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Originally posted by HOBO
Just now seeing this Reuben....

I’ve made repeat crosses several times over the years. While I may not have ever had that one FREAK out of a litter I’ve always seen just about the same results from each cross. I’m always bred for the average over one super freak. I made the Lobo/Sassy and the Lobo/Shadow cross several times with pretty much the same results each time. I also made the Pride/Ruby cross about 6 times and each litter was pretty much the same. I’ve made a few crosses that I thought would really click but was never really happy with them and never made those crosses again.

After reading all the replies to this post I must be one of the luckiest guys alive.

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Elvis I will try and remember the source from which I read an article that could be the answer you looking for and post it... but to cliff note It for you there was a scientist and evolutionist that was studying animals that had lifetime mates. He studied the genetic makeup of their offspring along with the genetic makeup of animals that did not have lifetime mates. He concluded that the lifetime mates offspring had greater gene diversity but was unable to determine what biological factor would influence the differences, his evolutionary opinion was that something was causing the lifetime mates to alter genitc code to ensure the survival of there species in various or changing environments

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There was a documentary on how bacterial infection in the stomach led to DNA changes in the brain. The study showed how mice were naturally afraid of cats and preferred certain foods before being infected with bacteria and after being cured they were no longer had the same DNA programming in their brains. Were no longer afraid of cats, preferred different foods no longer and performed learned trips through mazes for food.
Could these changes be hereditary? I'm sorry I didn't mean to open the door for the dog food experts!!

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It's been proven that as we(humans) age our DNA changes. Environmental and harmful element's also change our DNA. I don't know if it's the same in animals or not. Heard on the radio this morning where a set of identical twins that shared the same DNA, one had spent time in space and the other had not. They were still identical twins but, the one that had spent time in space had DNA highly altered from the other. It's possible that as the animals age the DNA has altered enough between litters that it doesn't produce the same result.

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OK let's say that the DNA changes and the experts have proven it has. It can change for the better or it can change for the worse. Even if it hadn't changed here is what I think most overlook. The Dominate and Recessive genes and how the show up in the pups. Which is why there is such a variety of dogs in a litter at times.

Once the pup is born. All the DNA and Changes in DNA can be thrown out the window. It is up to the Trainer (environment) to determine the outcome for the pup.

The Owner/Trainer has the responsibility to deal with Negative DNA or DNA that has changed Negatively even though the preceding litters were fine. People in general have become to much TOUCHY/FEELY for their own good with dealing with their pets.

The negative DNA from second, third or fourth litters wether it changed or not. Hurts the guys attached emotionally to their dogs and want to keep them for future breeding because it came from them. Then it hurts the breed in the future.

Being responsible for stamping out negative DNA no matter where it comes from should be the goal of any breeding program. Whether you make a poor choice in breeding pairs or if it mutated there. Nothing wrong with trying. The WRONG comes from not correcting the mistakes.

Not correcting the mistakes comes from those having an EGO bigger than their BRAINS. It takes an EGO to drive someone to breed the best. That same EGO is hard to keep in check with the BEST is not the outcome of the breeding.

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Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
.... dealing with their pets.....

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Therein lies the problem. They are hounds, not "pets".

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Therein lies the problem. They are hounds, not "pets".

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No Richard they are pets, the problem is when they do not work out not enough people adopt them out to their "forever home".

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.... not enough people adopt ......

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Therein lies another problem. They used to be bought and sold. When I was young they were working hounds. Now they are "members of the family".

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First place goes to ole red and his pet parent Richard

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Therein lies another problem

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Richard used to be bought and sold. When He was young and working Now He is a member of the family".

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....you are getting pretty good....

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Getting???? I have been pretty good for a long long time.

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Mountain Breeding 101

Find a good family of hounds, breed a good family of hounds, keep a close eye on a good family of hounds, Cull strictly on a good family of hounds, Breed only for the good traits in that family of hounds, Hunt and Enjoy that family of hounds!
If your a decent breeder time will tell, you will be hunting your stock for years to come, if not you will just be talking about it!

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I would rather breed to a Cull off of a helluva good cross, then to bred to a World Champion off a litter of culls.. If you don't get it, maybe its because you don't get it.. HEHEHEHEHE!!!!! Its like shooting guns and looking at scopes, Nite Force is winning all the matches, that's a good scope to go with, there winning all the matches, Just like dogs look at the ones that are doing all the winning, Example: Dogs that have won over 100,000.00, Platinum Champions, see if there are coming from a certain strain of hounds, Is a very good place to start. :Listen, A first grader could figure this out.. HEHEHEHEHE!!!LOL

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Mountain Breeding 101

Find a good family of hounds, breed a good family of hounds, keep a close eye on a good family of hounds, Cull strictly on a good family of hounds, Breed only for the good traits in that family of hounds, Hunt and Enjoy that family of hounds!
If your a decent breeder time will tell, you will be hunting your stock for years to come, if not you will just be talking about it!

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