VaBirdDog
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Maybe the reason I’m "getting it" now is that we are looking at a 180 view of where this thread started off. We are now listening to someone that is describing the desire to again produce a hound themed outdoor show, not a televised night hunt tournament series that has a rebuilt/revised registry comparable to Bass....
"Why not film major hunts? Because at the end of the day the participants of the final four of those major hunts don't want the "distraction" of having cameras in their face. It costs money to take a television production down the road and spend two or three days filming. And then to be at the mercy of the finalist of the competition as to "IF" we actually have footage for an episode....pretty risky."
One of the very points that I have tried to make over and over again about the difference in BASS and using the same format in coonhunting. Not even being able to film a major hunt (tournament - BASS) would make for a pretty different format than BASS or at least I would think?
"Have you priced a leopard hunt lately? We have had offers of folks all over the world to "come hunting with them"...and yes, if one of us had a desire to travel to Africa and kill a leopard over hounds, certainly there is an outfitter that would LOVE to have us come, and would guide us at no cost to us....but that doesn't mean that the hunt would be "free". I just checked, and air fare alone would be well over $6,000.00. If you included all of the other expenses incurred, it would be in the neighborhood of a $50,000 trip! (An all expenses paid leopard hunt including the trophy fee) If you know of anyone wanting to throw that kind of money at us to go on a leopard hunt...let me know...I'm up for the challenge!"
I have priced one recently and I have been to Africa several times and each trip has been the hunt of a lifetime. I have killed my fill of plains game and was working on the big 5 until life and two young boys came into the picture for me. Hopefully once they're grown I can get back to it with them tagging along! That being said I would love to see someone else kill "their" leopard over hounds because even though I love hunting over hounds that is one time that I would rather work on setting baits and watch the Cat come in on it's own accord. Want to milk that 50-60K for all its worth LOL It is doable because I have seen it televised before. But again this is what sponsors are for. And I would think producing a television program would be more driven by the viewer's desires instead of what your personal desires were. I mean ultimatly it comes down to what sells right?
"I don't buy into the "monopoly" analysis. Exposure creates it's own competition. Agreed, at this point, say Garmin, has the corner on the market for tracking systems. That wasn't the case a few years ago....but Garmin saw a niche, not in the coon hunting world by the way, and they took some existing technology that they already had...(Garmin Rhino radio) and altered it to fit on a dog....Bingo Bango you have the Garmin Astro. I know of one other company that already makes a GPS tracker/shocker system, and yet another that is in the development stage."
You may be right about this but if you were to stop the presses right now, who would be on top? You can't get sponsorship from a company that is just being developed and not even marketed yet. And the other GPS tracking collar available is virtually unknown when put up against the Garmon GPS....
"For the last four years, Dave and I have poured our heart and soul into promoting our sport in the best light that we could. Thousands of hours of research and development, on mastering a learning curve, and of doing something that everyone "in the business" of outdoor television told us "couldn't be done".... And in some cases we paid out of our own pockets to make it happen...not to be "patted on the back", but to gain the satisfaction that we did it, and we were able to entertain a few folks along the way."
It shows that you guys put a lot of work into your program and company I don’t doubt that for a second and I congratulate you on that!
"We now have a unique offering from a major network...to bring the sport of hounds and tree dogs to the forefront, and to put a positive spin on it. To educate some deer hunter that has a mental image of coon hunters, to offset some of the non factual "spin" created by rank and file deer hunt shows about the impact to deer hunting that night hunting supposedly has. And that opportunity also brings to the table national notoriety and advertising, public service announcements etc. for the registry. No coon hound or tree dog registry has ever been featured on national TV, or for that matter at the SHOT (sporting, hunting, outdoor trade) show held each year....This is the kind of recognition that we are in a position to offer...."
Sounds like you have a great opportunity and that if you play your cards right you will succeed and I hope you do! Again I would like to watch more hound themed TV shows!
"This whole post was meant to bring to light that there is a lot to be gained from coverage of our chosen sport, and the capitolization of this new and unique opportunity. To bring attention to our sport as being no different at its core, than many other sports that are wildly successful. What it turned into was bashing Dave, and poking holes in coon hunters, coon hunting, and the registry....."
I never bashed Dave or your company; I never poked holes into coon hunters, coon hunting or any registry. I am a coon hunter and have been for the majority of my life! A question was asked and people's opinions were given. By me or anyone else speaking of issues that are already in existence and have been for years we are not the creators of those issues. And if the question is, what makes one sport and it's participants different than another, and those very issues are part of the difference than yes that is part of how I would answer the question... Why ask a question then when people do their best to answer that question as they have understood it and it was worded, do you tell them their point of view is basically irrelevant? And in the same sense you say someone has been bashed I could say those whose view's were shared but happened to be different than what was wanted for exposure were themselves bashed for their opinions!!
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