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WHAT DO THE ONES YOU DO CALL BRING TO STOP A VIOLENT BREAK IN? TELL ME SMART GUY, SOME CANDY?

No, they bring a body bag. Just saying...

NRA is laughable at best. They actually think they can dictate the federal government. I support the 2nd Amendment plenty, but not through them.

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No, they bring a body bag. Just saying...

NRA is laughable at best. They actually think they can dictate the federal government. I support the 2nd Amendment plenty, but not through them.



If you do actually support the second ammendment, there is no more effective way than through an organization that represents gun owners rights through political pressure on the liberal idiots in washington. Thats the NRA.

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No, they bring a body bag. Just saying...

NRA is laughable at best. They actually think they can dictate the federal government. I support the 2nd Amendment plenty, but not through them.



So what do you do as an individual that has any bearing whatsoever on the legislation that is either pro or anti 2nd amendment rights. Or do you just sit there expecting everything to always be ok as a gun owner? Sorry but an individual acting alone doesnt have much pull as far as government is concerned! You can say you support our 2nd amendment rights but unless you act in some way how exactly are you supporting them? What other group is available out there that can even claim a fraction of the pro 2nd amendment wins as the nra? None!!! So, if any of you confused people that call yourselves hunters, houndsmen and outdoorsman and participate in any sports involving guns you'd better pull your heads out of your a**'s and do something to protect what we enjoy and is our constitutional right as an american citizen and at least I hope to be able to pass along for my sons to enjoy in the same way as I did growing up!

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So this country should have folk running with grenade launchers and nukes? So if fist and feet most favor assalt 'tools', then a knife is all you need by your own research.

No track, all I need to ward off a grenade launcher is my trusty hunting rifle. The launcher is no match for it's range. A nuke would be a stretch for an assault....mass murder maybe? Nice try though. I never said I wanted the next step up from what the perp had. I want the next step up from what they MIGHT use.

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No, they bring a body bag. Just saying...

NRA is laughable at best. They actually think they can dictate the federal government. I support the 2nd Amendment plenty, but not through them.



I just want to be well enough armed the body bag is for the bad guy. How about you?

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It is hard for me to understand how anyone how owns a gun could not suport the NRA.

The NRA is american as apple pie, for those of you that are against them, well you beat to a different drum and have been brain washed and need to to do some soul searching. Shame, shame on you.

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What does this mean to you?

Article [II.]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


To me it means that we the people need to be able to protect ourselves from not just criminals but from an oppressive government as well. Is that not what happened during the Revolutionary War? Citizen militias were organized to not just protect themselves but to fight British rule. Did our founding fathers know to what level weaponry would advance to? It doesn't matter! The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If they come with military issue weapons you better have the same. This is not a fight about personal protection this is about protecting America the free!

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You folks on here that has never had the uniform on or served your country in any shape, form or fashion, military or other wise, has no right to be telling me or anybody else what kind of gun I or nobody else can or can not have. I would bet that 75% of you have never been in the service and don't know how to fight for anything, let alone, 2nd amendment. You think that bad mouthing your fellow man on this forum is fighting for your rights. Now this is liberal or conservative, republican or democrat, that is what this country has turned in to.

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You folks on here that has never had the uniform on or served your country in any shape, form or fashion, military or other wise, has no right to be telling me or anybody else what kind of gun I or nobody else can or can not have. I would bet that 75% of you have never been in the service and don't know how to fight for anything, let alone, 2nd amendment. You think that bad mouthing your fellow man on this forum is fighting for your rights. Now this is liberal or conservative, republican or democrat, that is what this country has turned in to.


No, liberals support controlling citizens and making sure they are able to continue stealing from everybody that they think makes more than them and calling it 'their fair share'.

That's why they want to disarm the US citizens, to make it easier to bully the citizens. Liberals are the ones trying to tell you what kind of guns you can and can't have.

Conservatives stand up for individual rights, it's none of my business what guns you have nor is it my business to tell you you can't have them. Same for me. That's why Conservatives are right on the gun issue.

I think it's hilarious that New York in their haste made every cop a criminal by outlawing their guns. They are scrambling to make exceptions for them. I don't think they should, what's good for the citizens is good for them all.

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No, liberals support controlling citizens and making sure they are able to continue stealing from everybody that they think makes more than them and calling it 'their fair share'.

That's why they want to disarm the US citizens, to make it easier to bully the citizens. Liberals are the ones trying to tell you what kind of guns you can and can't have.

Conservatives stand up for individual rights, it's none of my business what guns you have nor is it my business to tell you you can't have them. Same for me. That's why Conservatives are right on the gun issue.

I think it's hilarious that New York in their haste made every cop a criminal by outlawing their guns. They are scrambling to make exceptions for them. I don't think they should, what's good for the citizens is good for them all.

Cons.stand for cons. privileges,and anything right wing groups tell them.

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if the nra is doing a great job what are you

guys bitching about

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No track, all I need to ward off a grenade launcher is my trusty hunting rifle. The launcher is no match for it's range. A nuke would be a stretch for an assault....mass murder maybe? Nice try though. I never said I wanted the next step up from what the perp had. I want the next step up from what they MIGHT use.


Have you ever fired an M-79 or know the different kinds of rounds they can fire? They have rounds that fire buckshot. So you would take your knife against a man with a sawed off shogun (M-79). Good luck!

If you want to use assault guns, join the Marines.

This oppressive government talk sounds like treason to me.

The NRA has done nothing for me. It supports corporate rip offs.

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Have you ever fired an M-79 or know the different kinds of rounds they can fire? They have rounds that fire buckshot. So you would take your knife against a man with a sawed off shogun (M-79). Good luck!

If you want to use assault guns, join the Marines.

This oppressive government talk sounds like treason to me.

The NRA has done nothing for me. It supports corporate rip offs.



I think you are missing the point Redtick.

What they are talking about "outlawing" or "banning" are not assault weapons.

Those have been heavily regulated for a very, very long time. You must put up a large bond and get approved to get an assault weapon.

By definition assault weapons are FULLY automatic. None of the weapons we are discussing are assault weapons. The AR, AK and others are SEMI automatic therefore are positively NOT assault weapons, they are hunting and self defense weapons period because they do not meet the definition of assault weapon.

They are no different than any other semiauto, including a 22.

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Lol and my point exactly. These right wingers think the nra ratified the 2nd Amendment. If you think the nra has some kind of pull with the federal government, then you are brainwashed. Nra crowd is no different from 'Save The Whales' crowd.
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Sorry but an individual acting alone doesnt have much pull as far as government is concerned!
That is a typical right winger statement. Every single person rights are protected under the Constitution Of The United States. EVERYONE. Its works for the masses just as well as individuals. Anyone try to disarm me enough that I can't defend my life, and I will use my personal rights under the 2nd Amendment to walk all over them *in court of law*. I don't need the nra to do it either.

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Lol and my point exactly. These right wingers think the nra ratified the 2nd Amendment. If you think the nra has some kind of pull with the federal government, then you are brainwashed. Nra crowd is no different from 'Save The Whales' crowd.
That is a typical right winger statement. Every single person rights are protected under the Constitution Of The United States. EVERYONE. Its works for the masses just as well as individuals. Anyone try to disarm me enough that I can't defend my life, and I will use my personal rights under the 2nd Amendment to walk all over them. I don't need the nra to do it either.



No you just need the NRA to help make sure liberal politicians don't strip you of your 2nd ammendment rights by denying you the opportunity to protect yourself from enemies, no matter if they are common street thugs or a tyrannical gubment.

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No you just need the NRA to help make sure liberal politicians don't strip you of your 2nd ammendment rights by denying you the opportunity to protect yourself from enemies, no matter if they are common street thugs or a tyrannical gubment.
And that my friend is where you are dead WRONG. All I need is the 2nd and whats on my side and in my gun cabinet.

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And that my friend is where you are dead WRONG. All I need is the 2nd and whats on my side and in my gun cabinet.


What you seem to be failing to be able to comprehend here is the simple fact that this "right" that you keep throwing around is in jeopardy of being taken from you, one little step at a time. WITHOUT THE NRA AND LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER TO DEFEND and support THE 2ND YOU WILL NOT HAVE IT! And yes because of the nra you do have that right as an individual.

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Lol and my point exactly. These right wingers think the nra ratified the 2nd Amendment. If you think the nra has some kind of pull with the federal government, then you are brainwashed. Nra crowd is no different from 'Save The Whales' crowd.
That is a typical right winger statement. Every single person rights are protected under the Constitution Of The United States. EVERYONE. Its works for the masses just as well as individuals. Anyone try to disarm me enough that I can't defend my life, and I will use my personal rights under the 2nd Amendment to walk all over them *in court of law*. I don't need the nra to do it either.



So I guess you are one of the .1% then that are in this country that have enough money and clout to to lobby and sway the politicians vote and act as an individual lobbiest to protect your rights all by yourself? You think these modern politicians truly care about this constitution? Only if it gets them votes for that particular issue! These idiots in the whitehouse would do away with your 2nd amendment rights completely in a heartbeat if they could. And bama is at least smart enough to know he cantjust cross it immediately off the list so he is working on the next best thing. Taking a little bit at a time little by little and hoping his little herd of sheep such as yourself dont notice and just go along with it because its only for their own good. WAKE UP MAN!

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have enough money and clout to lobby and sway the politicians vote.....

Yeah politicians are expensive I guess.

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What you seem to be failing to be able to comprehend here is the simple fact that this "right" that you keep throwing around is in jeopardy of being taken from you, one little step at a time. WITHOUT THE NRA AND LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER TO DEFEND and support THE 2ND YOU WILL NOT HAVE IT! And yes because of the nra you do have that right as an individual.
wasting time argueing with these people, they rather support the tyrant UNITED NATIONS, and let them take over; AMERICA. they would be just fine with that.

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Have you ever fired an M-79 or know the different kinds of rounds they can fire? They have rounds that fire buckshot. So you would take your knife against a man with a sawed off shogun (M-79). Good luck!




Not what I said. Reread my post . Sniffed to much agent orange over there?

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If you want to use assault guns, join the Marines.



Why not be a CB like you?. I don't feel a need to fire an assault weapon. I prefer a defense weapon. An assault weapon is fully automatic. I think it was you that said firing 2 to 3 per burst was better?

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This oppressive government talk sounds like treason to me.



Maybe you need to look up the definition of treason.

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Everything good comes with a price , we have enjoyed alot of freedoms and lifestyle that others fought to build .... starting to look like we are gonna get the chance to fight for freedom again here on our own soil .... it's gonna be ugly , but talking or arguing or politics are not getting it done.

You Obama supporters better get in shape , cuz I dang sure am and after seeing the anti's outlaw anything fun and taking away my rights and my paycheck .... I'm done listening to yall yap , it's time we get to really know each other !!!

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Have you ever fired an M-79 or know the different kinds of rounds they can fire? They have rounds that fire buckshot. So you would take your knife against a man with a sawed off shogun (M-79). Good luck!

If you want to use assault guns, join the Marines.

This oppressive government talk sounds like treason to me.

The NRA has done nothing for me. It supports corporate rip offs.




The M 79 has been replaced by the M 203 for some time.Try to keep up to date if you are going to act like you know what you are talking about.
Last I knew a seabee was nothing but a navy construction worker.or the navy's version of what the army calls a engineer.

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The M 79 has been replaced by the M 203 for some time.Try to keep up to date if you are going to act like you know what you are talking about.
Last I knew a seabee was nothing but a navy construction worker.or the navy's version of what the army calls a engineer.

Wow!!! so you ever fired a m 79? lol!!

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The NRA is in cahoots with the gun manufacturers and ammo makers. They in business for selling guns and ammo and all the John Q. Publics think they are trying to keep the government from taking our guns. Now come on. Even I know bettern that. Do a little googling about NRA, about that big headquarters building and who all work in there, what kind of staff they have and the salaries. and the money they make extra, going all over the country making speachs all expenses paid for by the members. Oh yeah. They are the reason that more guns are being sold and most of the folks that are buying them already have more guns than you need and most of them can't afford that $1200 AR. Yep all because the NRA said that Obama is going to get your guns. I watch a lot of news and I have never heard him say that, but I do talk to some that says that they have heard him say it. There will never be a day that they take our guns from us. Just keep on believing the NRA though and keep on buying. Done got where a poor man like me with just a 22 and a shotgun that has answered every need that I have had, can't even buy bullets for them. If you don't think that an auto 22 with 15 bullets and a single barrel shot gun with 00 buckshot can't put out the fire power, just try rattling my door some night.

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