Registered: Oct 2010
Location: WESTMORELAND TN
Posts: 28

I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT OR WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM NOW BUT DO AGREE THAT IT'S GOT IT'S HOLES. I HAD A YOUNG MAN NEW TO HUNTING AND ALL HE WANTED IS TO HAVE A TITLED DOG. HE HAD A NOTHING DOG ME TO ER ALL THE WAY COULD'NT TREE A COON IN BARN YRD . IN LESS THAN SIX MONTHS I NITE CH HIS DOG OUT FOR PROOF TO HIM THAT PAPER IS PAPER AND COON DOGS ARE COON DOGS. THE DOG DIED THE SAME AS HE STARTED WORTHLESS,,,,, I THINK WE'RE MAKING BETTER HANDLERS THAN WE ARE DOGS..

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2003
Location: mid-michigan
Posts: 4437

When are folks gonna learn......
There's not a rule that can be written that the dishonest won't find a way around .

__________________
Bob Brooks /
Jordan Tyler (grandson)

BackWoods River Walkers/Beagles
Just all 'round , meat gettin' hounds.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2010
Location: off the res.
Posts: 3416

Is it time for a change in titling procedure?

NO! That was simple.

__________________
Ignorance: the lack of knowledge, education, etc.
Stupidity: lacking normal intelligence.
Intelligence: the ability to learn or understand.
You can't fix STUPID!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2004
Location: waco, tx
Posts: 646

quote:

---

Originally posted by CHRIS SUTTON
Best idea and easiest solution! thinking about sending this proposal to all the Breed associations and try to get them to present this to UKC?

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Iron Station, North Carolina
Posts: 893

If the rule change went into effect then the local clubs would have the HTX hunts. If you were active at your local clubs' meetings then you could make a motion to have HTX hunts.

__________________
Travis Brittain
Orebank Creek Kennels
Know Jesus.....Know Peace
No Jesus.....No Peace

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2004
Location: waco, tx
Posts: 646

quote:

---

Originally posted by Bullet
If the rule change went into effect then the local clubs would have the HTX hunts. If you were active at your local clubs' meetings then you could make a motion to have HTX hunts.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 3660

quote:

---

Originally posted by longshot
My vote is NO Change to UKC titles. It's a long tradition and proven system... Gas is to high anyway to travel twice as much to title a dog...

The most important thing to know about titles is WHO and HOW they made them.. That makes all the difference and is what really matters.

---

__________________
patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it.
if you think the price of education is high, check out the cost of ignorance!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 116

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bullet
I've said it once and I'll say it again. If you want to improve the quality of titled hounds then change the rules that in order to get a Nite Ch or GrNtCh title your dog must have the HTX title. This should all but eliminate "me too" dogs with titles. It is a simple fix. [/QUOTE





x2]

__________________
S&S English Kennels owners Tom Stevens & John Starr

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Hutchinson Kansas
Posts: 957

quote:

---

Originally posted by cody jaster
Good luck on that! I haven't seen ANY HTX hunts anywhere near 200 miles from me. The nearest club hunt anytime is over 100 miles yet I have (and others down here) have made plenty of Gr Nites and Nites. I don't think thoughs hounds are inferior to your HTX. I hope that idea you have gets shot down completely.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2004
Location: waco, tx
Posts: 646

quote:

---

Originally posted by CHRIS SUTTON
First thing first......if it were manditory to show your dog could pass a HTX your clubs would start having them. Secondly, people that would disagree with having to pass a HTX before degrees would be awarded are kidding themselves about the quality of dog at the end of their lead strap!! Not saying it would be empleminted by UKC, just because of the number of dogs that cant pass a HTX............

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2011
Location: glasgow kentucky
Posts: 47

quote:

---

Originally posted by CHRIS SUTTON
I've always felt there should be one more step in finishing into a GR.NT. I feel that you should have to hunt your dog by itself and tree a coon and stay the 5 at a minimum! Maybe even have an hr hunt with a non hunting judge and have plus points.

---

__________________
Danny Norrod (270) 670-1589

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2010
Location: North Missouri
Posts: 545

How bout an HTX degree prior to being able to be hunted in an open registered. Why not make sure a dog can and will tree a coon before they are allowed to compete? Other ideas are good too, just like the idea of and HTX

__________________
James Harper
....816-558-5352
'PR' Harper's Stonecold Blu Bingo
'PR' Mar Mack Blue Queen
R.I.P.---
CH 'PR' Beavercreek Stonecold Blu Bozo

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: ackerman,ms
Posts: 2229

quote:

---

Originally posted by pigman816
How bout an HTX degree prior to being able to be hunted in an open registered. Why not make sure a dog can and will tree a coon before they are allowed to compete? Other ideas are good too, just like the idea of and HTX

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2010
Location: North Missouri
Posts: 545

Is today every body have a period day on this board or what? I said, my opinion, I can have one of those, right? Other good ideas, I see you piggy backing others, whats your idea? Chill out!.....And by the way, Ive got a hound that CAN AND WILL tree coon. Bring your best, your boots and some money. If I get beat by a me too dog, and I have, its because someone brought junk to a hunt and I got out handled. I expect a smart ass come back, but I do not expect you to actually show up and back up your mouth. Enjoy your day.

__________________
James Harper
....816-558-5352
'PR' Harper's Stonecold Blu Bingo
'PR' Mar Mack Blue Queen
R.I.P.---
CH 'PR' Beavercreek Stonecold Blu Bozo

Last edited by pigman816 on 03-15-2013 at 09:19 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: ackerman,ms
Posts: 2229

quote:

---

Originally posted by pigman816
Is today every body have a period day on this board or what? I said, my opinion, I can have one of those, right? Other good ideas, I see you piggy backing others, whats your idea? Chill out!.....And by the way, Ive got a hound that CAN AND WILL tree coon. Bring your best, your boots and some money. If I get beat by a me too dog, and I have, its because someone brought junk to a hunt and I got out handled. I expect a smart ass come back, but I do not expect you to actually show up and back up your mouth. Enjoy your day.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2010
Location: North Missouri
Posts: 545

Thats great, bud! Not many got nuts enough to stand on what they said. I respect that, alot! You seemed to get bitter about the HTX. I was just giving my opinion. If I read you wrong, thats my fault, but Im pretty sure that you said, 'get a better dog'. Now, why would you say that? It didnt make any sense? Again, Ive got nothing to hide, plenty of room, and food. Come on up, make it a weekend. Win or lose, we will be in some coon, and have a good time. Thats what its all about! However, unfortunately, I dont have the money to spend in gas to drive half way on a wim. Sure do wish I did! Id buy an extra Garmin collar. For the record, your opinion of the HTX is noted and respected, whether I agree or not. ....Jim

__________________
James Harper
....816-558-5352
'PR' Harper's Stonecold Blu Bingo
'PR' Mar Mack Blue Queen
R.I.P.---
CH 'PR' Beavercreek Stonecold Blu Bozo

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 3660

quote:

---

Originally posted by patches9452
i do my own htx before i enter into a hunt....

---

__________________
patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and your government when it deserves it.
if you think the price of education is high, check out the cost of ignorance!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: ackerman,ms
Posts: 2229

quote:

---

Originally posted by pigman816
Thats great, bud! Not many got nuts enough to stand on what they said. I respect that, alot! You seemed to get bitter about the HTX. I was just giving my opinion. If I read you wrong, thats my fault, but Im pretty sure that you said, 'get a better dog'. Now, why would you say that? It didnt make any sense? Again, Ive got nothing to hide, plenty of room, and food. Come on up, make it a weekend. Win or lose, we will be in some coon, and have a good time. Thats what its all about! However, unfortunately, I dont have the money to spend in gas to drive half way on a wim. Sure do wish I did! Id buy an extra Garmin collar. For the record, your opinion of the HTX is noted and respected, whether I agree or not. ....Jim

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2009
Location: WNC
Posts: 51

This is real simple. Require a dog to get the HTX degree along with completeing the Nite Ch requirements to be a Nite Ch. Presto no more guys saying Nite ch cant tree a coon by theirself. More clubs would have HTX hunts. If you didnt want to competition hunt you could still get the HTX degree. A dog could enter a HTX hunt on Fri night and then enter a nite hunt the next. More entries equal more money for clubs. More hunts equal greater club member participation in clubs and more money for UKC its a win win and I dont see why its not been done already.

If you want to go a step farther, do away with the point system and require a dog to win 5 casts with plus points to be Nite Ch and 5 cast wins in the Nite ch. category to be Gr. Nite. No more relying on feeders to get a score. Just beat the dogs you are with on one coon or twenty. If something is harder to get it means more. I believe with todays low entries it would be harder to get five cast wins than it would be to get a first and a couple of seconds. Once again entries would go up.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2010
Location: North Missouri
Posts: 545

quote:

---

Originally posted by patches9452
jim maybe i came off wrong and if i did i apoligize.... i think the htx is great for the people who want to do it... i dont think it should be a requirement for some other title

---

__________________
James Harper
....816-558-5352
'PR' Harper's Stonecold Blu Bingo
'PR' Mar Mack Blue Queen
R.I.P.---
CH 'PR' Beavercreek Stonecold Blu Bozo

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged