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Lets hear from UKC lawyers on this- I am willing to wager they will not touch this with a 10 ft pole.

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they arent going to be heated and nasty stuff going on in the woods,which shouldnt be anyway according to the RULES.......(QUOTE)
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alcohol is a legal drug !

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quote:
Originally posted by groworg1
alcohol is a legal drug !


You need to look up the definition of drug.


1.(pharmacology) A substance used to treat an illness, relieve a symptom, or modify a chemical process in the body for a specific purpose

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quote:
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In the state of Arkansas these rules are useless. Arkansas law states a sign must be posted at every entry to a bldg or event that firearms are not permitted, otherwise with your CCP you have every right in the world to be armed. As for the marijuana if you have a prescription, it would be not be considered an illegal drug.


We have some of the same issues here.

They have pot fest in Seattle, LOL, no prescription required.

However, medicinal mj is a huge thing here. MJ is a scheduled drug prohibited by federal law. Federal law trumps state laws. So, our beloved gov (cough cough, hack hack) had to do an about face when feds came in as she did not want her employees in trouble. Growing and selling medical mj here is legal under permits, but still illegal at the federal level. Which could have criminalized her employees charged w issuing permits.

Until the feds remove mj from the scheduled drug classification or assign it a schedule for use in medicinal purposes...states can't really pass laws to legalize what is illegal on a federal level. What WA found out is that you can ask the state, county, and municipal LE to not charge for use/grow/possession/sale of permitted medical mj w/i the state. BUT that doesn't stop the feds from coming in and having a hay day making busts and threatening state employees of criminal charges for licensing/permitting what is federally illegal.

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look at numbers 8,11,18,

ARKANSAS CHL PROHIBITED list
Concealed Handgun Licensing
Pull Down Menu to Select Topic:Application InformationApplication ProblemsRenewal/Transfer/Replacement InformationApplicable LawsLicense ReciprocitySafety Instructors
Applicable Laws
Where Concealed Handguns are Prohibited:
ACA §5-73-306
No license to carry a concealed handgun issued pursuant to this subchapter authorizes any person to carry a concealed handgun into:
(1) Any police station, sheriff's station, or Department of Arkansas State Police station;
(2) Any Arkansas Highway Police Division of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department facility;
(3) (A) Any building of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department or onto grounds adjacent to any building of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department.
(B) However, subdivision (3)(A) of this section does not apply to a rest area or weigh station of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department;
(4) Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
(5) Any courthouse;
(6) (A) Any courtroom.
(B) However, nothing in this subchapter precludes a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon into his or her courtroom;
(7) Any polling place;
*****(8) Any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity;****
(9) Any meeting of the General Assembly or a committee of the General Assembly;
(10) Any state office;
***(11) Any athletic event not related to firearms;****
(12) Any portion of an establishment, except a restaurant as defined in § 3-9-402, licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises;
(13) Any portion of an establishment, except a restaurant as defined in § 3-9-402, where beer or light wine is consumed on the premises;
(14) Any school, college, community college, or university campus building or event, unless for the purpose of participating in an authorized firearms-related activity;
(15) Inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person is prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the passenger terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking the firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft;
(16) Any church or other place of worship;
(17) Any place where the carrying of a firearm is prohibited by federal law;
*****(18) Any place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held, and the licensee is a participant in the parade or demonstration; or*******
(19) (A) Any place at the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of the place by placing at each entrance to the place a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that “carrying a handgun is prohibited”.
(B) (i) If the place does not have a roadway entrance, there shall be a written notice placed anywhere upon the premises of the place.
(ii) In addition to the requirement of subdivision (19)(B)(i) of this section, there shall be at least one (1) written notice posted within every three (3) acres of a place with no roadway entrance.
(C) A written notice as described in subdivision (19)(A) of this section is not required for a private home.
(D) Any licensee entering a private home shall notify the occupant that the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun.
History. Acts 1995, No. 411, § 2; 1995, No. 419, § 2; 1997, No. 1239, § 2; 2003, No. 1110, § 1; 2007, No. 664, § 2.

now acording to these rules in arkansas
# 11 any athaletic event not dealing with guns.
# 8 Any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity
# 18 Any place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held, and the licensee is a participant in the parade or demonstration

11 a coon hunt is an atheletic event
8 most big events are held on county fairgrounds
18 a place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held... all coonhunts require permits issued by the state in which they are being held
Definition of DEMONSTRATION
1: an act, process, or means of demonstrating to the intelligence: as a (1): conclusive evidence : proof (2): derivation 5 b: a showing of the merits of a product or service to a prospective consumer
2: an outward expression or display
3: a show of armed force
****4: a public display of group feelings toward a person or cause****
number 4 describes every coon hunt anyone goes to. A PUBLIC DISPLAY OF GROUP FEELINGS TOWARDS A PERSON OR CAUSE
now as far as arkansas rules go... do you still feel that you can legally carry a concealed weapon with a ccp???????

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quote:
Originally posted by mike bennett
You need to look up the definition of drug.


1.(pharmacology) A substance used to treat an illness, relieve a symptom, or modify a chemical process in the body for a specific purpose



Alcohol modifies a chemical process in the body for a specific purpose.

It cures common sense, rationality, level headedness, and intelligence.
Pharmacology is an aweful big word for a lot who hang here, LOL. Though one of my favorite classes in college. One of the first things taught in that class was we don't define a drug, the feds do that for us, LOL. Many people try to argue mj is not a drug it is an herb, as long as dea says it is a drug...it is a drug. Never seen a conviction for 'herb' possession. Seen lots of drug possession for mj cases.

A lot who feel alcohol is a legal drug are not entirely correct. It is illegal to be under the influence of such and drive (or in public in places), to be in possession of open containers while driving/public, illegal if on probation by court order, is illegal to sell w/o a license, and illegal for minors and to supply to minors. Not everybody can buy or possess alcohol, let alone consume it legally.

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drug/drəg/
Noun:
a substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body, in particular

a substance that has a physiological effect when ingested.... i do believe that alchohol is described perfectly here

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The fact that the handgun laws vary so much from state to state is precisly why UKC. cant be involved other than to advise its participants to follow local law. Todd has clearly stated that the intent of the rule was to prevent guys from setting up and swapping guns at the events, and that UKCs policy is not to revent lawful conceal carry.

My state is probably the toughest in the nation to get the right and i carry almost always. COPPERHEAD if you are determined to scratch a hunter that is legally carring a handgun knowing that UKC. has interpreted the rule for you ...... you shouldnt have a license.

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what do you mean i shouldnt have a license????? all i am stating and have been stating from my first post on this subject is that UNTILL UKC CHANGES THE RULES IN WRITING ON ALL 3 RULES SOURCES THERE ARE NO GUNS ALLOWED AT A HUNT PERIOD, NO QUESTIONS ASKED there is no debating this. if ukc changes the rules wording then i will also support people with ccp. but untill then the rules are in black and white, there are no grey areas. period

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For every rule there is interpretation and there is intent. Both have been explained to you and you have decided to do your own thing, Best of luck.

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ABSOLUTELY NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES,
GAMBLING, FIREARMS OR ILLEGAL DRUGS WILL
BE ALLOWED ON THE GROUNDS OR WHILE
PARTICIPATING IN THE HUNT OR IN THE
BUILDINGS THE DAY OF A UKC LICENSED EVENT

why is it so hard for everyone to read the above statement and understand there is NO VARIENCES IN THE RULES.... IT EVEN SAYS ABSOLUTELY NO ALCHOLIC BEVERAGES,GAMBLING,FIREARMS..... why is this so hard to understand?????

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I would hope that at sometime in the future Todd will adress this issue in the advisor to clarify for guys that choose to look for an opportunity to SCRATCH.

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I think it is fairly simple, if you allow your gun to be noticed, you are subject to being scratched. And if you are dumb enough to openly display, to deserve it.

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look i dont look for a reason to scratch people, i love hunting with other people, i love the fellowship and it is fun to let the dogs go out and do what they are trained to do.... if i get beat then the best dog won. i dont hunt dogs for a living, i do it for the fun. so if you are implying that all i want to do is scratch people, well pal you are 100% wrong. but as todd and allen has said on here on numerous occasions, if you are the judge of a cast you need to have the integritaty and the abilities to follow the rules.

here is what i am saying if you have to call time out and catch the dogs, 4 dog cast....... you as the judge sets the meeting place, and start the hour time limit... you and 1 other get your dogs and meet at the designated spot....at 62 minutes the third dog gets there and at 80 minutes the last one gets there..... what do you do????? the rule is in black and white, 60 minutes, do you say well he was only 2 minutes late we will give him a break. and the other dog that is scratched for holding up the cast..... no you cant do that..... 2 minutes may as well been 2 hours, you have to treat both handlers the same way. you have to follow the rules with out fail.

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quote:
Originally posted by copperheadcreek
look at numbers 8,11,18,

ARKANSAS CHL PROHIBITED list
Concealed Handgun Licensing
Pull Down Menu to Select Topic:Application InformationApplication ProblemsRenewal/Transfer/Replacement InformationApplicable LawsLicense ReciprocitySafety Instructors
Applicable Laws
Where Concealed Handguns are Prohibited:
ACA §5-73-306
No license to carry a concealed handgun issued pursuant to this subchapter authorizes any person to carry a concealed handgun into:
(1) Any police station, sheriff's station, or Department of Arkansas State Police station;
(2) Any Arkansas Highway Police Division of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department facility;
(3) (A) Any building of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department or onto grounds adjacent to any building of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department.
(B) However, subdivision (3)(A) of this section does not apply to a rest area or weigh station of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department;
(4) Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
(5) Any courthouse;
(6) (A) Any courtroom.
(B) However, nothing in this subchapter precludes a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon into his or her courtroom;
(7) Any polling place;
*****(8) Any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity;****
(9) Any meeting of the General Assembly or a committee of the General Assembly;
(10) Any state office;
***(11) Any athletic event not related to firearms;****
(12) Any portion of an establishment, except a restaurant as defined in § 3-9-402, licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises;
(13) Any portion of an establishment, except a restaurant as defined in § 3-9-402, where beer or light wine is consumed on the premises;
(14) Any school, college, community college, or university campus building or event, unless for the purpose of participating in an authorized firearms-related activity;
(15) Inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person is prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the passenger terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking the firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft;
(16) Any church or other place of worship;
(17) Any place where the carrying of a firearm is prohibited by federal law;
*****(18) Any place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held, and the licensee is a participant in the parade or demonstration; or*******
(19) (A) Any place at the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of the place by placing at each entrance to the place a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that “carrying a handgun is prohibited”.
(B) (i) If the place does not have a roadway entrance, there shall be a written notice placed anywhere upon the premises of the place.
(ii) In addition to the requirement of subdivision (19)(B)(i) of this section, there shall be at least one (1) written notice posted within every three (3) acres of a place with no roadway entrance.
(C) A written notice as described in subdivision (19)(A) of this section is not required for a private home.
(D) Any licensee entering a private home shall notify the occupant that the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun.
History. Acts 1995, No. 411, § 2; 1995, No. 419, § 2; 1997, No. 1239, § 2; 2003, No. 1110, § 1; 2007, No. 664, § 2.

now acording to these rules in arkansas
# 11 any athaletic event not dealing with guns.
# 8 Any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity
# 18 Any place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held, and the licensee is a participant in the parade or demonstration

11 a coon hunt is an atheletic event
8 most big events are held on county fairgrounds
18 a place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held... all coonhunts require permits issued by the state in which they are being held
Definition of DEMONSTRATION
1: an act, process, or means of demonstrating to the intelligence: as a (1): conclusive evidence : proof (2): derivation 5 b: a showing of the merits of a product or service to a prospective consumer
2: an outward expression or display
3: a show of armed force
****4: a public display of group feelings toward a person or cause****
number 4 describes every coon hunt anyone goes to. A PUBLIC DISPLAY OF GROUP FEELINGS TOWARDS A PERSON OR CAUSE
now as far as arkansas rules go... do you still feel that you can legally carry a concealed weapon with a ccp???????




I will make a wager I can win in court against 11,8, or 18, if sign is not posted on all entries to BLDG. As far as a parade- you are a joke. Nobody will ever be arrested for having a cw at a parade. Are they going to pat people down- not in Arkansas. This sounds like to me people have no way of winning without trying to scratch somebody for something. In Arkansas we have Wildlife Management Areas, governed by the state ,requiring permits and guess what CCP and weapons are allowed. That blows a hole in
8,11 and 18. If you so desire you can email the Attorney General
and ask his opinion. Hunting is an athletic event right? Why did you define demonstration? As for your last question yes I will carry. Let me know what you want to wager and then we will email the AG.

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quote:
Originally posted by copperheadcreek
look at numbers 8,11,18,

ARKANSAS CHL PROHIBITED list
Concealed Handgun Licensing
Pull Down Menu to Select Topic:Application InformationApplication ProblemsRenewal/Transfer/Replacement InformationApplicable LawsLicense ReciprocitySafety Instructors
Applicable Laws
Where Concealed Handguns are Prohibited:
ACA §5-73-306
No license to carry a concealed handgun issued pursuant to this subchapter authorizes any person to carry a concealed handgun into:
(1) Any police station, sheriff's station, or Department of Arkansas State Police station;
(2) Any Arkansas Highway Police Division of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department facility;
(3) (A) Any building of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department or onto grounds adjacent to any building of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department.
(B) However, subdivision (3)(A) of this section does not apply to a rest area or weigh station of the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department;
(4) Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
(5) Any courthouse;
(6) (A) Any courtroom.
(B) However, nothing in this subchapter precludes a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon into his or her courtroom;
(7) Any polling place;
*****(8) Any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity;****
(9) Any meeting of the General Assembly or a committee of the General Assembly;
(10) Any state office;
***(11) Any athletic event not related to firearms;****
(12) Any portion of an establishment, except a restaurant as defined in § 3-9-402, licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises;
(13) Any portion of an establishment, except a restaurant as defined in § 3-9-402, where beer or light wine is consumed on the premises;
(14) Any school, college, community college, or university campus building or event, unless for the purpose of participating in an authorized firearms-related activity;
(15) Inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person is prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the passenger terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking the firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft;
(16) Any church or other place of worship;
(17) Any place where the carrying of a firearm is prohibited by federal law;
*****(18) Any place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held, and the licensee is a participant in the parade or demonstration; or*******
(19) (A) Any place at the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of the place by placing at each entrance to the place a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that “carrying a handgun is prohibited”.
(B) (i) If the place does not have a roadway entrance, there shall be a written notice placed anywhere upon the premises of the place.
(ii) In addition to the requirement of subdivision (19)(B)(i) of this section, there shall be at least one (1) written notice posted within every three (3) acres of a place with no roadway entrance.
(C) A written notice as described in subdivision (19)(A) of this section is not required for a private home.
(D) Any licensee entering a private home shall notify the occupant that the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun.
History. Acts 1995, No. 411, § 2; 1995, No. 419, § 2; 1997, No. 1239, § 2; 2003, No. 1110, § 1; 2007, No. 664, § 2.

now acording to these rules in arkansas
# 11 any athaletic event not dealing with guns.
# 8 Any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity
# 18 Any place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held, and the licensee is a participant in the parade or demonstration

11 a coon hunt is an atheletic event
8 most big events are held on county fairgrounds
18 a place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held... all coonhunts require permits issued by the state in which they are being held
Definition of DEMONSTRATION
1: an act, process, or means of demonstrating to the intelligence: as a (1): conclusive evidence : proof (2): derivation 5 b: a showing of the merits of a product or service to a prospective consumer
2: an outward expression or display
3: a show of armed force
****4: a public display of group feelings toward a person or cause****
number 4 describes every coon hunt anyone goes to. A PUBLIC DISPLAY OF GROUP FEELINGS TOWARDS A PERSON OR CAUSE
now as far as arkansas rules go... do you still feel that you can legally carry a concealed weapon with a ccp???????



UKC is a far cry from being a public demonstration and your rational made me laugh and drop my phone.

UKC is NOT a govt agency, nor does it hold events in conjunction with any govt meetings. (strike that misconception)

Coon hunting is most likely NOT an athletic event and hunting period is legally expected to be associated w the use of firearms. Athletic activity would include professional sports or minor league athletic events.

UKC is far from remotely being considered a general assembly.

UKC events are neither demonstrations or parades, and highly doubt they have to have a permit for such to have a UKC hunt. (the definition of demonstration in this rule covers political rallies, gay pride events, anti abortion demonstrations, etc) far cry from a UKC event. I'm sure the clubs of AR are rolling their eyes that you think they need to also get a parade/demonstration permit in addition to field trial/hunt permit in order to hold a hunt.

UKC nite hunts are NOT open to the general public. People just can't pop in (even if event is hq at a fairground) with 50 of their closest friends and decide they are all going to go out and watch a cast.

Nite hunts are closed/private events. Granted a spectator or so can go out on a cast...in order to participate you must have a UKC reg coonhound, have paid entry, or be a non hunt guide/judge, back up handler to participate. A bench show may be considered open to the public if held at a fairground, but not the ones on my own property or any other property of limited or private access.

Unless the club posts NO FIREARMS, that is the ONLY provision for which somebody cannot legally conceal carry at a UKC event under the AR statutes.

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MR starplott- I am trying to get him to bet me money. By his responses I am guessing he will be a welcher on his bets also. Thanks for the entertainment this afternoon, it sure beats being bored.

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I cannot speaks for the UKC hunts and permits needed, but I am the director of our PKC club and as far as I know, we have been having hunts without a permit. We also hold our hunts in a city owned bldg and again no permit needed. Maybe you can send me the defintion of permit- I may have one and I may not, either way I will sleep good tonight.

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how can you say it is a private or closed event... it is not by invatation only. how many people go to the hunts that dont hunt in them, it is a very public event.

and if you think that coonhunting is not an athelitic event you are mistaken... hunting, yes is associated with guns...... but not compatition hunting, where there are supposed to be no guns allowed

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I will make a wager I can win in court against 11,8, or 18, if sign is not posted on all entries to BLDG. As far as a parade- you are a joke. Nobody will ever be arrested for having a cw at a parade. Are they going to pat people down- not in Arkansas. This sounds like to me people have no way of winning without trying to scratch somebody for something. In Arkansas we have Wildlife Management Areas, governed by the state ,requiring permits and guess what CCP and weapons are allowed. That blows a hole in
8,11 and 18. If you so desire you can email the Attorney General
and ask his opinion. Hunting is an athletic event right? Why did you define demonstration? As for your last question yes I will carry. Let me know what you want to wager and then we will email the AG.



I'll make a wager you would never find yourself even remotely close to getting arrested, let alone even get a chance to take such lunacy to court. A cop would laugh if somebody tried stating such bs misinterpretation of the statute.

First of all NONE of his hog wash is remotely close to being comprehensive of the statute. Let alone the spirit of the law.

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dont you just love these moh's that think they are above interpatation

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how can you say it is a private or closed event... it is not by invatation only. how many people go to the hunts that dont hunt in them, it is a very public event.

and if you think that coonhunting is not an athelitic event you are mistaken... hunting, yes is associated with guns...... but not compatition hunting, where there are supposed to be no guns In allowed



In Arkansas not many show up for a hunt and don't hunt. We usually don't have many show up at all, but what does come usually hunts to support the club. Not many hunts are held at places that people go and hang out. Our UKC club is held at the community center in a town of less than 30 people, but very good woods around the area. Other than one really old man, who can no longer get around like he has in the past, there is no one just there for the public event.

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they arent going to be heated and nasty stuff going on in the woods,which shouldnt be anyway according to the RULES.......(QUOTE)
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THAT'S FUNNY RIGHT THERE.......



its funny because ,its only going to happen when people let it happen,,

i'd be more worried about getting up in someone face and have a lead strap used upside ya head ..

those scared of someone haveing a ccp and legally carrying must have personal problem and afraid that they might not be able to get away with these so called heated/nasty discussions,,

there are ways to take care of that when it happens,,
#1 man up and call time out and return to clubhouse and file the proper paperwork...
theres no reason to allow this kind of behavor to happen,,
unless you are part of the problem..you have nothing to be scared of

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