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Rip, I think it is a fair argument to have whether this is a tax or not. I think not, you think so. But your challenge is that neither Obama NOR Romney think it is a tax. Romney has made numerous statements over the years defending the health care system that he put in place as Governor, saying that it is not a tax. His campaign staff are pushing that message. So you have a choice between voting for two candidates who believe the same thing on this issue. Both have put the same health care system in place, one at a state level, one national.

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After Chief Justice John Roberts handed down his ruling that the individual mandate requirement in the Affordable Care Act fell under Congress’ power to tax, the question of whether Republicans were taking advantage of calling it a tax or insisting the ruling was wrong to call it that has continued into today, when senior Mitt Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom insisted the mandate, according to the candidate, was not a tax, and that he disagreed with the Court’s ruling calling it such.

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Have they re enacted Debtors Prison? You get all that stuff in prison anyway. I can't pay the tax, so debtors Prison, Look Out.

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Charge it to the kids.

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I used to be worth three quarter of of a million dollar piece of land and my mamma's house and my house. But the US got it all, I had six months shy of being vested in this, the cracker country ass a Fed employee . Now I have nothing , they got it all from me. 3/4 0f a million dollar and that is only the start of this bule sheete. So Whooop te de do to dis how can the governmenment screw you? From nineteen sixty six to now ? Lets get my cracker assed Constiitution clue up in case to the Supreemes? LOL, I Got $16 M .45 wanting to **** our US assd Constituitions and derelicted of the the Consti tU tion, For I have absolutely , positively no respect for the worlds up. Is it a tax or is it it not a tax ? Assholds? You decide. LOL> I love this country and this Country> BOTH Sociallist, but I am going to live long even though, And then . Them Even thought I drew a high loto numbers 345; Dat's just the way it is for lucky. Beat being hiding out in a Can A Frkin Canna Dah. Shicken MF"n Chits>. JMO. JMO FUnny, Fuuny Dope smokers. Cannabis dah , most like Floridah!! peckerwoods . see what your sorry assed vote counts for peckerwoods..

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I was a lucky mother. I had a natural ace high straight when the press news a paper boy come by he steps at college and us playng poker on the front stepsof the dorm. A feller bought a newspaper to find out but I had a ace hight straight so I had an A in ROTC. as well but my mumber was fixing t be be read out louds and since I had a A and fixin to get gone and to vietnam, for underhand chunkimkin a grnadw cken across a dorn an landing it just exactly where i told it it it needed to land at. Booety woogety , Iwas good at it chnking. I said a litle payer and I said, Gawd , I don't care if I never ever win another ace high skreight but it show whowld make me happy not to get gone. over yandrb. Many of my copadresgot up and hauled ass for Canna, the peckers. They are stillisted in he methhdist Jt Colledge but hauled ass . Who would have ever thought Methodists could be so shicken Chit? I can't, peckers . i He obliged and I chuncked the uniforn clean a back at the seargent and my spit assed shined shews and my polished buttons . I chiunked them back across the counter at the seargent and I tolds his that I was fixing to grow myt hair clean down to my ass and get me abunch of nookie. He knew he was at a loss flat Out he saids nbsmn ma a a. Hellow/ With a tad of a grin.

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[B]I was a lucky mother. I had a natural ace high straight when the press news a paper boy come by he steps at college and us playng poker on the front stepsof the dorm. A feller bought a newspaper to find out but I had a ace hight straight so I had an A in ROTC. as well but my mumber was fixing t be be read out louds and since I had a A and fixin to get gone and to vietnam, for underhand chunkimkin a grnadw cken across a dorn an landing it just exactly where i told it it it needed to land at. Booety woogety , Iwas good at it chnking. I said a litle payer and I said, Gawd , I don't care if I never ever win another ace high skreight but it show whowld make me happy not to get gone. over yandrb. Many of my copadresgot up and hauled ass for Canna, the peckers. They are stillisted in he methhdist Jt Colledge but hauled ass . Who would have ever thought Methodists could be so shicken Chit? I can't, peckers . i He obliged and I chuncked the uniforn clean a back at the seargent and my spit assed shined shews and my polished buttons . I chiunked them back across the counter at the seargent and I tolds him that I was fixing to grow my hair clean down to my ass and get me abunch of nookie. He knew he was at a loss flat Out he saids nbsmn ma a a. Hellow/ With a tad of a grin. Your lucky day all the way round. I show did feel bad about it but not that bad really cause I had done had my + 300 momber .SoIt goes I been a lucky SOB alls my life long and lucky too when it comes to mesing with womens. Dey seem to like me and my luck mostly. We always happy with each other is all I can figure out./B]

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She show is pretty though. A fine Lady. And we continue to have some fun.

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Truly, the reason I can't find people who will admit they voted for Obama is cause I spend my days with folks who work for a living..........ya should try it sometime. I think Roberts got tired of being called an activist judge so he tossed the ball back in the peoples court. We'll know come November one way or the other. Either way, the people will get the govt. they deserve. Me, I'll take the mormon over the moron.

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Truly, the reason I can't find people who will admit they voted for Obama is cause I spend my days with folks who work for a living..........ya should try it sometime. I think Roberts got tired of being called an activist judge so he tossed the ball back in the peoples court. We'll know come November one way or the other. Either way, the people will get the govt. they deserve. Me, I'll take the mormon over the moron.

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Have they re enacted Debtors Prison? You get all that stuff in prison anyway. I can't pay the tax, so debtors Prison, Look Out.

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Interesting. I spend my days with people who work for a living also. Been working for a living since I was 19. Was working since I begged for my first task on the farm. At age seven I was given sole responsibility for care of Geronimo. he was a tasty one. got some good steaks out of him. Worked milking, feeding, caring for 70 head of milk cows til I went to college. That work wasn't for a living, it was to avoid getting a whipping. Trust me, I know how to work. Never had two weeks vacation in my life til around age 40.

Difference is me and my people actually like to work. WHich is why we support job creators like Obama rather than job killers like Bush and Romney.
We like to be self reliant and not blame others. Seems like your crowd just wants to be haters and blame Obama for all your troubles.
Pull yourself up by the bootstraps man.

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Ben, other then government jobs name 1 that's 1 job Obama created on his own. I had to edit this, I was talking about the United States not all the green jobs (Taxpayer funded) he sent over seas.

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Ben, other then government jobs name 1 that's 1 job Obama created on his own. I had to edit this, I was talking about the United States not all the green jobs (Taxpayer funded) he sent over seas.

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Did Obama cut those government jobs or did the states cut them because they could not afford to pay them? I don't remember any downsizing Obama did, other than let the census folks go when their job was done.

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Never mind, I found my answer. Federal government actually increased by 1.3% over Obama's 1st 3 years. The reduction in government jobs is strictly on the state level inspite of all the federal stimulus money that was pumped into the states. You may think Obama deserves credit for this, but you won't find many that agree.

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As I said, you can't give me one job he created. Not private companies in spite of Obama. With Obama care being a TAX their will be a lot more IRS people, but again that's another increase in Fed. employees. His specialty.

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2009 manufacturing hit it lowest levels in many years. Lots of people were not just laid off but let go and not rehired. I deal with many all over the Mississippi and east. Later part of 2010 and manufacturing had to make a move to put items back in the hands of the people(whats left of the manufacturing in the USA)(also over seas). Had nothing to do with polititics. Obamas created zero jobs and it takes blind folds to think he has.

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Unemployment in United States is 14% if you count the ones that quit looking for a job. Anyone that used up all their unemployment insurance is no longer counted. The stimulus helped Finland (electric car), Mexico, made solar panels and the wind turbines for Texas project made in Australia and installed by Chinese workers. All paid for by the American taxpayer. It looks like Obamacare is going to hit the american taxpayer too.

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Have you guys caught the story that it appears that Chief Justice Roberts wrote both the majority opinion and the dissent opinion regarding the Affordable Care Act? Wow, that is one activist judge.

Hope ya'all got a few coon treed tonight. Hunted here in mid eighties. Treed two quick ones. Worst mosquitoes we have had here since 98 or 99.

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Obama's big job creation claim "created Green Jobs". Seen an interview with the "GREEN JOBS CZAR" the other day. Admitted the jobs CREATED were mostly jobs that were really renamed from other areas. Example, a garbage collector is now considered a green job. Not newly created only renamed. Some jobs he mentioned were a real stretch.

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Happy 4th

Let me add that in 2011, first of 2012 when manufacturing picked up some production we all got busy working some overtime on our skelaton crews and still operate this way today. All those that were let go never got re-hired. How do I know this? Because I visit many small, mid and large sized production shops and factories.
Any one claims to have helped create jobs is lying to the American people insearch of re-election. Obama has bold faced on camera said he helped creat jobs. "LIES" The man speaks with fork in tongue, hes lost all respect for 99% of the people I surround myself with. He will never regain any credibility from us.

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