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truly
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Originally posted by trackdriver
You're right,but it's a honor to be named along side truly,wing,knox,lakeland. lol!!

Better to be with the sane minority.....

Check this out:

5 People Shot At 3 Different Gun Shows On Gun Appreciation Day

Update
Two similar incidents occurred at entirely separate gun shows in the Midwest, one in the Cleveland suburb of Medina, Ohio and the other at the state fairgrounds in Indianapolis, Indiana. In Ohio, the local ABC affiliate reports that one individual was brought to a hospital by EMS, and in Indiana Channel 8 WISH says that an individual shot himself in the hand while trying to reload his gun in the show parking lot. That brings the tally to 4 victims of gun violence so far at three different gun shows during the country’s first Gun Appreciation Day.
Update

Update
CNN is reporting that three people were injured at the gun show in Raleigh, not two as originally reported. All were victims of a shotgun that fired while the owner was removing it from a case.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...preciation-day/

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Originally posted by truly
Better to be with the sane minority.....

Check this out:

5 People Shot At 3 Different Gun Shows On Gun Appreciation Day

Update
Two similar incidents occurred at entirely separate gun shows in the Midwest, one in the Cleveland suburb of Medina, Ohio and the other at the state fairgrounds in Indianapolis, Indiana. In Ohio, the local ABC affiliate reports that one individual was brought to a hospital by EMS, and in Indiana Channel 8 WISH says that an individual shot himself in the hand while trying to reload his gun in the show parking lot. That brings the tally to 4 victims of gun violence so far at three different gun shows during the country’s first Gun Appreciation Day.
Update

Update
CNN is reporting that three people were injured at the gun show in Raleigh, not two as originally reported. All were victims of a shotgun that fired while the owner was removing it from a case.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...preciation-day/

"Gun violence" or gun accidents?Come on Ben ,your better than that. Automobile accident or automobile violence? Source please!( you really cannot count "thinkprogress as a source,can you?).

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"Gun violence" or gun accidents?Come on Ben ,your better than that. Automobile accident or automobile violence?

The way they try to deliberately manipulate others with their half truths is disgusting

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Originally posted by truly
Better to be with the sane minority.....

... That brings the tally to 4 victims of gun violence so far at three different gun shows during the country’s first Gun Appreciation Day.
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I sure hope it's just a "minority" that admit to not being intelligent enough to know the difference between "accidents" and "violence".

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obama care will work out just fine, its not a huge deal, its just time to face facts the country is more technologicaly advanced and times change were not living in the old west anymore, we'll have a gun ban not a huge deal, it will pass, its pretty much the same ban we had from 94 to 04 and we lived, things will work out, its not always a sky is falling ordeal lol....I mean what are you guys looking for, none of this compares to the patriot act and i thought that was bad and it passed etc....so in reality its all good

Take it from someone that knows Opramacare better than 99.99999% of this board. It will NOT work out fine and it is WAY more intrusive than The Patriot Act ever thought about being it is just plain awful and people will find out the hard way first hand soon.

You healthcare insurance just went up because of it, your medical bills just went up because of it, your taxes just went up because of it, and they will go up exponentially in the future because of it, that is all the people that actually work.

That's just the expense part that's not counting all of the gubment intrusion into your life with beuracrats making decisions doctors should make, denying care, making it harder for you to find a doctor, and mining the data on you as is now required by law where they can snoop on you to see what your health issues are, what medications you take, what you eat, everything.

It's way, way, way worse than the Patriot Act.

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Take it from someone that knows Opramacare better than 99.99999% of this board. It will NOT work out fine and it is WAY more intrusive than The Patriot Act ever thought about being it is just plain awful and people will find out the hard way first hand soon.

You healthcare insurance just went up because of it, your medical bills just went up because of it, your taxes just went up because of it, and they will go up exponentially in the future because of it, that is all the people that actually work.

That's just the expense part that's not counting all of the gubment intrusion into your life with beuracrats making decisions doctors should make, denying care, making it harder for you to find a doctor, and mining the data on you as is now required by law where they can snoop on you to see what your health issues are, what medications you take, what you eat, everything.

It's way, way, way worse than the Patriot Act.

Insurance has been going up every year before the health care law. Show some proof about the hard to find doctors,denied care, what meds you're taking, or what you eating.

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Insurance has been going up every year before the health care law. Show some proof about the hard to find doctors,denied care, what meds you're taking, or what you eating.

Here ya go Track, here's plenty of proof for ya.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...0968100984.html

Some states as much as a 100% increase DUE TO OBAMACARE.

This isn't counting the increase due to a 2.5% TAX on medical devices, this also doesn't count the taxes on "cadillac plans".

Hang on it will just take a second to post links to the other stuff. I know cause I work with it every day.

And here's a link about doctors retiring because of it

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio...-obamacare.html

Of course you should already know about the beuracratic board that decides your care, not doctors, but beuracrats decide what should or shouldn't be treated and how. Now I know about the liberal false claims that it can't "ration", but it can because while it doesn't prohibit treatment just like in the dialysis example it can set the price so low that nobody will be able to do it. That's why they are saying technically they aren't rationing care, but if you refuse to pay for a treatment and people can't get it then it's just semantics.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/10/04/...-match-reality/

One from a medical publication

http://www.the-hospitalist.org/deta... /> bility.html

Here's one that covers some of the taxes, specifically the medical device tax that will hit every person that gets put in the hospital and has to have a line, graft, joint replacement, hernia mesh etc etc etc.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012..._obamacare.html

As for the health information, I personally watched the spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services give a press conference stating that HIPAA didn't apply to them and that Obamacare gave them the right to access all the personal health information of patients through the required electronic medical records. She promised just to use it for good, said they had to be able to do that to see if insurance companies really were complying by not rejecting pre-existing conditions and they had to have that info and because I am involved with it every day I know wha is being reported to them now. For example every doctor is required by law to record your body mass index and send it to them in their electronic medical record. It's a required measurement.

"The grant recipients will help fulfill the mandated Obamacare vision of a centralized patient-record database with unprecedented federal oversight. The provision is being challenged in court by the Goldwater Institute for forcing Americans to share “with millions of strangers who are not physicians confidential private and personal medical history information they do not wish to share.”"

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/obamacare...e#ixzz2IV5YQI9W

You can bet there is going to be a future "fat tax" or something come out of that information, liberals can't keep their hands out of other peoples pockets as it is they will eventually have a heyday with our medical information.

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Originally posted by Diggerman
"Gun violence" or gun accidents?Come on Ben ,your better than that. Automobile accident or automobile violence? Source please!( you really cannot count "thinkprogress as a source,can you?).

if you need another source here it is:
http://myfox8.com/2013/01/19/accide...at-nc-gun-show/

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This source will also tell me that they were "accidents" not "violence",correct ? So why did you report these as "acts of violence".Even the cheerleaders got tobe wondering, WTF?

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This source will also tell me that they were "accidents" not "violence",correct ? So why did you report these as "acts of violence".Even the cheerleaders got tobe wondering, WTF?

There goes that man cheerleader thing again! LOL!!

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There goes that man cheerleader thing again! LOL!!

better that than being obamas jock sniffer.

what happened to obamacare going into effect to keep costs down? thats right another lie. it was never about costs, it was about expanding coverage and control.

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better that than being obamas jock sniffer.

what happened to obamacare going into effect to keep costs down? thats right another lie. it was never about costs, it was about expanding coverage and control.

That's a good one,but still better than being a right wing romp rimmer!

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Better to be with the sane minority.....

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Yes it is and as trackdriver says, the minority lost. I guess your with the insane majority.

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Yes it is and as trackdriver says, the minority lost. I guess your with the insane majority.

I said that???? You gotta let that 47% way of thinking go and join the american people,conhtr1.

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I said that???? You gotta let that 47% way of thinking go and join the american people,conhtr1.

Some people are leaders and some are followers. Carry on sheeple. I'm not joining just to belong like some folks.

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Some people are leaders and some are followers. Carry on sheeple. I'm not joining just to belong like some folks.

Who's the president of the United States? LOL! Kinda hard for ya.right.

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Originally posted by truly
Better to be with the sane minority.....

Check this out:

5 People Shot At 3 Different Gun Shows On Gun Appreciation Day

Update
Two similar incidents occurred at entirely separate gun shows in the Midwest, one in the Cleveland suburb of Medina, Ohio and the other at the state fairgrounds in Indianapolis, Indiana. In Ohio, the local ABC affiliate reports that one individual was brought to a hospital by EMS, and in Indiana Channel 8 WISH says that an individual shot himself in the hand while trying to reload his gun in the show parking lot. That brings the tally to 4 victims of gun violence so far at three different gun shows during the country’s first Gun Appreciation Day.
Update

Update
CNN is reporting that three people were injured at the gun show in Raleigh, not two as originally reported. All were victims of a shotgun that fired while the owner was removing it from a case.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...preciation-day/

That is not gun violence. That is poor handling of a firearm. Nice try though.

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That is not gun violence. That is poor handling of a firearm. Nice try though.

violence
noun
1. the exercise or an instance of physical force, usually effecting or intended to effect injuries, destruction, etc.
2. powerful, untamed, or devastating force: the violence of the sea
3. great strength of feeling, as in language, etc.; fervour
4. an unjust, unwarranted, or unlawful display of force, esp such as tends to overawe or intimidate

Yes, by definition it is gun violence.

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Who's the president of the United States? LOL! Kinda hard for ya.right.

Not hard for me track. I'm doing fine. Google who is pres. Not my day to teach you.

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Not hard for me track. I'm doing fine. Google who is pres. Not my day to teach you.

Yep,made a guy a bet you wouldn't call his name.

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Yep,made a guy a bet you wouldn't call his name.

I probably helped you out more than the pres has. Glad to be of assistance.

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violence
noun

3. great strength of feeling, as in language, etc.; fervour

Yes, by definition it is gun violence.

OH I see!!!

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violence
noun
1. the exercise or an instance of physical force, usually "effecting" or intended to "effect" injuries, destruction, etc.

Are you sure "effect" was the word you were looking for? Maybe you should look that one up ! LOL

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Originally posted by trackdriver
You're right,but it's a honor to be named along side truly,wing,knox,lakeland

Your little minority there probably flock around in your little dresses with your heels and makeup on waiting for your turn to pull on obama way it sounds. I hope when it all goes down we get to see they came to yalls houses first... What a joke and call yourselves americans.

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Originally posted by trackdriver
You're right,but it's a honor to be named along side truly,wing,knox,lakeland

Your little minority there probably flock around in your little dresses with your heels and makeup on waiting for your turn to pull on obama way it sounds. I hope when it all goes down we get to see they came to yalls houses first... What a joke and call yourselves americans.

You show are fascinated with obama's privates. lol! And men in dresses! Ain't hard to find, right next to bastrop la.

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