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Yea Randy I have seen alot of handlers that could not tell when there dog has moved.

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yeah asap thats true many refuse to admit it but there again more often than not the cast will want you to move from the spot you called the dog this is whats known as a diversion it dont work with me

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I still don't understand what planet you guys are living on. In my part of the country, you better be packing a dog that can tree real live coon, that you can see. Minus points can win a cast, but very very very very seldom do win a cast.

If winning was as easy as simply having minus points....everyone would be winning all the time.

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what are u talking about the pkc world hunt was won with -25 points so like i said the poll speaks for it self

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Originally posted by john yoakum
Once again:like I said last NOVEMBER why don't we have hunts in North central Indiana
in,Nov.,Dec.,Jan.,Feb. I't was said that we wouldn't draw enough participants, ( BULL$#!+)

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Location: Michigan
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I'm with Joe on this one. As a club officer who puts in many hours for these spring, summer & fall hunts it's nice to have some downtime to recoup a little & not spend my whole weekend at the club. In case you haven't noticed it's usually only a few people "working" to make these hunts possible. The rest of ya just show up to hunt & leave. Most of ya are reluctant to judge /guide & are basically -users.The same guys who want all these winter hunts usually never show up anyways. If you want these winter hunts just tell the club officers you would like to hold some Jan/Feb hunts & run the whole show for them. I guarantee they will let ya!!!I would welcome it-but I'm not holding my breath.And ya wonder why clubs are dying???Too many hogs & not enough farmers.Joe, congrats on getting in the semis at Onsted! I was there too. I bought a hat for $250!!! I was the hunt director for the open/pups on Sat. nite.

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Hate to admit it, but PKC CH is harder to get if you don't get the breaks .As far as PKC PCH compared to UKC GRNTCH the thePCH status would be like winning the UKC World Hunt or AO.

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pkc ch definately harder. I don't know where you all get that a dog has to tree a coon to be a nite ch. they have to have plus points but this is quite often a result of backing the right dog at the right time.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Tennessee
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I havent been able to read all of these threads but covered some of them. U die hard UKC hunters are keeping closed minds. I like both registries and hunt both UKC and PKC. In PKC's defense (imagin having to defend PKC on the UKC board) PKC pays out money to the dog that makes the least mistakes when the coon arent moving. Its not the fact that "PKC pays out to the dogs that cant tree a coon" thats wrong thinking. Dont be so judgemental until you experience it.

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i know that the post about bud winning the world hunt with minus was made a while back but do none of you realize that he won 5 consecutive cast to get there. if that is easy then one of you should take home the $30,000 this year.

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Location: Michigan
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PKC champion degree is harder in my area. That is if you hunt local at all your hunts. I don't travel good and so don't travel much. Get critisized for not winning away from home, just don't hunt away from home. Anyway, much harder to make a PKC Champion here than UKC nitech. My gyp has won 9 UKC cast this year and won 8 PKC cast. She needs one more win to be a UKC Grandnite and $70 more to just make PKC Champ. Have drawn much tougher dogs in PKC also. Cast wins have all been plus points. Math is simple with my calculater, but also know all areas are different. Takes a good dog to win anywhere cons.

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I guess it is harder in my area to make a PKC Ch. Especially since there are very few PKC hunts around here. Folks around here laugh at PKC and the rules they go by. Yes there are a few PKC hunts around here, but very few and getting to be fewer.

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Around here there are a many a PKC champion made through the week, and on just cast wins. There are alot of PKC hunts around here though. I think a dog that consistently wins the "BIG" hunts either UKC or PKC has my vote!

I see alot of dogs around here win PKC hunts that i'd barley call a coondog, and most of the time here the casts are won on alot of circle, and maybe a few +points

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What is the difference between PKC, UKC, and AKC

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Without a doubt UKC is harder to make a Champion simply because you have to get a 1st place win. I am not saying the dogs are any better, just more difficult. I like UKC 125 treepoints compared to PKC 100. I like PKC receeding tree rule. Both reg should revise their tree rules. PKC is more open to rule changes than UKC, which I am all for revising rules for the better. I think UKC is a much more "Professionaly" run organization. I think the compitition is a little stiffer at most PKC hunts, at some of the larger UKC hunts you start to see much better dogs that could win in either organization.

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I quit hunting UKC hunts 12 or 13 years ago and only hunted PKC. since there are Hardly and PKC hunts around here i began hunting UKC again the last 2 years and with out a doubt the competition in PKC is mucher stiffer than UKC. Most guys won't bring their sorry dogs to a PKC hunt and pay the $25 to enter, and another $25 to ? a call. In UKC they can pay $10 or $15 to hunt and fuss all night for free.

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Location: marion nc
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I"ve hunted them both and Dave is right.If a man pays a 25 or 50 dollars to hunt he is usually toting a nice hound. The way hunts are down if there are only 1 or 2 casts then you have a pretty good shot of putting a 1st on your dog. In the same note with numbers down on hunts it takes alot of cast wins to earn $500. Just my opinion.....

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Registered: May 2005
Location: boiling springs, North Carolina
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I think it depends on what area you are in and who shows up with which dogs. PKC, UKC, AKC it just depends who you are running against. Around here eveybody hunts all of the registry's and it depends on who is where on whick night.

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To me the title that carries the most weight is Honesty,integrity,and morals of the man or woman your dealing with.If they cheat in the night hunts chances are thier dogs and papers are counterfit as well,JMO

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Originally posted by Oak Ridge
I still don't understand what planet you guys are living on. In my part of the country, you better be packing a dog that can tree real live coon, that you can see. Minus points can win a cast, but very very very very seldom do win a cast.

If winning was as easy as simply having minus points....everyone would be winning all the time.

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