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not at all ....4 sure

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LET ME ASK YOU BOYS A QUESTION WHAT DO YOU CALL STAYING UNDER ANY KIND PRESSURE I OWNED A SKUNNA RIVER LIPPER MALE MADE GRAND NITE AT 3 WOULD STAY UNDER ANY KIND PRESSURE INCLUDING FANG PRESSURE YOU COULD HAUL A MALE WITH HIM NO PROBLEM S ANY THING COULD TREE WITH HIM WHEN THEY STARTED THE FIGHT HE WOULD GIVE IT RIGHT TO THEM AND GO BACK TREEING LIKE NOTHING HAPPEN HE WAS REALLY SMART QUIET AROUND THE HOUSE A BIG HUNTIN DOG A LONE WAS 70 PERCENT ACCURATE HE DIED HERE BURIED IN MY BACK YARD RIP OLD BUDDY WOULD YA CALL THAT MEAN DONT THINK SO

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If mine is with yours and gets its neck broke more power to your dog.

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I have never heard such crap. I would rather mine leave I have disposed of dogs for a lot less I have no room for a fighter, growler, nip, any of it. Ghee I wonder why hunt numbers just keep falling. GROW up and take care of the problem and yes your dog was MEAN.

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yes. A little ruff is different thin being a gater.

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I will not breed a dog that is rough , ill , gator or a tree monster. to me they are all just different names for the same thing.
I would not breed a dog OUT OF a dog that is. dont matter if it is itself or not..
go to enough nite hunts and sooner or later you will draw the
-"he aint ill, but aint nothin gonna run him off"
any dog hunted in enough nite hunts is gonna have to learn how to deal with the fang pressure. some back off, some leave and some just split tree away from the fanger, and some learn to give it back.
I have seen dogs loose a eye, and one dog loose a leg because of fights at the tree.
while pleasure hunting I had a dog come into a tree after i had got there, i watched the dog go around the tree white walling his eyes and blowing at my dog. . my dog just moved around the tree. the ill dog kept moving around the tree blowing and carrying on at my dog till they were just kinda going around the base of the tree.
I tied my dog back. after the owner got there and we left the tree -
i said "that dog is a lil rough"..
he got all riled up and said
" NO HE AINT! he aint mean at all !"
then in a lower voice he said
" thats what them guys tried to say in the hunt the other night."

there are none so blind as those who refuse to open thier eyes to see.

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I will not breed a dog that is rough , ill , gator or a tree monster. to me they are all just different names for the same thing.
I would not breed a dog OUT OF a dog that is. dont matter if it is itself or not..
go to enough nite hunts and sooner or later you will draw the
-"he aint ill, but aint nothin gonna run him off"
any dog hunted in enough nite hunts is gonna have to learn how to deal with the fang pressure. some back off, some leave and some just split tree away from the fanger, and some learn to give it back.
I have seen dogs loose a eye, and one dog loose a leg because of fights at the tree.
while pleasure hunting I had a dog come into a tree after i had got there, i watched the dog go around the tree white walling his eyes and blowing at my dog. . my dog just moved around the tree. the ill dog kept moving around the tree blowing and carrying on at my dog till they were just kinda going around the base of the tree.
I tied my dog back. after the owner got there and we left the tree -
i said "that dog is a lil rough"..
he got all riled up and said
" NO HE AINT! he aint mean at all !"
then in a lower voice he said
" thats what them guys tried to say in the hunt the other night."

there are none so blind as those who refuse to open thier eyes to see.

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my female will tell on on the mean crap going on.she backs off 8-10 ft. and starts locating again.

got ate up 1 time by a {me to}b&t male and she learned from that.

too bad there wasn't a shoot'em rule!! lol

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Originally posted by redtickhunterDG
I have never heard such crap. I would rather mine leave I have disposed of dogs for a lot less I have no room for a fighter, growler, nip, any of it. Ghee I wonder why hunt numbers just keep falling. GROW up and take care of the problem and yes your dog was MEAN.

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Good post,you would be suprised of the people that hunt those type, and say their dog aint mean, but a werewolf won't run them off....
I have seen dogs that would just run around the base of the tree and not fight and not let the other dog bite on them, but those are few and far between.
Most will either fight, or leave,and most owners want them to stay, no matter what, until their dog is the 1 leaving, then it's a diffrent story, and then they say the other dog is a gator.....

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MY PONT WAS YOUR DOG STARTED THE FIGHT MINE WOULD SET HIM STRAIGHT HE WOULD NOT START ONE THEY WOULD HAVE TO JUMP HIM NEVER BEEN SCRATCHED AT ALL SO HOW WOULD YA CALL HIM MEAN JUST A STAY PUT TREE DOG

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DO YA HUNT IN OHIO ANY DO YA KNOW FRED DENNY

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DO YA HUNT IN OHIO ANY DO YA KNOW FRED DENNY

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For you guys that have listened to people talk about MEAN dogs listen to this! In 30 years of hunting, the very best dogs I've ever owned that treed coon better than yours were mean!!! Why, I don't know, but true!!! I'm talking about dogs that tree 15 in one night cold or hot in any company regardless where you take them stay till tomorrow by themselves till you get them deep in any weather or terrain coon dogs. That's a fact!

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One option would be to get him or her cut and then hunt them alone, alot of times getting a dog cut will knock the fire out of the eyes. And the dog will still be a good pleasure dog to hunt with. I would never but bad traits into a gene pool the object in breeding is to improve the breeding not make it the same. I have had a mean dog and after cutting him I still hunt him today, he hunts just fine with other dogs with no troubles for 3 years now. The one thing is he does not have, the grit anymore or the desire to tear an animal up, but he tracks well and trees good, by himself or with other dogs.

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For you guys that have listened to people talk about MEAN dogs listen to this! In 30 years of hunting, the very best dogs I've ever owned that treed coon better than yours were mean!!! Why, I don't know, but true!!! I'm talking about dogs that tree 15 in one night cold or hot in any company regardless where you take them stay till tomorrow by themselves till you get them deep in any weather or terrain coon dogs. That's a fact!

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For you guys that have listened to people talk about MEAN dogs listen to this! In 30 years of hunting, the very best dogs I've ever owned that treed coon better than yours were mean!!! Why, I don't know, but true!!! I'm talking about dogs that tree 15 in one night cold or hot in any company regardless where you take them stay till tomorrow by themselves till you get them deep in any weather or terrain coon dogs. That's a fact!

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People say any dog that will fight is mean.. Thats a load of sh!t. The aggressor that starts it is the one to blame.. Ive hunted A LOT of hunts over the last 10 years.. Ive been around many different styles of dogs. Ive seen a lot of dogs be sitting in there treed with 2 other dogs for 4 minutes then the fourth dog me toos in there and starts falling on the other dogs and one dog gets tired of it and whips its a$$.. Guess what? That dogs a gator.. I guess I feel different than most people but IMO the dog jacking the tree started it.. If we're standing in a group of people and you smack me you may get by with it once but do it again and one of us is getting our A$$ WHOOPED.. I dont see anything wrong with a dog defending its self.. If you like to hunt in the hunts its hard to win with a dog that leaves the tree every time something face barks it.. I want mine to stay! I hear a lot of people also say there young dog ruined because he got "ate up" at a hunt.. The other side to that is a lot of morons bringing young dogs to a hunt that havent learned to tree without bouncing all over everything on the tree.. Thus causing the other dogs to get aggitated and him getting his butt ate up.. Whos fault was it?

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I don't know who originally came up with this but, a veteran coon dog man in this area says this.
IF YOU PLANT TATERS YOU WILL GET TATERS.

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i had a good black dog here several years ago. you could hunt all the pups & young dogs with him you wanted. any coondog you wanted. they could climb all over him push & bang on him blow at him didnt fase him abit. he was hunted with everybody in this country with out a problem all his life. he'd stand straight up on the wood & never move but you let a dog sink a tooth in him he would woop anything & everything on that tree & would not let any dog back on that tree !! i never put him in a hunt because of this. but he was a hell of a good pup trainer & coondog !! this dog turned & blowed at me 1 time on a tree when he was young as i reached to leash him. i never said a word just backed up a step & hit him as hard as i could in the head with a 22 rifle. never happened again !!

had another young black dog would grab at my hand when i would reach to take him off a tree. he grabbed my thunb one night. i steped back & hit him acorse the head so hard i broke the rifle in 2 pieces. knoched him out. he never done it again !!

my buddy had a young black dog wasnt mean at all but could not stay out of a dogs face. i stoud behind him one night & let him get up in my females face. i hit him as hard as i could with my fist up side his head. knocked him about 4 feet from the tree. he got up squallin. took a couple nights for him to get back to treein right but he has never face barked again.

i got a little female now that after i shot her 1st coon out at 8 month old. i let them wool it for about 15 minutes. she growled at another dog. i kicked her up side the head as hard as i could broak it up that night. next night same thing. i kicked her as hard as i could up side her head. she never done it again.

what am i saying about this. had i not corected these dogs at a young age they would have probly growed up to be a dog nobody would want to hunt with & took a dirt nap. i think most people are afraid to corect a dog on tree's because they are afraid to ruin them.

mean dogs & tree jackers i put in the same category both are trouble makers & i wont hunt ether one. or breed one.

I'M GONA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW YOU'L HAVE MORE TROUBLE STARTED ON TREE'S WITH TREE JACKER'S THAN MEAN DOGS.

as for you people that want your dog to stay & get in the dirt & have a blood bath. your probly the ones hunting a mean dog & want to try to blame someone elses dog !! you really just dont care about your dogs or others dogs !!!!!!!!!!

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Hate to be the one too break this to you JIM but thoughs dogs were mean that you described....bet you bred them too??? I would have! You corrected it too! Yes , it can be done. You are right on the FACT that most are afraid to correct dogs. I believe as you do and I get on them hard from the get go. Keep hunting those black dogs...I've hunted against a few and they are hard too beat. Gotta be slick to do it.

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