rance56
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Jacksonville FL
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first off i didnt let the tail wag the dog. what i mean by that is that i didnt choose a line of blues to hunt, i choose a style of blue and that lead me to this line. i didnt know nobody in the bluetick world and my hunting buddies all had walkers or english. so for me, it was soley about finding a coondog.
i want one to do what its going to do in a hurry, be able to do it by itself, do it in a manner that i enjoy, and do it right the majority of the time.
why rattler? well rattler has the numer and age on his pups to be able to definetly get a read on what he is throwing across a variety of females and lines and the proof is in the pudding. there might be dogs out there now that eventually turn out to be better, but they have yet to prove it or had the opportunity to do it at this poitn in time. so im going to stick with what i know as fact. i wanted track speed first and foremost, rattlers name kept popping up in these discussions. i wanted independence, again rattler kept popping up. so i knew he was the style of dog i wanted. he also had the breeding that i liked, it was obvious bullet on jet 5 females was working, look at rattler, runnin gun(the whole bulletX becky cross for that matter), appels bullet, and blaze the sire of my sassy gyp. on top of that his sire bullet has the highest percentage and chief the grandsire has numerous direct offspring on the reproducers list. then most importanly look at what rattler was/is throwing, this was years before he made the reproducers list but tony was hunting and winning with dogs out of rattler that were at a young age and he could point you to several others that had dogs off him that were wiining. none of this pleasure hunters garbage, every stud is going to have offspring in the worng hands so i dont want to hear that argument. world champions are bought every year, dont tell me some pleasure hunters dog cant be bought if he is nice enough for some one to REALLY want him. we have 2 females off of rat from 2 different litters, both are independant, early starting, hard going TREE dogs. if this truely isnt the case why would i be bringing 2 more females to bred to him this year. here it is folks, take it for what its worth. the best advertisement a stud owner can do is hunt and win with young dogs off his stud, the best endorsment someone can give another mans stud is breed you top personal females to him. you got both going on in rattler.
as for the rest of the list, bullet 2 is early in his reproducing career but his offspring are already making a mark in the hunts and proving to be a special type hound, not just some ole pups you can knock around with and win alittle at the local hunts, but real classy type dogs. also where else are you going to find the breeding he has in a smokey river stud? bullet and june were as good as they get.
rock, he has the numbers and the breeding, where else are you going to find diamond jim in the 3rd generation in a top hound.
tramp- has the numbers, was from an all grand litter that most reproduced also, and produced 2 world champion blueticks, again tough blood to find elsewhere that close up in a top dog.
hammer 18, maybe the last of a long great line, some real top hounds out there directly off him that are still getting it done, get it while you can cause you might never find another hammer stud like him again.
hornet, the next in a long line of great reproducers, has the numbers, throwing tree dogs you might not be able to find anywhere else,
bobo, finally a rambo stud stepping up to the forefront? looks to be so, again early in reprodcuing career, but already has produced a gr nt and has a female winning all over the country from another cross, where else can you touch his pedigree for that type breeding. and yes he has the looks. also i was told if brian lucas hunts/promotes he is a coondog
dancer, knock him if you want to, but im not completely sold you are going to get mean dogs if you breed to him, ive seen winners from several different females crossed on him, has it all, looks, pedigree and hutning/reproducing ability
tree thumpin lead, has the numbers, throwback type dog, hard going, gamey, independant track dogs, tough to find type blood elsewhere
b& d spike,just have a gut feeling on this dog, has hard to find blood behind him upclose, repdroduced the crook dog and have also heard of others winning in the hunts.
why rc on the watch list? cause he has only proven to be able to cross well on one female. im real big on going on proven commodities, after rc's other crosses get some age on them, then you can get a true accurate read, until then its just a guessing game on what he is going to throw with other females. for me to breed to a dog he has to have winners from atleast 3 different crosses and a couple of different blooded females. i might miss out on a stud that dies early, but in the long run i think ill come out ahead by always breeding to a fully proven dog.
im not worried about long haired dogs, i got one myself and seen her stand up just fine in the absolute toughest of conditions, i guess the dog and the hunter just need to be as tough as each other. bring your dogs down to the briars, heat, and dust of south georgia and we will see who gives out first and who can consistantly tree coon in these conditions.
something to think about-every dog or line has a fault, if mine is in the looks i know what the fault is, where are the others faults hidden and do you want to find out firsthand for yourself?
i could only list one dog as my top dog, and i hope i didnt or dotn offend any body by. alot of this is going to be determined by my personal preference. i hope to those that read this on here that they understand if i plan to breed a gyp to your dog down the line or hunting a pup off him, that i was very selective in doing so and by no way thing your dog takes a back seat to any. like i said i have personal preferences and i like to go with the older proven dogs while i can. that being said, if rat was 2 years old and had this track record i would still be breeding to him. hopefully if you dont care for what i say on here and dont know me otherwise, you will still let me breed a gyp to your stud if that is the case down the line.
as for pads and reproducers lists, they are tools but by no means end alls. i want a dog that has proven to reproduce acorss numerous females and lines and the pups that are in competion hunters hands are showing up in the winners circles at young ages. im sorry but 5 titled dogs out of 100 does not do it for me, and that will get you on the list. this is not pointed at any dog in particular, just my line of thinking in general
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