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Well Jim I do care or I wouldnt have started this post and after reading brads link I see its circled,sorry if were not all geniuses like you!

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Jesse, if you knew me , you'd know I'm no genius or even very smart, ask them that does know me. But I did make it pass 3rd grade and this question was answered on here so long ago and so many times that it is just hard for me to accept that anyone could still not get it. But I guess you do finally and if making you think I'm a smartass is all it took, well, I can live with that.

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I no your not Jim im just not so sure you relize your not.

If its so simple why was I told wrong by a MOH just last night? And a MOH I no you think very highly of.

I got confused because of rule 18 and how it got worded just because SOME people on this msg board say a rule is 1 wsy dont mean im gonna change all my ways of thinking,sorry i didnt just except the 1st response,from now on ill believe evedything I hear and read on the ukc msg board!

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I no your not Jim im just not so sure you relize your not.

If its so simple why was I told wrong by a MOH just last night? And a MOH I no you think very highly of.

I got confused because of rule 18 and how it got worded just because SOME people on this msg board say a rule is 1 wsy dont mean im gonna change all my ways of thinking,sorry i didnt just except the 1st response,from now on ill believe evedything I hear and read on the ukc msg board!

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we had a 2 to 2 vote on slick or circle and someone questioned it in the zone hunt..... couldnt believe the master of hounds said it was to be deleted until i showed him in the advisor different

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we had a 2 to 2 vote on slick or circle and someone questioned it in the zone hunt..... couldnt believe the master of hounds said it was to be deleted until i showed him in the advisor different

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patches: not just a MOH, a UKC field rep would have been running the zones.

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patches: not just a MOH, a UKC field rep would have been running the zones.

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coonhoud advisory ukc sells them for 15 oo if u comp hunt buy u one

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coonhoud advisory ukc sells them for 15 oo if u comp hunt buy u one

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For all of those saying you NEVER delete tree points, riddle me this.....

Four dog cast a,b,c,d all treed together. Treed in den tree with crack in the side. Hunting judge and one handler say plus it up that's a coon. Other two handlers say minus it is a possum.
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For all of those saying you NEVER delete tree points, riddle me this.....

Four dog cast a,b,c,d all treed together. Treed in den tree with crack in the side. Hunting judge and one handler say plus it up that's a coon. Other two handlers say minus it is a possum.
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CIRCLE its so simple, anytime their is no majority in agreement the tree is circled PERIOD.
Its not true that tree points are never deleted, if dogs are treed on a previously scored tree ALL points are deleted.

Hunting judge doesnt matter, scoring a tree is ALWAYS a voting situation. 1 hunter 1 vote.

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What if it was 2-2 vote but the hunting judge voted possum?

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Anybody else got an opinion on this or agree with John? Didn't get to go hunting tonight so figured I'd stir the proverbial pot some. Remember about the time you go relying on what you think you know those pesky rules turn on you again. LOL. Who says internet coon hunting is no fun?

And just so you know both of John's answers are wrong so far. Anybody know why?

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Why does everyone keep bringing up question about "if hunting judge"
IF THE VOTE IS 2 TO 2 IT'S CIRCLED NO MATTER HOW THE HUNTING JUDGE VOTES, IT TAKES A MAJORITY TO PLUS OR MINUS A TREE. Why is this so hard to understand?

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Anybody else got an opinion on this or agree with John? Didn't get to go hunting tonight so figured I'd stir the proverbial pot some. Remember about the time you go relying on what you think you know those pesky rules turn on you again. LOL. Who says internet coon hunting is no fun?

And just so you know both of John's answers are wrong so far. Anybody know why?

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Now your going to say that because the judge said possum that the dogs would be minus right.

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What if it was 2-2 vote but the hunting judge voted minus for possum?

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What the hunting judge thinks here matters very much. If he thinks it's off game is that a judgement he makes or a majority cast vote?

See rules 4(a) and 18(b)1-4

Still think it's circled?

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OK smart guy forget that i been at this for 50 years. Why are my answers incorrect?

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Show me whereUKC. has said this would be a delete situation just because something is There?

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Page 29 of the original Adviser under "What If".

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I dont have an old one around but i will take your word on it. Live and learn.

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John

I very much respect your opinions on the rules and agree with your views on them 95% of the time. However Jesse was stuck on a rule and it prevented him from seeing what most thought was obvious. However I have been right where he is. I remember arguing with Jim and Todd Kellam about the old rule of a dog being shut out on strike was not accountable for his strike points. It was in black and white but I couldn't get the dog will be minused rules out of my head. Looking back I was being a stubborn ass. But I really couldn't get my mind to overlook rule 4(e).

Obviously I'm still an ass but I try to be less stubborn and more understanding when someone gets something stuck in their head. I guess the point of my posts were to show even the most basic rules we go by and are correct 99% of the time can have exceptions that can cause our minds to hang up on what we "know". I knew that scenario would get someone to bite... sorry it had to be you.

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Page 29 of the original Adviser under "What If".

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