thecoondawg76
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Originally posted by deschmidt27
I'm not sure if it's the type of dog I hunt, or the type of hunting I'm accustomed to, but there seems to be a huge disconnect between what I envision taking place in the woods, and what I see people eluding to on these posts... this thread and others.
What I see in the hunts, is four high-strung independent coon dogs, that leave us like a rocket and by the time they get out and away from us, are usually heading in different directions.
One of them finds a track first, and even if the others were inclined to join in on it (many around here would not) they have to now get to the part of the woods that dog is located (could be 100s of yards away) and join in. And by then, the coon may be treed already.
So if you are OK with judging dogs on just one coon, then you must be OK with:
- dogs me-tooing
- the fact that the first strike dog simply, by random chance was the first to encounter a coon track
- and that if the others didn't have their nose up that one's rear end, they have to hurry up and cut across the woods to join in, to get a piece of the tree.
Or... you don't want me-too dogs, and you want a dog capable of treeing a coon without help, and therefore there's a necessity of two coon to be in the same region as one another, hopefully in ear-shot, so you don't have to call time-out before someone trees, because dogs are heading in opposite directions!
I also assume that not every track starts at the coon's tail, so more often than not, your dog is going to cut a track that is quite old, and will take some time to figure out. And then, if it's the only track in the woods, you have the problems I stated above. Or... you stack the odds in your favor, and cut your dog in a woods with a lot of coon and tracks, and increase your odds of a dog cutting a track that is hot, or finding one on the way.
Now I can hear, those folks saying, "I want my dog to finish the track they started, not leaving for a hotter one!" and to those people, I must ask, have you ever watched coon??? I often see them from my tree stand, in the early morning hours. In fact I watched two, not that long ago... those two coon wandered all over the place, this way and that and back again. Often times they crossed their own tracks, as well as each others, as they made it through the woods. So I really struggle with the concept that a dog should guarantee that they finish the exact track they start... unless of course, your coon are miles apart, then they really don't have a choice!
David Schmidt
Sounds like you are figuring it out. You want something that likes to get by itself and will if it can but if something else has something going before it does then it will back it. They also need to be able to cover a ton of ground and fast, not just straight line blowing thru the woods but covering a good area all around and then fly to whatever they need to, to cover another hound or get on their own coon and get treed.
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Home of where the Heaviest Fireball bred hounds there are come from.
And the closest ones alive to GrNtCh Oklahoma Twister (the #1 reproducing son of Fireball) and GrNtCh Yellow River Rocky (the #2 reproducing son of Fireball) . Thanks to alot of help from my friends.
Handler of:
NtCh GrCh "PR" Dan Langston (Has 2 wins towards GrNtCh in the hunts) ( 10yr old owner asked for me to bring him back to his home) (wouldn't sell) (Ch D8 Dozer (bear hound from all coondog stock, out of my breeding) x NtCh Music/ Kitty) (33% Fireball thru heavy line breeding the highest GrNtCh Fireball blooded hound alive, who is hunt titled )
Home of:
'PR' Atomic Fireball's Harry Lady (GrNtCh. Barnyard Horse Harry x GrCh Daisy (was the highest Fireball blooded female alive)
'PR' Atomic Fireball's Toes ('PR' Atomic Fireball's Fast Talker (nephew to Bookem Danno) x 'PR' Atomic Fireball's Harry Lady
'PR' Atomic Fireball's Little Dixie (NtCh GrCh. 'PR' Dan Langston x 'PR'Harry Lady)
'PR' Atomic Fireball's Two Toes (NtCh GrCh Dan Langston x Atomic Fireball's Toes
Didn't have the deep hunt style I like but is a solid coonhound. Been treeing her own since her second night in the woods at 8 months old.
Former home of:
(Qualified for the 2011 World Hunt) NtCh. 'PR'Swann's Lonesome Red Music/ Kitty RIP (NtCh.Twister's Musical Red Huey x NtCh. Sawblade Red Reckon) RIP
GrNtCh Fireball's Jackpot Jackie, highest placing Redbone female ever, in the UKC World Hunt . RIP
GrCh. 'PR' Atomic Fireball's Little Daisy RIP (Was the highest GrNtCh Fireball blooded female in the world at the time) (Qualified for the 2010 World Show).
'PR' Atomic Fireball's Red River (Daisy x Brown's Oklahoma Twister) RIP (heatstroke)
Ch. D-8 Dozer (Was the Highest blooded GrNtCh Fireball blooded male in the world until I had the GrNtCh Twister pups from here) Was sent to be bear hunted because of his size and me being disabled. RIP
First and only sons of the Old GrNtCh #7 Historical Reproducer Brown's Okl. Twister (the #1 Producing Son of Fireball) in 15 years..
http://atomicfireballkennels.webs.com/
http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...threadid=341228
Steve Bell
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