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You dont comp. hunt your dog bc she hunts too deep!?
Also, why does she need to quit the "bad ice cold track" if she trees the coon?

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I didnt mean it like it sounded..She is the only coon dog i have other than 2 pups..I have had and sold other dogs that were no where near as good as her, and I dont like the fact that you cant track your dog in hunts other than time outs. I may turn her loose, and she maybe half a mile in 5 minutes. If my dog is in a road, or something, I want to be able to know, so I can go get her, and I feel like in the comp hunts, I cant do that without getting scratched. The cold track comment is because in the cast I hunted with, there were about 4 trees made before my dog treed one. A pop up tree dog will tree a coon on my dog,but my dog will get away from the pack with a coon.....my dog is so indendent, she will not back another dog which ticks me off sometimes, and other times it doesnt. But the her getting deep comment is because i just dont not like not knowing where my dog is when I cant hear her. If i can hear her, it dont matter, but here lately, she has been getting so deep i cant even here open on track or locate.

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What is the acceptable amount of time a dog is allowed to run a bad ice cold track before treeing it?

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h said she takes to long.

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So your faulting comp hounds for yours and your dogs issues? Or you dont like losing?

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What ever is acceptable to you. For me, if my dog takes longer then 20-25 minutes on any giver track I will run in after her and show her that is not acceptable to me.

We all have different standards. my 3 are speed, accuracy and independence.

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Greene county must have had something drastic happen cause that county is full of coons.

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What ever is acceptable to you. For me, if my dog takes longer then 20-25 minutes on any giver track I will run in after her and show her that is not acceptable to me.

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So your faulting comp hounds for yours and your dogs issues? Or you dont like losing?

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Thats the style of dog i like to hunt in the hunt,get in and get treed,i dont care if its in 5 mins as long as they aint screwin around,your dog sounds just right!

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Greene county must have had something drastic happen cause that county is full of coons.

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You aint ever hunted any good swamps have you?

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Thats the style of dog i like to hunt in the hunt,get in and get treed,i dont care if its in 5 mins as long as they aint screwin around,your dog sounds just right!

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You know it's funny you meantioned swamps. The other night I casted my female loose. She was struck pretty fast and got treed in about 10 minutes. It was cold and wet. We had had rain for 3 days solid. About 5 inches of rain.

Anyway I started into her and guess what? She was in the middle of a big swmp with a coon hanging on a small tree. Took me about 20 minutes to walk 100 yards into her. It was a rough rough swamp with those little trees that makes brick walls all throughout the swamp. What a mess.

I finally got her and the coon out and she was winding another on the leash. I went against my better jedgement and re casted her along that rough swamp. She struck in about a minute and was getting gone in a hurry. I was glad to see her leave that swamp. She got treed in about 15 minutes and was 600 yards away. I decided to drive around only to find myself walking through yet another swamp with a coon hanging on a tiny tree.

Spent way more time walking through the swamp then it did her treeing the coons. Were those coon stupid by not running her for loops in those 2 swamps? Possibly so but my theory is if you have a dog that will push a coon instead of letting the coon go where it wants you will tree way more coon.

Snow, frost, swamps, wind are all just excuses to allow a dog to stand on its head. If it can't smell the track outright then it should have the brains to not mess with it and find one that it can.

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You guys fancy shhmancy competition dogs cant even come close to treeing a possum like my dogs can !!!!! Nah nah nah nah nah

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You guys fancy shhmancy competition dogs cant even come close to treeing a possum like my dogs can !!!!! Nah nah nah nah nah

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my female will take a track as it comes...but if its too cold she will work it for a few minutes.if it not something she can work out she goes and finds another. no "boo ticking around".
most accurate coondog i've ever had.made some very well known{titled gr. and nitech} hounds look average on their best nights.
funny thing just happened while buddy hunting with a just made grnite.1st drop she runs a deer.next drop she slicks,while my walker is 50ft away with the coon.

another buddy hunt with another grnite,1st drop she's under the coon already located and turned it over. the others are still trying figure the track.rest of night he pulled off his track everytime to back her.by the time he got there she was treed.never seen him tree his own!!

papers and titles don't tree coon!! coondogs tree coon not trees!!
i like my coondog just fine.haven't seen a titled dog yet i would trade her for.

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I have seen many dogs of both type that were horrendous. However I have seen very good titled in champions and grandnights that most would like to have. When you hunt in say 30 dogs a hunt it will be competive and lots harder to make that champion and continue winning in champion class as it gets a lot harder , better dogs. Having said that back when hides were $25.00 and Higher they where some great dogs that never went to hunts. Those dogs Banjo, Finley River ect. lots of great grade dogs or even registered dogs that were very very good, never had litters and owners would not sell them. Why sell when you could catch $300 coon a night.

Many good dog people can make certain dogs better than just Bob or Sally that hunts ever once in a while. Just be kind and have sportsmanship. As it is easly seen who puts time in training whether it is bench or hunting.

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this is kinda crazy. there is'nt anyone that enjoys coonhunting more than i do. i'd rather be in the woods than being at home, i have a good ole lady and nice house, but still i'd rather be in the timber. i hunt 4 to 7 nights a week and i enjoy every minute of it. about those cold tracks that take forever to tree. if my dog can't tree one every fifteen minutes, then i'm not feeding it. i don't know what cold tracks are. maybe it's not the nose that the dog has, it could be that the dog has brains enough that makes him/
her able to run a track hot or cold. it comes down wheather you have a dog that is a track dog and can run any track they come apond. usually my dog is treed within five minues, maybe ten. about the night hunts, i've been in final fours, top tens of the world hunts back in the early years, but there's no comparison to yesterdays hunts and todays hunts. about dogs, some people may disagree with me but let's say in the 70's and 80's there were alot less coon than today due to hide hunters. i actually think we had better dogs back then, we did'nt have the babbling and slick treeing idiots. most important, all hunts were NON-HUNTING JUDGES !!!bring the non-hunting judges back and you'll see a world of difference.

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this is kinda crazy. there is'nt anyone that enjoys coonhunting more than i do. i'd rather be in the woods than being at home, i have a good ole lady and nice house, but still i'd rather be in the timber. i hunt 4 to 7 nights a week and i enjoy every minute of it. about those cold tracks that take forever to tree. if my dog can't tree one every fifteen minutes, then i'm not feeding it. i don't know what cold tracks are. maybe it's not the nose that the dog has, it could be that the dog has brains enough that makes him/
her able to run a track hot or cold. it comes down wheather you have a dog that is a track dog and can run any track they come apond. usually my dog is treed within five minues, maybe ten. about the night hunts, i've been in final fours, top tens of the world hunts back in the early years, but there's no comparison to yesterdays hunts and todays hunts. about dogs, some people may disagree with me but let's say in the 70's and 80's there were alot less coon than today due to hide hunters. i actually think we had better dogs back then, we did'nt have the babbling and slick treeing idiots. most important, all hunts were NON-HUNTING JUDGES !!!bring the non-hunting judges back and you'll see a world of difference.

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Treeing a coon in 5 minutes is not a track dog to me, cause aint no way a dog can finish every track in 5 to 15 minutes everytime with the coon, if so he is passing up a cold track to find a hotter one.My dog trees in 5 minutes sometimes, but certainly not everytime..... A track dog to me is a dog that takes tracks how they come, hot or cold, that can drift a track, and end up with a coon no matter how cold or hot the track is, or how long it takes to finish the track. My dog starts a track she finishes it, wether she has to go 100 yards, or 5 miles. Yes its irratating sometimes but to me that shows she has a nose to be able to track coons other dogs cant even smell, and dont even open up on. I cannot jusity knocking a dog that wants to finish a track, and that is accurate as she is, she just has no reverse, she dont know what quit means. She aint no slouch, but she is a track dog, she isnt a tree happy dog, when she trees, you can cock the rifle. How can you say the dog is too smart to run cold tracks, maybe that track dog cant smell the track????

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matt, i have a darn good track dog and it doesnt take him long to get wooded, you can load your rifle about 95% of the time. he has the nose and brains that gives him the ability to be a track dog and a loud TREEDOG !!! YOU WOULD'NT WANT TO CARRY ALL THE COON HE TREES. i'm gettin ready to go right now, i'll wait for you if you want to go................

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matt, i have a darn good track dog and it doesnt take him long to get wooded, you can load your rifle about 95% of the time. he has the nose and brains that gives him the ability to be a track dog and a loud TREEDOG !!! YOU WOULD'NT WANT TO CARRY ALL THE COON HE TREES. i'm gettin ready to go right now, i'll wait for you if you want to go................

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matt, i have a darn good track dog and it doesnt take him long to get wooded, you can load your rifle about 95% of the time. he has the nose and brains that gives him the ability to be a track dog and a loud TREEDOG !!! YOU WOULD'NT WANT TO CARRY ALL THE COON HE TREES. i'm gettin ready to go right now, i'll wait for you if you want to go................

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a truly good trackdog never seems to hit an old cold track. they make almost every track seem like a good hot one.

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