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I actually feel sorry for the folks who have never run this type of coon, whether because they don't have the coon or terrain to support this kind of race, or cause they don't have the dog that can do it. I don't like to have more than 1 or 2 of these types of races per year, but if you hunt where I do and you have a good track dog that finishes what it starts you can not avoid it.
Lat fall we put 4 hounds into a swamp/woods area. Dogs struck in the swamp. Pushed 4 coon to 3 different trees. harvested those 4. Turned dogs back out. Treed 2 more in the woods. Harvested. Turned back. Dogs went back in slough and started a track. Ran in circles for 15-20 before they pushed hard enough for coon to come out the back side. Harvested. Turned back. Dogs back in slough pushing one in circles. Caught him numerous times but he kept getting away. We finally were close enough that when they caught him again we got a boot over his neck. Two dogs were on that one and the other two were hot after yet another. That other one ran and ran and ran. We would try help the dogs by staying close and cutting Mr Coon off when he would try veer back into the thickest part of the swamp. With four guys helping push this coon we finally got him cornered in a little finger of swamp. That coon left that swamp went up over a hillside covered in tall grass and back into another swamp much bigger. The dogs ran him for over another hour before we walked in a caught them up. We would hear them catch him 2 r 3 more times before we caught them. But they could never hold him. That was one very memorable race.

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Message boards are for opinions, and if you dont want to hear the opinions of others you shouldnt start a thread, if you only want to hear nice things ask your mommy instead.
Having said that i will say this, no coon ever laid a track that regired a dog to cover 13 miles to tree, it just doesnt happen. Ocasionally a coon will run a mile or two if they have a plan,like a barn or culvert or a den but even that is rare.
What does happen often though is for a dog or dogs to run trash until they get their fill and then fall off when they cross a hot coon track and either tree that coon or catch and stretch him. If your dogs are catchin and cant "hold" i prefer the term kill but hold will do, either your dogs are pussies or they are baying a yote.
This is just my opinion and i appoligize if i have offended anyone but i followed fox, coyote, and coondogs in most parts of the country and in lots of different terrain for a long time.
In the winter we run coyote dogs on the snow, and a coyote that will run 13 miles without baying up and fighting is an exceptional coyote that we usually let live to run another day.

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coons dont run circles in fields when thay know your there thay head for home and home aint 13 miles away them races that last a long time and cover lots of ground aint coon just because dog ends up under coon dont mean thay started a coon

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i have hunted in the north and north east and have never had a track go much over a couple hundred yards up there but do understand they happen.... down here if its not a layup you will tree very few that dont go twice that far... as for catching and cant hold em it happens lots... and i know the difference in what a coon sounds like and a fox or yote... im not ashamed when my dogs cant hold one and not ashamed when they have to run one for hours as long as they do a good job doing it.... dont even care if yours falls out and trees an easy one i know what i have and like it so doesnt matter what others think they may or may not be running... 5 hour races are the exception not the rule here but they do and will happen if you have a dog that can hang with them

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You non believers might just be in open country. The long races I have been in on have been in briar thickets and we would see the coon several times before they would catch it on the ground. I'm sure if you we're in crop country and hunting fence rows and creeks you would never have that kind of race. I've only been in on 10 or so and the coons where all old. Races sure like that will make a young dog come on!

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A coon is a coon no matter where you live and none of then are physically capable of running 13 miles.

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But the dogs averaged over 6 miles an hour.I can count the times opn one hand that the garmin showed that on a bear race.I can believe a two hour race on coon,but not at 6 mph though a thicket.

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You guys will believe anything. Good grief a 13 mile coon runner or dog runner! Hahaha wonder how many marathons those 2 have ran?

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it was charles manson.

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I live in Ala and it dont get no worst hunting than we have right here. Mountains, cutover, and swamps. I have owned my dog for his whole life (he is 4 yrs old) and if he runs a coon 6 hrs i will give him away, and I prob think more of him than most do their kids..I have ran a couple 2 miles before he treed, but 13 is ridiculous. I have some friends that hunt the same places I hunt and they talk about running a coon 3 and 4 hrs before they tree them. Folks it aint the coons it is the dog!!!!!!!!!!!!

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People wonder why such a high percentage of these pups never make real coondogs. The bigger question should be why so many coonhunters never made it.

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No body said the coon ran 13 miles. I'm sure the gps was on the dog not the coon.

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now folks are saying that OLD coons run 13 miles wtf? So does my granddad but i cant. Its not the time frame folks its the distance. COON DONT RUN 13 MILES, UR HOUND IS TRASHING BAD AND FELL OFF ON A EASY COON. I SAY EASY CAUSE THEY DONE RAN BY HALF A DOZEN. I LIVE AND HUNT WHERE BOUT EVERY NITE U .AY HAVE TO CRAWL THROUGH BRIARS

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Guess I don't know the formula to figure out this one, LOL I thought I was good at math, guess not. So how far did the coon run????

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them long legged coon must be migrating to my spot had one run 2 circles then line out but finley got him treed 1.5 hours later and 1.7 miles away thought he might be running trash but am glad it was just an old long legged coon ps i still whooped his a//

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I don't know about the 13 mile deal but you guys saying a coon will only run 1 to 2 miles! Have you guys ever got after an old rutting boar that had you thinking your dogs are trashing then when you tree him he is an old bobtail ears froze off teeth half gone ole son of a gun?

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That is one LONG legged coon!

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Last night we ran a coon for 2 hours and 10 minutes in some real thick pine plantation. The track was 13.31 miles long from start to fininsh then caught it and killed it on the ground.

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I think i might like some of these long races y'all are talking bout. Since I had a Garmin longest I know of is 1.2 miles. I would guess 95% of all the coons I tree are 500yds. or less. Can't say it has much to do with dawg power...might be a lazy lot of coons in our area....or it could be both but I can't even start to think it would take my mutts that much real estate to make a tree. A track like that in our area you'd be picking up your collars.

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