John Ferrari
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Recently Mr Gephardt said, "I was wrong about the war." Why. and the comments leading up to that.
2001-09-12, the White House, a bipartisan leadership meeting:
GEPHARDT to BUSH: "We have to trust each other. You have to trust us, and we have to trust you.
Late 2001 - early 2002:
Like others, GEPHARDT hears the grapevine buzz about Iraq in DC corridors of power inside the Bush White House.
"If Saddam didn't attack us, he should have, because we're going to take him out anyway".
February, 2002:
GEPHARDT to BUSH: You have my support if it's about Weapons of Mass Destruction -- but not if it's about Saddam. "If it's about Saddam there are 30 countries we need to invade tomorrow morning
GEPHARDT to BUSH: The US can't go into this alone. If it's done, it has to be done multilaterally -- with regional partners, NATO, the UN.
BUSH to GEPHARDT: "Dick, I'm gonna do what you've been talking about I will work with NATO, regional partners, and the UN
Insiders later hinted that WMD wasn't (variously) the central, sole, or real reason for invading Iraq, that it was agreed among the principals as a politically plausible casus belli
Deputy SecDef Paul Paul Wolfowitz 2003-05-09 " ... for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason ...".]
GEPHARDT: "George, do you believe?" [in the WMD thesis]
DCI TENET: "Absolutely."
2005-10-11, Seattle, WA:
GEPHARDT: "It was a mistake ... I was wrong."
The Rose Garden compact was a mistake. The War Powers vote was a mistake. Trusting this Administration was a mistake.
And this history suggests -- in the tradition of a classic sales training parable, the farmer's daughter joke -- that Gephardt (the prospect) telegraphed exactly what Bush (the salesman) had to say to clinch the sale. "Dick, I'm gonna do what you've been talking about". A mistake.
Bush had Mr Gephardt support because Bush Said he would work with the UN, NATO, with regional partners. Well history shows he did not do this and he trusted Mr Bush that he would do exactly what he said. Wrong he was lied too.
All these people that have died in the Iraq war are not Republican or Democratic, but Americans.
I am sure their are both Republicans and Democratic are fighting in this war. Some may not agree with going to war, but they are doing their job.
This country of today is so divided. This president ran on being a uniter not a divider. Like my good friend Dick Gephardt told me. At one time Democats and Republicans fight hard for their differing convictions on the floor of the house, then go afterward for a friendly beer together. Now democratic and republicans don't even make eye contact when they pass one another in the halls of Congress, unless it's to exchange furious glares. The problem today extends far beyond Washington. The same hate hostile, partisan atmosphere is seen in state legislatures and city councils and return is turning our citizens this way. Dick also told me that at first he liked our president and thought he could trust him not because he was not a Democrat or Republican but a good honest man. He found out later he could not trust him. One thing and this is true that our president made fun of Gephardt family because he was raised poor and his family were rich.
Now before you bash Mr. Gephardt I remember him on Dec, 19, 1998 standing in vote of the congress in support of Bob Livingston a Republican from Louisiana in which he was going to be elected the new majority leader in congress. This was a time when every Republican was wanting Clinton out of office for having an affair. Mr Livingston also was having an affair with another women. Mr. Gephardt said, "Our founding fathers created a system of government of men, not of angels. No one standing in this House today can pass a puritanical test of purity that some are demanding that our elected leaders take.
Mr. Gephardt told me about NAFTA. In 1990 President Bush was responding to then Mexico president Calos Salinas calls wanting a trade agreement. In early 1992 President Bush was trying to bring NAFTA to a close, but it was not to be because President Clinton got to be president. Yes, NAFTA was signed with Bill Clinton in office, but alot of things were taken out because it would of been worse then it was. Mr. Gephardt would not support NAFTA because of side agreements were put in the bill by Mexico in which they did not have to enforce labor or environment laws if broken resulting in two years from 500,000 workers on the border to now millions of Mexico workers making less money then when the treaty was signed.
I call Mr Gephardt the best president we never had. Alot of the people on this board is worth more then him. Just check it out.
I feel until we treat are fellow Americans with respect our country will have a long hau
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