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I sure wish you was around when we was hunting "SPANKY". Could have saved me a bunch of boot leather,gas & not to mention sleep! Lazy he wasn't,intelligent not needin to go ten mile's coon treein machine he was, "Unless" the coon where not movin. There is a difference in a smart hound & one that think's they gotta run the first mile before they think about huntin. I seen "Spanky" tree several truck loads of coon behind 'ol go yonder."YEP",as in actual lived it experience not the hear say from the one's that got pounded by him time after time stuff.

Had two GrNtCh female's off him that could make sure your tracker was workin if the coon where not stirrin.

A go yonder dog is all good if that's what ya want but finding them with the tracker every dump is not my cup of tea. I'm doin something wrong in the genetic's department if they end up mile's away every dump. You'd be surprised how many coon you could tree behind yonder. Seen it for around 3 decade's now & in more competition hunt's than I can recall.

Just had to put my two cent's in in defense of "Spanky" by someone that hunted with him & looked for him many many night's.

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like i said earlier about this. It all depends on where your hunting and what the particular situation is right there at that place. Down here in North ga we don't have a lot of coons. We got some coons but not very many thats for sure. So, what a lot of folks do is hang feeder buckets to compensate for that. You see, either the dog has to get to the coon or the coon has to come to the dog. LOL LOL one or the other.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Two toes
[B]I sure wish you was around when we was hunting "SPANKY". Could have saved me a bunch of boot leather,gas & not to mention sleep! Lazy he wasn't,intelligent not needin to go ten mile's coon treein machine he was, "Unless" the coon where not movin. There is a difference in a smart hound & one that think's they gotta run the first mile before they think about huntin. I seen "Spanky" tree several truck loads of coon behind 'ol go yonder."YEP",as in actual lived it experience not the hear say from the one's that got pounded by him time after time stuff.

Had two GrNtCh female's off him that could make sure your tracker was workin if the coon where not stirrin.

A go yonder dog is all good if that's what ya want but finding them with the tracker every dump is not my cup of tea. I'm doin something wrong in the genetic's department if they end up mile's away every dump. You'd be surprised how many coon you could tree behind yonder. Seen it for around 3 decade's now & in more competition hunt's than I can recall.

Russ, My ol Joe dog would get treed just about everytime you cut him loose. Seven miles down the river in mid-January is tooooo far. I had many guys ask me how I hunted him without a tracking unit. A dog isn't hard to find with a big mouth and he is treed. I always thought I needed a hard going get deep type hound with a touch of crazy to tree lots of coon. I didn't realize how a coon treeing machine operated and certainly didn't realize that I could be happy with one. Coon population hasn't changed and I normally don't have to change sections to look at a coon. Last fall Rebel treed 11 single coon and a couple den trees and I didn't hunt but six hours. I never walked over 1/4 mile to any tree. He will make most hounds babble when cut on water but slows down as soon as he ditches them. He has increased his hunting distance with age. I don't expect him to ever be a super like Spanky. There has been just very few times that he has disapointed me.

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Blueticker,we are on the same page no doubt.

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What some folks call hard hunting I just consider dumb.

Running past coons on the way to the next section is not desireable.

But if you live where coon aren't so thick, you develop and appreciation for one with the drive to get deep if they need to.

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John,Mine will go as deep as the next one if they absolutely have to but in this country deep can be several ridge's away & doin the beep beep thing. Not for me I guess but the great thing is everybody like's different style's of hound's but in the same tokin in the time it take's to find 'ol yonder I can move to another spot or 2 or 3 & tree some coon but I guess that's where the handling part come's into play & them knpwin their name as well.

I know it take's some "Yonder" in parts of the country & I fully understand that. I've turned hound's loose in more state's than most ever get to in their live's but a very well balanced hound capable of treein settin coon by pickin them outa the thermal's that hunt's there way thru is much better to me than one that think's they gotta run a mile before they even consider slowin down enough to start lookin.

All I am gettin at.

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Russ,
'You forgot more about theseold hounds this morning before breakfast than I am ever likely to learn.

I think we are describing the same thing.

No disagreement here.

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I reckon we are....LOL!!

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Just between me and you!! Jet 8 will cross very well with your female!!! I have study the crosses and if you look at what is out there getting the job done!! Nine , 2 yr olds are going to world hunt that is bred the same as yours!! One is a little out!! That's all I have to offer!! Thanks and everyone has a view!! When you breed them, nothing is for sure!! Don't matter who they are out of!! I have made dual crosses, 1st was great and 2nd where culls!! Go figure!! God has his place along with mother nature!! Thanks, Danny G.

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Bottom Line:
Take the gyp and breed to a top hound. She has all the genetics to produce a get through the country coondog. I know where there is a no titled cooooooon dog that is 2 yrs. old. You get one chance to turn him loose before you take him off the side of a tree. He has been this way since he was started at a young age. Is that what your looking for? "Yes", I have offered pretty good money for this dog and "no" was the answer.

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Danny you are exactly right.

A couple weeks back a roader attacked us. The four dogs we had, two were young dogs all smelt the coon and opened as they busted across the ditch into a cut wheat field and down a hedge row a few yards away. They no more got out of site, some babbling and racing away when Rebel came right back to the ditch where he last smelt it and treed the coon thirth yards down the fence row. The others got treed at the end of the fence row in the big woods. They had a litter treed. They all looked good but the two guys with me complimented the dummy for stumbling around and treeing a puppy coon. A coondog with brains and a little indendant can look good at times.

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If they go through the country lookig to get treed! I'll bet I'll get treed behind them! Coondogs go hunting to find a coon, not to run thier piss and vinager out and then tree one!! Hey, lets go hunting!! If you turn Gauge loose and all the other dogs pass up a coon, YOU have just gotten beat!! He trees where the coon has climbed!! He doesn't pass up supper!! JMO!!

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Russ, Don was down last summer for a hunt. He had Becky and I had Rebel and a pup out of Bock and Lucy. That eight month old pup struck a track 200 yards left handed trailed it back our direction and smashed one on two Gr. Nt Ch. The pup won the cast since we didn't look at anouther coon. We could hunt anouther hundred nights and he wouldn't beat those two hounds but it can happen. I always like those hunts where any dog can win with 10 minutes left.

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Blueticker, "YEP", me to & have on several occassion's. Not over till it's over as the saying goes!!

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Rusty Merriman has an old Gr Nt out of my old Amy (Echo II's dam) female and his old Gr Nt Travler dog that throws some nice pups, Gunner was a natural that was started and hunted by himself until he turned one year old, he produces hard hunting pups that can get down a track.

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Rusty Merriman has an old Gr Nt out of my old Amy (Echo II's dam) female and his old Gr Nt Travler dog that throws some nice pups, Gunner was a natural that was started and hunted by himself until he turned one year old, he produces hard hunting pups that can get down a track.

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Rusty Merriman has an old Gr Nt out of my old Amy (Echo II's dam) female and his old Gr Nt Travler dog that throws some nice pups, Gunner was a natural that was started and hunted by himself until he turned one year old, he produces hard hunting pups that can get down a track.

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Voyd, is that dog still alive and getting pups?

He is a big good looking rascal, isn't he?

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Dustyn , he was out of A J and some of LLoyd stuff by Locktite.

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Troy told me tonight that Gunner and Traveler are both dead. I think he said that he found out that Gunner had died a couple weeks ago.

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Thanks Daniel, I hadn't heard about Gunner.

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If they go through the country lookig to get treed! I'll bet I'll get treed behind them! Coondogs go hunting to find a coon, not to run thier piss and vinager out and then tree one!! Hey, lets go hunting!! If you turn Gauge loose and all the other dogs pass up a coon, YOU have just gotten beat!! He trees where the coon has climbed!! He doesn't pass up supper!! JMO!!

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If they go through the country lookig to get treed! I'll bet I'll get treed behind them!!!

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that what happened at the Harrod Pro Hunt? looks to me like Gauge was sucking hind tit to that ole Bellar dog. still cant believe you wanted a challenge hunt with Bellar's WLDCH female when Big D(a get yonder dog) runs your out of the woods.


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Gauge
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Eric Fisher-Handler
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Casey
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So you are saying everything you know about a dog based on one nite hunt??? Why cant you believe that Danny would want a challange between Gauge and Janice? Ive hunted with lots of dogs and every one on here knows that theres not much difference between a GOOD coondog and a GREAT coondog. If you have a dog that will run and tree open accordingly and not miss very often youve got a coondog. In my opinion you cant get much better every dog is gona have an off night just like people having a bad day. The only difference between good coondogs is speed. JMO

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Your cocky attitude STINKS.

You seem to have a real problem with givening credit where it is due, unless YOU WANT I GIVE IT TO A DOG YOU FAVOR.

You sure are messing up a thread that was started to discuss breeding to a hard hunting Bluetick male.

If you want to peddle you $hitty attitude, do it somewhere else, cause most of us are not interested. If you can't play nice, just go away.

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