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mountain kennel
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No Mike I didnt I had a great cast, but I sat there while two questions came in and during both questions the only person that seen these dogs do wrong was the judge. All the other handlers were rite there. The thing that got me about these scratch offenses that were questioned is that both of these dogs were big winners and had a chance to win this hunt. UKC knows all about both questions and although I'm not the best of friends with these guys I respect there dogs and them. I also heard of several other handlers having problems with Judges. Now with this being said I had a great Thursday cast.

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Well crying about it afterwards isn't gonna help either.
It helped a while back on a pro hunt win in pkc

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Surveyor
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quote:
Originally posted by mountain kennel
No Mike I didnt I had a great cast, but I sat there while two questions came in and during both questions the only person that seen these dogs do wrong was the judge. All the other handlers were rite there. The thing that got me about these scratch offenses that were questioned is that both of these dogs were big winners and had a chance to win this hunt. UKC knows all about both questions and although I'm not the best of friends with these guys I respect there dogs and them. I also heard of several other handlers having problems with Judges. Now with this being said I had a great Thursday cast.

Well that's good because based on your dogs name, I believe I was your guide and judge Thursday lol. In hindsight I kind of wish I had got there earlier Friday and tried to judge a cast then too, at least then maybe I'd have a better understanding of just what the heck happened Friday.

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Treedoggmafia
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I was very lucky to have GREAT judging all the way threw...hasn't allways been the case but this year it was great...

UKC paid the judge in question to be there from Kentucky I believe and put them up in a pretty nice motel...that's all I no about the possum judge..

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novicane65
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Might be a stupid question. But I'm curious about cast #2 on Friday night. What did the 3 dogs get scratched for?

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quote:
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Might be a stupid question. But I'm curious about cast #2 on Friday night. What did the 3 dogs get scratched for?

A possum!

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UKC GR NT CH RATTLERS BLUE SKY (RIP)
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UKC GR NT CH 'pr' Mckintosh's Blue Flame Chopper
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Mark V.
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It not all UKC We the hunters make the rule upgrades get after your breed pres. and lets make thing like this right. Quit tring to catch up with the tree count down, babbling, 7min. shine time, let put a rule in place that will for sure make the UKC hunts fare and honest.

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Treedoggmafia
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A possum!

Sure was...and I was one of them...that dam judge was just to honest..

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novicane65
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Hahahahahaha. Well it happens. I just found it odd that all three were scratched is all. Doesn't seem to happen very often. But you win some you loose some.

A good buddy told me this and it will still apply

A dog isn't god same letters just spelled different.

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qchounds
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Re: How many time this happen to you

quote:
Originally posted by Mark V.
How man times have you treed a Opposum and a coon in the same tree? I have hunted for 37 years and done this twice and both times was with the same dog. Now the Tucker dog does it 2 times in the same night???????????

Never seen it...

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Robert Johnson
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quote:
Originally posted by mountain kennel
There was judges this year that realized they had some big winners on there cast and made the some pretty shi..y statements. These dogs never had a chance from the beginning.


don't be shy... tell us what judges and the statements they made. all that is news to the staff. tell us who and what. if you can't do that, then maybe it didn't happen. better yet, put it in writing and file a complaint. don't write hear say. write down only what you know to be fact. fact is the only fact writing could be what you heard in person. were you there? I am sure I know the factual answer there.

I do not believe for a second that judges made statements about top dogs and intentionally made bad calls against them. its just horse manure and only the bad losers and manure stirrers believe otherwise.

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quote:
Originally posted by novicane65
Might be a stupid question. But I'm curious about cast #2 on Friday night. What did the 3 dogs get scratched for?


off game!

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Pigeon
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Should have had judge of cast #4, he would have found the coon. Then we would have had a different final four.

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