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JESUS made a way so you wouldn't have to go to hell. Accept his sacrifice. His redemption. People go to hell because they dont want GOD, not because GOD does not want them. I dont know how long you have been on this message board but many on here may remember me from many years ago. I got started coonhunting in 1995, got started looking at this message board around 2002 or 2001 or some thing like that. GOD, convicted me of my sins and changed my heart and I removed the idols from my life and put him first and he changed my life. Changed my heart. Transformed me. I cried out to GOD with a humble heart and he showed up ! Here is a list of answered prayers and transformations from GOD.......

1. I love GOD and he is # 1.

2. I love my wife and she loves me and Im not addicted to porn anymore. By the precious blood of JESUS the bondage of sin is gone and the slavery of sin is gone and my shame is gone. As Nebuchadnezzer did, "i lifted up my eyes to heaven and my senses returned to me".

3. I lost 54 pounds. By GOD's grace and help Im not addicted to food anymore and its not an Idol in my life anymore.

4. I dont hate myself or hate other people anymore. Ask ANYONE who used to visit this message board years ago how i used to talk and what my overall attitude was from day to day. Ask them. Go ahead. I LOVE EVERYONE and I no longer sit up all night long on this message trying to stir up trouble and cause problems and argue and fuss and make myself look smart the way i did for years and years. My whole heart, mind, and attitude has been transformed from the inside out.


5. I have a full time job which I enjoy and I am now the trainer at work who trains the new hires. I'm not lazy anymore. I used to go from job to job and when I got layed off I wouldn't even look for work. I would sit on the couch and eat all day and night and not even think about finding a job for months and months. I care now and GOD has transformed my mind and heart.

GOD gets ALL the glory for every single change in my life. Everything. I got saved and accepted JESUS when I was 15 years old but I went through many years where I put GOD on the back burner and I slowly brought idols into my life and I drifted far far out into sin and bitterness and hate and depression. I came back to GOD and cried out for help and he rescued me !! Oh yeah, thats another thing, Im not on depression medicine anymore. JESUS LOVES YOU AND HE CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE TOO !!!!!!!!!!!

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HP one last time.I dont believe prayer works.I dont believe god is in control of every thing. I did not respond on this thread to"stir the pot"
Sheep,good for you,if believin all this helped you thats great. However no one has given an example of a prayer being answered by god and not for some other reason(JMO) And sheep dont know if you have kids or not but if so and one "didnt believe you were their father" would you condemn them to hell?Answer honestly!

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proper disscussion? all I see is talk in circles no true answers.Typical "thumper"responses . YOu show me a true blue miricale from god,something that could not have been answered any other way.Then I'll respond to you.YOu tryin to catch me/twist my opinion around does not impress me.

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Those of us who proclaim to be Christian, have already done your duty to evangelize Bear! He has heard the word of GOD, and has chosen to reject Our Lord and Savior, at this time. We can only pray for him, and the millions who differ from us. Remember, "many will be called, but few will be chosen".

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Sam, also I want to caution you about asking God for a miracle that you need answered in your life.


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no where have I stated I asked for a miracle.

no offense taken at all.



dbprofitt56,no where in this post have I said I reject.My statement was and is I do not believe prayer works or that GOD (happy T ) speaks to people.

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Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
1) What then, did you ask for, if not a miracle?

2) Help me understand what you mean by prayers "working" or "not working".

3) It has already been established that you believe in God, yet you seem to struggle with God's interaction with man (speaking to man, answering prayers, etc.). How then, does God reveal Himself to man? How did He reveal Himself to you?

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YOU CANT DISCUSE SPIRITUAL THINGS WITH NONE SPIRITUAL PEOPLE

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I know this....when you have reached rock bottom and the only way to look is up then God has something to work with. I know this from experience...we all have a free will and HE will not impeded on that. He wants to be your king and answer to all your problems, but you have to take that first step.
I know it makes no logical sense. I am a logical person. almost like from Missiouri... I have to see it to believe it. But that is not how God works. You have to believe by faith and then he shows up to show who he is.
I was a total wreck in 09. I was a self made man and needed no one and could do anything any other man on this planet could do. I can build a house from the foundation to the shingles, I can skin a buck and run a trot line, but I could not control grown kids who went slap crazy or fix the many, many scars I received from my childhood on from a drunk wife beating step father to broken hearts and dreams. I had cancer, lost my leg, my wife left me and I lost my job, my home and my truck all in 8 weeks.

Lost my mother and a great step dad all in a few months.
I had pretty much hit rock bottom and I just couldnt take it any more. taking my life seemed the easiest and best route to go. My thought was if this is as good as it gets, I want off!period...But Jesus......

I got on my knees and asked God to take control of my life and that I had made a mess of my life. I kicked in every door I thought I deserved.
God slowly little by little rebuilt my life. He has truly spoken to me, touched me, showed me wisdom. brought me the respect of my wife, my family, my community, my church and given me more great quality friends than I could ever imagine. He has blessed me so many ways it is rediculous. You have to experience it to understand it.
The biggest this is Peace. I have a peace you cant put into words. I never slept a peaceful night in my entire life until after I gave it all up and surrendered to God.
I pray you find that place before it is too late where you can experience the love of Jesus.
It would be hard for you to believe the miracles I have seen with my own eyes. I know this. Only me and God knew some of these needs I asked him for, not even my wife and God came through time after time after time. I have no reason to lie. I have proof through my life. I am a living example of a miracle.
I was a walking dead man, now I am a man full of love, hope, peace and joy.

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1 none of your buissness

2 work/answered, not work/not answered.pretty black and white

3 he dosnt and hasnt

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1) Fair enough. But you did ask, right?

2) A prayer is not a magic spell that either works or doesn't. Prayer is simply talking to God. While petition is often a part of praying, God is not some cosmic Santa Clause for us to give a wish list. God answers prayer in many ways, and on His time. Often we miss or misinterpret His answers simply because we have placed our own preconcieved notions on the situation.

3) How can you possibly believe in God if He hasn't revealed Himself? Perhaps you simply are against the evolutionary explanation of man descending from apes? Could being the creation of an unloving, powerless, non relational God possibly be worse than having a monkey in your family tree?

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Mr.bear,the best way to deal with people that wanna force their beliefs on ya is to wait and watch their post, this alway tell the tale of a true bible thumper. They can't call out their own but are always ready and willing to call you out and most of them are readers,memorizers, and hypocrites. Follow the post,they can't hide. lol!

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Track, I didn't see one person forcing something on him. bear asked questions, I see people trying to offer some help, experience, and hope.

Also, you can go back on some of my posts, and you will see things that I have said that I have been ashamed of. The bottom line is we all have things we are and should be ashamed of. Who we should look at and try to emulate, follow after and live like, is Jesus. As a man, he did show us how to live. The bible tells us he was tempted in every way and manner that we have been, yet He did not sin. I am a poor example of a man. It is only through Christ that I am perfect. Any imperfection that you see in me, is my carnality. I hate that part of me, I constantly struggle against it. We all do. Not an excuse, but reality. I am not yet complete in my salvation. Daily working out my salvation with fear and trembling.

It took me a long time to understand that scripture. Now I not only understand it, but I am living it. There will come a day, I will draw my last breath, and my salvation will be complete. It is never complete until that day. Until that day, we will struggle, we will fall. I will continue to repent.


God called David "a man after his own heart". Ever wonder why? I am sure that David was a man much like a lot of us in many different ways. Had there been a message board like this back then, we may have seen a side of David that many have not read about. One thing remains constant, the reason David was a man after God's own heart was, simply, David repented. Always. it is written that not only did he repent, he asked fervently that God would "create in him, a clean heart" "Give him clean hands" and not "forsake him" David was a man after God's own heart, because he repented (changed his way of thinking and living, and strove not to repeat the activity that was found to be sin, as he knew it, in God's mind.


Repentance is not something that is done once and then its over. Repentance should happen daily. And for me, even more often. I thank God for the Holy Spirit, and I often pray that God will help me control any carnality that crops up. The bottom line is I make bad choices at times, and have been ashamed of them. Repent, Ask Forgiveness, and Live. It is the same model we are all called to live.

Again, don't look to man as a mold or template for how to live, look to God, who came to earth as a man, stepping down out of glory, into the shell, the frailty of man, to show us how to live.

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See,that didn't take long!! T.Beyer,Good post but most don't follow your shining example! This last pres.election brought out the worst in some so called christians. This election let me know what people at these coon hunts think about me not just the pres.,not trying to change the topic but we all stuggle with short comings everyday but we must try.....!!!

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do you have enough faith to believe that God knows what is going on?

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anything out but the truth....most of the united states, the majority are Godless...including our president, vice president, nancy pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, the idol worshipers that got voted into the congress, and the list goes on.
I take a stand for Godly principles and will fight till the last breath I draw. I believe in God and have witnessed him first hand in my life. He is real and everyone that opposes him will stand before him in Judgement.
Christianity isnt for mambe pambe do gooders. It is for the strong of heart that trust in Jesus and allow him to run their lives.
The book of Mathew quotes Jesus when he said" Since the days of John the baptist, the Kingdom of Heaven has sufered violence and the violent take it by force"!!

I will stand with sword (the word of God) in hand and defend it against the Godless. If you want to stand on that side, so be it. God said you are either for me or against me. There is no middle ground. Our country has made a statement starting with the president and every single member of the democratic party. You dont want anything to do with God. We get it. How's that working for you guys. You can see that you dont have any peace and I bet most of you and them dont sleep very well at night. To say you do is a lie. It goes against what the scriptures says you are. I was once like yall and my life on the outside might have looked just fine, but I knew what was really going on in my heart.
the problem with you and those like you, is the Bible is a mirror and you dont want to look into it. neither does the president and his horde. You know why they fight biblical principles, cause it forces you to admit what is really in your heart.
As long as you can enforce laws against christian values and principles, you can ride the train a little longer. there will be a day my friend and it is just around the corner and Mr Barack Hussein Obama will stand before God and give an account of the beliefs he has helped push into law in this country.
God Judged Sodom and Gomarah and we are fixing to reap the whirlwind and you will not be able to escape it.
The real sad thing about all of this is God loves you so much and you are will to public make a stand against him by slandering his children. Jesus and God called a spade a spade, there are tens of thousands of scriptures where they both called out folks like this and they made it very clear what the outcome will be. An eternity in Hell where there will be total isolation and the canker worm never dies.
Are yall really willing to take a chance like that?

Our president and his entire clan will burn in everlasting hell and that my friend is the absolute truth and word of God.

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proper disscussion? all I see is talk in circles no true answers.Typical "thumper"responses . YOu show me a true blue miricale from god,something that could not have been answered any other way.Then I'll respond to you.YOu tryin to catch me/twist my opinion around does not impress me.

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decided the rest of what I posted would just piss to many of the thumpers off.

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"that we serve a Just God. "Mercy"- not givin' us what we deserve. "Grace"- givin' us what we don't deserve. "

Ive never read a more assinine statement in my life.


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you need to get out of the middle of nowhere and come back to reality if you dont have any belive that god can answer prayers"

And just what reality you livin in?


Im done with this!!!

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"that we serve a Just God. "Mercy"- not givin' us what we deserve. "Grace"- givin' us what we don't deserve. "

Ive never read a more assinine statement in my life.


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you need to get out of the middle of nowhere and come back to reality if you dont have any belive that god can answer prayers"

And just what reality you livin in?


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Yes sir cripple creek,just read the post of people claiming to be christians. Notice your post only named dems.,no repubs. Once again using that which is holy for your own propaganda. Readers,memorizers,and hypocrites who worships their own selfish needs!!! Idol worship!!

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I know this. The democratic party makes no beef about it that they want laws that deny morality. Just let me be and do what I want and give me something while I am doing nothing.

You have to be really proud to associate with that clan.
Being christian isnt divided by rep. or dem. but the democrats have made it a point in life to defy God. At least the republican party believes in Not killing 58 million babies like the dems. They dont believe in two homosexuals marrying.
and believe that you can sit on your butt and draw a paycheck for no reason.
Tell us all you agree with all of that...all of it. You cant just pick and chose what you want to agree with and deny the rest.

You will stand before God and you will fall on your face before a Holy God and give an account of your life. Are you that brave or that foolish?
Just deny he exists wont help you the day you stand before him.
I have met him face to face and talk to him daily. He has shown himself to me in so many ways i cant count them all.
So I know there is a God and everything I have read in the bible has shown itself as well. thats how I know its real. Dude I had to see it before I could believe it. when I saw it I knew there was a God. So when I read that if I dont accept him what my eternity will look like vs what my eternity will look like b y accepting him. Even a fool couldnt pass that up.

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I know this. The democratic party makes no beef about it that they want laws that deny morality. Just let me be and do what I want and give me something while I am doing nothing.

You have to be really proud to associate with that clan.
Being christian isnt divided by rep. or dem. but the democrats have made it a point in life to defy God. At least the republican party believes in Not killing 58 million babies like the dems. They dont believe in two homosexuals marrying.
and believe that you can sit on your butt and draw a paycheck for no reason.
Tell us all you agree with all of that...all of it. You cant just pick and chose what you want to agree with and deny the rest.

You will stand before God and you will fall on your face before a Holy God and give an account of your life. Are you that brave or that foolish?
Just deny he exists wont help you the day you stand before him.
I have met him face to face and talk to him daily. He has shown himself to me in so many ways i cant count them all.
So I know there is a God and everything I have read in the bible has shown itself as well. thats how I know its real. Dude I had to see it before I could believe it. when I saw it I knew there was a God. So when I read that if I dont accept him what my eternity will look like vs what my eternity will look like b y accepting him. Even a fool couldnt pass that up.

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What's the difference when your party practices this behind close doors and your still blind enough that you CAN'T AND WON'T call them out. So you pickout what you're passionate about and throw the rest in the garbage? Will you be judged? What you're said is dems are not hypocirtes becasue they don't hide behind closed doors? ARE YOU GOD? WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO JUDGE?

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I am forgiven. All my sins have been forgiven me. there is nothing I can do that can seperate me from God once I accept Jesus as my lord and savior.
I know this is hard to understand ,but its why Jesus died for us because God knew man and knew we would never do what was right so there had to be a sacrifice made for me and you. all I had to do was accept it.
I am not a republican and I dont like the majority of politicians period.
But the Democrats have a platform that absolutely defys God to his face. they are open about it. period. No ifs ands or buts about it. That is what gets into my craw.

As a christian, it concerns me that democrats have recently voted in a couple of Gay politicain in gov. a Hindu and a buddhist and 4 states voted to support gay agenda issues, voted in illegal drugs in two states and that Obama will probably appoint two if not three supreme court justices that all oppose christian values. that means these people will write up laws, support laws and vote for laws that are totally opposite of moral issues.
It is actually in your favor if we have moral laws. Your family will actually benefit from it. Do you want to explain to your children or grandchildren why is it ok for Transgender men to dress up like women and work in a Mcdonalds and then go to the bathroom while your daughter or grand daughter is in there by herself?
They are trying as we speak to get these laws passed right now.
How can this not bother you. It is almost unhuman to not say this doesnt bother you. I can say this...it will be a cold day in hell before a republican ever voted for something like that.
go to youtube and just key in Obamas party for LGBT....thats lesbians, gays, bi-sexuals and transgenders. He says straight out he will do everything in his power to make sure that they are protected and that they are supported in marriage and all other ways.
He had this party for them in the whitehouse.
Track...come on. I know you are married to the democratic party and for what reason other than maybe your a union worker or something.
Stop blaming bush or other republicans or just making excuses....just tell me why non of the stuff I mentioned that the democratic party and this president believe in does not bother you and tell me right here that having a transgender in the bathroom with either your son or daughter or grandchild does not bother you.

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