATGRNITECH REAL TIME LACY aka HOPE
GRNITECH SHOCK STYLE DYNAMITE
GRCH GRNITECH SHOCK STYLE RACHET ... (The loudest Plott Alive) high scoring dog Friday night plott days 2016 high scoring plott dog Saturday night 2016. 2016 world hunt qualifier.
2016 Top 100
2016 Oklahoma State Champion
2016 Purina Breed Race Winner
2017 World Hunt Qualifier

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2013
Location: Lexington N.C.
Posts: 11

Ok been reading these posts, and all the folks saying that rules need to be changed because of dogs coming into the tree late.... I dont understand are yall still getting beat by these dogs? If so thats pretty pathetic!!! And If not why would you change anything? It makes absolutly no since if you still end up with the cast win!!!!!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, MN
Posts: 4236

Why do these rule discussions always regress into "If your not for this rule change, you must be hunting junk."?

There are other registrys with a coundown, if it was the be-all-end-all some of you claim, you should be cleaning up at those hunts.

I could really care less, My dog will get its share of first trees.....And when it covers yours, I can lay back and only eat 25 on your slick.

__________________
Bad decisions make good stories.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Western Pa
Posts: 3377

quote:

---

Originally posted by K. Singletary
If no dog ever treed with another dog, how many continuous acres of land would be required to guide a cast in an area that doesn't have a high coon population. How long before this sport is extinct due to not having enough land to guide a cast on due to tresspassing, getting shot at, etc....

When you send 4 dogs in one direction and they end up treed in 4 different directions you are asking for trouble. We may get away with alot of stuff because we hunt in the night, but with game cameras getting so cheap, I fear that one day soon that will no longer be the case. You see, there is more to consider than most will admit.

---

__________________
OAKS POINT KENNELS

HOME OF

PKC CH GRNITECH GRCH 'PR' OAKS POINT COON BUSTIN' BELLE HTX 2013 UKC Top 100 (May 2006-January 2017)

'PR' OAKS POINT STRIKE-EM OUT BEAU (May 2006-June 2016)

PKC CH NITECH GRCH 'PR' COON BUSTIN' WHITE STUFF

CH 'PR' GOLD RUSH EXPO

'PR' BLACK KNIGHT'S BALU JETTA (May 2013-October 2015)

CH 'PR' CHERRY CREEK XBOX 2016 Treeing Walker Days King of Show

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2008
Location:
Posts: 3550

my opinion . i think the ones that dont want a count down r packing meto idiots. we c enough of that type of hounds in a ukc hunt. ukc needs a count down .

__________________
MANIAC MY NAME HUNTING MY GAME!!
MANIAC BLOOD ROCKS!! WHERE THE TRACK POWER IS!!

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy24/maniacjr4/SAM_0522.jpg

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/1619.jpg

IF YOU WANT TO PACK HUNT
BUY YOU A PAIR BEAGLES!


GR NITE CH. HARWOODMANIAC JR 4 # 2 TOP 100 UKC WORLD 2013 OWNER JAY HYDE & DAVID DEPEW




GRNITE CH Hoghill Harwood Kasper
owners Hyde Warlick Leatherman
Qualified for 2013 world Hhunt
OWNER HYDE & WARLICK LEATHERMAN. MY PH 574 306 8438
K-LIGHTS ph.936 767 4965
http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy24/maniacjr4/SAM_0734.jpg

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 188

If you want to Pack hunt buy beagles.... That's great!!....

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Strasburg Mo.
Posts: 204

EVERY other registry has a count down. ACHA PKC AKC CHKC all have a countdown of some form. I am for it because i see more good things about it than bad. It will pass sooner or later we just might have to wait till some of the old timers die off who don't want any change to get it done.

__________________
Home of:
GRNTCH Sni Valley Slammer (RIP)
GRNTCH PKC CH Sni Valley Queen (RIP)
GRNTCH PKC CH Maniac Molly
NITECH PKC CH BlackJack Karma

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, MN
Posts: 4236

I guess your either hunting "Deep and Lonely" or "a me too POS"


No middle ground to be had....

Maybe I am old, I just want a dog to tree a coon as fast as possible.

__________________
Bad decisions make good stories.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Moncks Corner, South Carolina
Posts: 1814

quote:

---

Originally posted by jculler8
I hunted the zones in 2010. We had a 4 dog cast. In 2 hours we scored 12 trees... Not one time was there more than 1 dog on a tree at 1 time.

It was some of the best and most fun hunting I've ever had in a UKC event.

In PKC, you see that kind of stuff all of the time. It's not a 1 time thing. Those hunts tend to be more fun for me.

My dog vs. yours. Whoever has the meat at the end the most times wins. Sounds pretty simple, stupid!

---

__________________
Kenny's Allnite Black and Tans
Moncks Corner, SC
843-697-5889
ChNtCh Allnite Gypsy Girl

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged