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ringtail
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Originally posted by stevwallace
Had two get out of pigeon coop thru feed hole that wasn't as big as Skoal can.


I've seen coon poke their heads out of holes I would have money, there was no way a coon could get through. If he can get his head through it, he can get in it.

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Be careful to be such a good sportsman to jump in and minus your dog in the summer months. Two occasions my dog treed up a tree no bigger around than my leg, but was leafy and about 25 feet tall. One was in a hunt, and after about 5 minutes of wondering how he missed this coon, he finally looked at me and the judge. The other was just pleasure hunting, same kind of tree. After looking a couple minutes, and telling myself I can't believe he missed this coon, my buddy got to squalling with his squaller, no coon looking. So I had a different kind of squaller, and on the first blow, that coon looked right at us! Not a doubt in my mind, if those coons hadn't looked, I would have said he treed slick!

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GA DAWG
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This is a coon head. That is a dip can. A coon can't get through a hole that size. Bones are wider than can. Bones don't give. So don't be pointing out silver dollar sized holes to me expecting circle. Not happening.

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We treed on a tree one night that had a REALLY REALLY small hole in it and the coon was sitting in the hole sticking his front leg out of. Never did see another hole in that tree. I use to have video of it but have since lost the video. Had I not seen it I would have never thought a coon could have fit into such a hole.

When the leaves are on it helps if you know your dog before you go to yelling its slick. If your dog tends to have the coon most of the time when the leaves are off then I'd say he still has it the majority of times when the leaves are on.

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I treed on a tree with no leaves in a hunt one night and all you could see was the coons tail hanging out of a hole that wasn't much bigger than a golf ball. The tree was only about 6 inches in diameter. I guess that our coon's heads are smaller down here in Tennessee. A hole the size of a Skoal can is plenty big enough for several coon to get in.

That skull is nasty looking. Was that a sabre-toothed coon?

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That's just a regular ol coon head. Probably didn't weigh 12 pounds. Like all the rest in North GA.

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I can say from experience that a coon can definitely get in a much smaller hole then what you would think. Example- while hunting alone one night my dog treed up a very small dead beech tree that had one small hole that looked about the size of a golf ball ( really ). I pushed on the tree which was leaning downhill on pretty steep ground and the tree fell and broke off 10-15 feet from base. Much to my surprise ( and delight ) the coon was inside and I was able to shake him out. He was about 10-12 #'s- I have since witnessed coons inside some pretty small holes. Dave

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Apparently

Coons can fit in a 2.5 X 4 inch hole

http://unis.mcgill.ca/en/uw/mammals/raccoons.html

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Re: Apparently

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Blusk25
Coons can fit in a 2.5 X 4 inch hole

http://unis.mcgill.ca/en/uw/mammals/raccoons.html
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I can tell you the hole in the tree in question on my cast was by no means that big. And the hole was about 8-9 feet off the ground. I can reach 8 feet. And Chorley is right. A coons bones aren't flexible like some of you would like to believe. I'll still say my dog was slick. I told the judge after the hunt he should've minuses her on that tree. He said would you have done any discipline pleasure hunting? I said without a doubt YES. He said he can only go off of the rules. And by the rules it was a circle tree.

And again she went on to tree the only Coon seen at the hunt. It was cold rainy night.

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Nope, a coon's skull is not flexible. But it doesn't matter how small a hole is. If he can get his head in, the rest of him will go. Common sense should tell you a 20 pound bruiser is not going to fit in the same hole a 2 pound kitten will.

With that being said, it doesn't matter if the hole is the size of a baseball or a basketball, if he's not there he can't peek out at cha.

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GA DAWG
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Funny you can post visible proof but still be wrong. This here is why we need ZERO circle. Folks are huntin folks to circle in winter. Same folks circling everything in summer. Do away with them.

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I think the cow head on the can of chew is confusing some folks

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Kinda think you are hung up on the skoal example. Seldom in nature does one find perfect round holes in trees. Holes that are wide enough 4-5" and tall enough 2-3" are big enough for a coon to get into ( fact ) Does anyone really think that they can accurately determine the exact size of a hole in a tree looking from the ground up? Physics basics apply the higher up the smaller it looks ( fact ). Jim Sizemore' s explanation and cited UKC circle rule explanation
Cover this subject! Dave

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Get a dog that has coon. Leaves and holes will never cross your mind hahaha. Plus or minus.

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