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i would buy one to try but ive been satisfied with my dc 40's

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I would by one if it meant more consistant connection to the handheld. I have the dc30s and dc40s and the 30s are much better at keeping connected to the handhelds than the 40s are.

So give me a 50 that will stay linked and give me a little more range

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quote:
Originally posted by oldman
if the breeders would go back to breeding coon dogs instead of competition dogs you wouldn't need all that junk anyway.it's supposed to be coon hunting not dog hunting.
breed the sense back into the hounds so they will handle & not leave for the next county before they can find a hot enough track they can smell then tree up the wrong tree about 50% of the time.



Another useless post. Started out hunting without one, and spent many hours wandering around in a pickup hoping to hear a hound off in the distance, now I know right where my hound is, and have a pretty good idea where she is heading. Average run around here is about a mile, some short slam dunks, but then there is some that range over two miles from dumping the dogs to tree. Can't stand posts like that. You can ride a horse to get where you are going, but today, why would you?

I personally wouldn't buy the DC50's unless they were awfully special and compatible with the 220. I have been using the 220 with the second generation DC30's and I love them. I added the after market antennas, and usually get a mile range on them. As far as battery life, I charge them before each use and have no problems. The 50 would have to have something pretty incredible for me to change over.

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I purchased a modified DC 40 from Double U Hunting supply last year and it work better in my area then the DC 30's and the regular DC 40's the people I hunt with. Very seldom lose signal within a 1 to 11/2 mile radius. Use the longer antenna on hand held and the antenna that was on the collar it can with. Works a lot better then the reg. collar that came with the 320. My collar from Double U sounds like the 50 everyone is talking about here and I've had mine for a year.

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quote:
Originally posted by Virgil
They don't need to come out with a DC-50, what they need to do is start making the DC-30's again.
x2x2x2x2 i love my dc 30s have never had a dc40 that would track whith my 30s and have stayed away from the 20s all togather

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Garmin Astro DC50

Since the Cat is out of the bag now on the DC50.

Here is some information about them.

http://www.dusupply.com/garmin-astr...o-320-dc50.html
http://www.dusupply.com/garmin-astro-dc50.html

Garmin DC50 Review

I was pretty vocal and critical about the DC40's and when they were first announced. This New DC50 collar is Extremely well built and will smoke a DC40 when comparing GPS Signals.

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if 320 is upgraded to track dc50 will it still track 20,30,40 collars ?

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Good question, YES.

You just can't track the DC50's with a 220 because there is not a software update for the 220, and the collar uses a Different communication for the DC50 . But to answer your question,

Yes you could track DC30's, DC40's and DC50's with a 320

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DC50 collar:


Integral Rescue Mode automatically conserves batteries after they reach 25% charge.
Better GPS signal on the DC50 because
GPS receiver mounted to top of collar like previous DC30 collar
GLONASS enabled GPS allows collar to track more satellites
Longer, more durable VHF antenna with braided steel core provides better communication.
Bark Detection gives you real-time info on how much your dogs are barking in the field.
Tool-less design makes for fast, easy changes of collar straps without the need for tools
Waterproof up to 10 meters


For Users with an Astro 320 handheld:



DC50’s will only track on the 320.
Users can update the software on older Astro 320 handhelds to track the DC50.
For instructions on how to update your Astro, visit our How-to Section “link” (needs link)





Key features of the Garmin Astro DC50 Tracking & Training GPS Collar


Better Tracking: High-sensitivity, top-mounted GPS receiver is now enabled to receive signals from GLONASS (Global Navigation Satellite System) satellites. This adds 21 more satellites your collar can connect with (in addition to the 28 satellites currently in the GPS system), helping eliminate dropped satellite connections in rough country and deep cover.
Bark Detection: The DC50’s new Bark Detection feature is a first in the dog tracking industry. When enabled, users can see the rate-per-minute at which each of their dogs is barking, even when out of audible range. Each dog’s bark status is displayed on both the map screen and the individual dog screen and compass screen. Since some users may not want to have bark rates displayed on the map screen, there is an option to turn it off on the map screen while keeping it active on the other screens. Another option with Bark Detection is the ability to set a “minimum bark-rate threshold;” this allows users to establish a minimum rate of barks per minute—either 20, 40, 60, or 80 bpm—before they are alerted by their Astro 320. In short, Bark Detection will be especially beneficial when your hounds are out of hearing range and you’re trying to decipher if they’re just trailing, or have already jumped or treed your prey.
Rescue Mode: Rescue Mode is another feature that’s new to the Astro line of tracking collars. It’s a battery saving function that, when activated, automatically switches your collar update rate to once every 2 minutes (120 seconds) when the battery has declined to 25% of a full charge. This is designed to give users many additional hours to retrieve a dog before the collar battery dies—however, note that Rescue Mode can be shut off if a user doesn’t wish to have their update rate changed.
Better VHF Antenna: The DC50 sports a longer, more flexible VHF antenna made of aircraft-grade braided steel, which greatly improves both range and durability over previous DC collar antennas. DC50 antennas are available in both 18.5” and 22.5”, with the 22.5” coming stock on the DC50 from the Garmin factory.
Fast Collar-strap Changes: Modeled after the Garmin Alpha TT10, collar straps on the DC50 easily slide through integral channels on the collar box, eliminating the need for tools when you want to quickly change collar straps. Any universal D-ring collar strap (or TriTronics EXP strap) will slide right onto your tracking unit in seconds. A huge plus with this setup is that you can first slide on an EXP or any other shock collar with a 1” strap, and then slide on your DC50, allowing for fewer collars on your dog.
Improved Charging Port: The charging port on the DC50 is a vast improvement over the hookup on the widely popular DC30. It comes standard with a USB interface, which gives you 3 connection options when you need to charge: you can plug into an AC outlet, a vehicle charge port, or the USB port on a computer. This is especially handy when it’s time to run a software update on your collar; all you have to do is attach the charging clip, plug your DC50 into your computer, and run Garmin Web Updater.
Helpful Tone Indicator: Another welcome difference between the DC30/DC40 collars and the new DC50 is the audible tone it provides when you successfully add a collar to your Astro 320 handheld; this confirms that you’ve added the correct collar when there are other collars in the immediate vicinity. A tone will also sound when you successfully change most settings on your Astro 320/DC50 combo. For example: when you change dog type to “treeing dog,” your DC50 will beep to let you know you did it right.
Exclusive PIN Lock: The PIN Lock function allows users to select and store a 4-digit code for each of their collars so no one else can track their dogs without inputting the code. Although this is not a must-have feature in most hunting situations, it could be very useful in competitions, or when you’re out with a large group of fellow hunters and their hounds equipped with Astros and DC collars.
Adjustable Dog Type: Using the updated Astro 320, you can change the status for each of your dogs wearing a DC50 to reflect what they’re doing. Your options are 1) Pointing, 2) Treeing, 3) Auto, and 4) None. This lets your Astro know that when your dog is sitting still, he or she could still be on point or have game treed.
Better Power Button Placement: The power button on the DC50 has been relocated to the bottom of the collar box, which protects it from being accidentally switched off by other collars on your dog, or by “unpredictables” like sharp rocks, fallen branches or the occasional ingenious coon. The improved placement will also provide more protection from everyday wear and tear, which you’ll appreciate since we see a lot of DC30s and DC40s come in with cracks or holes in the rubber cover that seals the power button; this allows moister to get in and cause corrosion, which ultimately kills the collar.
Antenna Protection Sleeve: With the DC50, you’ll no longer have to rig up protective nylon sleeves that stink and deteriorate over time, or use zip ties and electrical tape to secure your loose antennas. The new DC50 comes with a thick, durable rubber cover that not only protects the antenna core, but also keeps your antenna erect and receiving satellite signals. The cover is very durable and can be scrubbed clean easily if your hound has traipsed through the mud to chase down game.
Track Up To 10 Dogs: The Astro 320 can track up to 10 different collars and/or buddies simultaneously, in any combination. This means you’ll be able to get real-time location fixes on ten of your hounds, or 5 hounds and 5 buddies, or any combination of either that adds up to 10.




Unit dimensions and Specifications

, WxHxD: 3.5” x 1.9” x 1.8” (9.0 x 4.9 x 4.6 cm)

Collar length: 12" (30.5 cm) to 20" (50.8 cm) adjustable collar

Weight:

7.2 oz (212.0 g) for transmitter and antenna
10.2 oz (228.0 g) total weight
Battery: Li-Ion rechargeable

Battery life: 26-54 hours (user adjustable transmit rate of 5, 10, 30 or 120 seconds)

Waterproof: 10 m (33 ft)

High-sensitivity receiver: yes

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Yes you can track dc30's and dc40's as well as the new dc50.

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GLONASS satellites.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/world....html?hpt=hp_t2

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GLONASS satellites.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/world....html?hpt=hp_t2

Well they might have to delay it. I guess. They trying every way in the world to make us 220 users buy something else

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Well they might have to delay it. I guess. They trying every way in the world to make us 220 users buy something else


I don't see it that way.. The way I see it is they keep trying to make a better product for everyone. They read these boards and see what everyone says about their product and they try to make one that will satisfy their customers.

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I just read were johnson telemetry has dc 50 for sale

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I don't see it that way.. The way I see it is they keep trying to make a better product for everyone. They read these boards and see what everyone says about their product and they try to make one that will satisfy their customers.
You still test for them?

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220 and dc40

I bought the 220 and have 2 DC40 collars, purchased it just months before the 320 came out. Has been a good unit, have 1 collar that has more range than the other, have tried antennas etc. just doesn't update as quick and is lost a lot at longer ranges? I just run it on the not so deep hounds. And unit still looks like brand new except for a little button wear. Not gonna buy anything new until they have a rock solid good system by who ever it may be, Still got my old Johnson collars and wildlife beep beep(never lost a dog with it!)

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I will be getting a dc50 to pair with my 320 ive had problems with losing sig on my dc40 a bit and from the description of the 50 its seems to be the best of all the systems combined. cant wait to try one. course my uncle still uses his wildlife beep beep and he can just about tell you exactly where the dogs are and what they're doing.

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You still test for them?


I did on this one anyway. lol

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Re: 220 and dc40

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I bought the 220 and have 2 DC40 collars, purchased it just months before the 320 came out. Has been a good unit, have 1 collar that has more range than the other, have tried antennas etc. just doesn't update as quick and is lost a lot at longer ranges? I just run it on the not so deep hounds. And unit still looks like brand new except for a little button wear. Not gonna buy anything new until they have a rock solid good system by who ever it may be, Still got my old Johnson collars and wildlife beep beep(never lost a dog with it!)


I haven't lost one with my Garmins either. I do not own a beep beep system now.

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I've had both the 220 and 320 units and 320 has alot more to offer than 220. I run dc40 collars and they do pretty good in the mountains that we hunt. We drop single some but it picks it back up pretty quick most times. If the dc50 is what they say it is with double the range in steep terrain mts. then i'll be puttin them on my hounds at night. Garmin makes a good system but they need to make sure all the bugs are out and test these collars before hunters spend their money in these products. I'm all for improvement but not every 6 months. Lol ! The dc50 has alot more to offer than my dc40, but i'm not sure a coon hunter needs to know how many times a dog barks on a track, but it's worth the money just to get that extra range when i need it.

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Don't forget about the guys that still haven't switched...

I can't be the only beep beep user left!


If I didn't read all the ups and downs I may have one....but to me, they got enough issues I wanna see fixed....

Range mostly....I hear varying ranges...even in the same state...even at the same hunt side by side....most aren't near long enough for me...

Take my beep beep ton the top of the hill and I WILL know what direction my dog is...

My buddy tracked his a fee times at different hunts now with the beep beep where the rest of the cast didn't have their dog Lorna direction to even guess....he got his and the rest got lucky theirs were there too...


8-12 mile or whatever they say sounds AWESOME but field results of hundreds of yards are about the norm...600-800yds is the average number I hear from users in my area...not near far enough IMO...

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220 dc40

Only real problem I have had with the Garmin is during a hunt, when you must power it off, If dog gets real deep in hilly conditions or maybe dug under something they are lost! Be nice if they would let you leave powered up as long as no tones or turned on. That way you would at least know the last place they were to start looking for a signal (Mud packed collars will render useless if have to try to reconnect)
But for the most part a great tool, especially on the time outs.
Couldn't be with out it now

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quote:
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You're dreaming if you think Garmin is going to spend one thin dime on R&D for the anything ASTRO. They are putting all their eggs in the Alpha basket. They aren't about to develop anything or do anything to encourage anyone to ever again buy an Astro. Look for them to be discontinued in the not too distant future.



Looks like you are wrong....

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/garmin-dc-50/

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Looks like.

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garmin 50 and collar 40

hi everyone!
sorry for my English, i'm french but i hope you could understand me.
i have some questions. i have the garmin astro 320 DC 40 and the collar 40.
i want to buy the new garmin astro 320 DC 50. I just want to know if the collar from the DC40 are compatible with the garmin 50. Or if i had to buy the collar.
tx a lot in advance!
Fabien

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