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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE UKC MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT BEFORE A DOG CAN BE TITLED SHOW OR NITE CHAMPION IT SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE FIRST THAT IT CAN TREE A REAL LIVE COON BY ITSELF LETS SEE HOW MANY CAN DO IT OR LETS COME OUT WITH A NEW MAGAZINE TITLED HTX STUDS BET IT WONT BE SO MANY TO CHOSE FROM LOL

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JUST IN CASE ANY OF YOU WHO LOVE HTX

YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO COME AND HUNT WITH ME TONIGHT OR ANY NIGHT YOU WOULD LIKE I WILL SHOW YOU A NT CH THAT WILL TREE A COON AND NOT LEAVE THE TREE

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I am not saying all ntch and grnts are fake I have seen alot of good ones and I also have tried a bunch that I wouldnt give 50 cents for I drove an hour plus and tried a grand nite male 4 years old and the boy was askin 1800 for him I was pissed as soon as I seen the dog he was so thin you could see his spine and we walked for an hour to three trees and never seen a coon we did find a squirel nest in the last one but the other two i could almost bend them to the ground they were so small so tgis is what got me so pissed

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And as for show dogs I would like to see the judges go for the hunting dogs over the house dogs

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Why not feed what you want rather than worry what other people do with their hounds. Hunting or Showing, it's each persons business what they like, want, and what they do. Why should UKC be asked to moderate more than they already do.

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And as for show dogs I would like to see the judges go for the hunting dogs over the house dogs

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It really doesn't matter does it?

Why does it matter to you what the dog on the bench does or doesn't? Why should it matter to you if it lives in the house?

Until it is mandated that only total dogs can compete, everybody has the same rights and options.

I get so sick of the onesided gripes on this topic. You want a hunting dog that wins in the shows, BREED for it!

As long as people breed for just show or just hunt, that is what is going to be out there; either show dog or hunting dog.

When majority of breeders breed for the total dog the quality will change. Until then, no sense whining about judges putting up 'show' dogs.
Best post on here!!!!
You can't just breed coondog to coondog without concern to structure, movement, correct type and expect to get winning show dogs.

You want hunting dogs that win on the bench...BREED for it. Breed only dogs with type, movement, correct structure, that hunt. Quit breeding hunting dogs that don't meet physical standards just because they hunt.

It is just as stupid for a show dog breeder to complain about their dogs not having hunt instinct when all they breed for is structure as it is to hear your whines.

You get what you breed for....

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why if htx are just a joke only about 30% of the dogs entered pass. it would take a better dog to tree a coon by itself , then with 3 other dogs. O trees mean nothing. only coons seen count,
no 400 minus. 2 faults and you fail.
try it before you run your sucks. maybe if you pass you can boost the average.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by grwaskom
[B]why if htx are just a joke only about 30% of the dogs entered pass.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A COON DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HTX is aimed squarely at those who don't have the confidence in their dogs or themselves to put their dog in a four dog randomly drawn cast. But they want their dog to have the honor of a title so that gets them the HTX title. Problem is the HTX titles have zero credibility with the coonhunting masses. So the HTX guys want to find a way to tie HTX to Nite Hunt titles in an effort to gain some of that credibility. And that is all this is really about.

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Originally posted by Trey M
There you go ,how many mistakes does everybodys dog make? Like I said I havent hunted in one so I don't know how many mistakes my dog makes but i'll find out when a HTX hunt comes closer to the house. That i'll know what to work on with my dog. Bottom line we all want our dogs to be the best to thier ability.

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Jack Bingham

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A COON DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that must mean 70% of the dogs out there arent coondogs. so the htx hunts must be harder than nite hunts

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Jack Bingham

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A COON DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that must mean 70% of the dogs out there arent coondogs. so the htx hunts must be harder than nite hunts

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Jack Bingham

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A COON DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that must mean 70% of the dogs out there arent coondogs. so the htx hunts must be harder than nite hunts

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Seems like there are a bunch on here that think THEY are the only ones that own a COONDAWG, the rest of us are just feeding a bunch of chiteaters. You see these guys going on with the same basic song about all the GrNt's that won't hunt alone, can't tree a coon, blah,blah,blah. Then you notice the Grand Nite in their signature line and you ask them if theirs is a counterfeit too and they are like "Oh hell no, MY GrNt gets it done!" I just smile.

The GrNt I feed has been hunted in hunts all over this part of the country for 3 years now and just about anybody and everybody that comp hunts in this part of the world has seen her go at one time or another. And whatever they may think about her, it will be based on what they seen, not what they heard and sure as hell not what I tell them.

You think you got something? Put it out there in a cast and let us SEE what you got in a format that you can't control. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke.

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And that must mean 70% on here to. Who'd of thunk it. Plus I bet that 30% is increasing weekly.

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That % question would be a good one for Allen or Todd. In the program, how many dogs have been entered and how many hold an HTX title? OR; how many total entries and how many got a pass? Or both! I bet fewer dogs make it Bam, Bam, Bam, in three tries than 5 or 6 tries.

That's another thing an HTX title does not tell you but then again Nt Ch does not tell you if a dog was entered in 3 or 23 hunts either. LOL

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That's what they should tell us. Plus where they did it I said that last post wrong. The number I think is changing is the 70% failure rate. I bet its going up. All I know is folks can talk all they want. We had 7 dogs and one is all that passed. My crap eater failed to. I've never claimed mine to be perfect though. I don't sit at the house in my own little fantasy world though I didn't whine and cry about where I had to hunt. I just cut loose and slick treed what seemed like a mile in there lol. Nobody's fault but my dogs.

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Originally posted by DROPTINE
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE UKC MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT BEFORE A DOG CAN BE TITLED SHOW OR NITE CHAMPION IT SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE FIRST THAT IT CAN TREE A REAL LIVE COON BY ITSELF LETS SEE HOW MANY CAN DO IT OR LETS COME OUT WITH A NEW MAGAZINE TITLED HTX STUDS BET IT WONT BE SO MANY TO CHOSE FROM LOL

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JIM MY MAN ANOTHER GREAT POST...I THINK I HAVE ALWAYS SHOWED MINE TO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SEE THEM GO ANYTIME.... I DONT NEED A HUNT TEST TO KNOW MINE WILL TREE COON ALONE THATS THE WAY I HUNT HIM THROUGH THE WEEK...
OUR CLUB IS DOING AWAY WITH AKC HUNTS AND REPLACING THEM WITH HTX SO IM SURE I WILL ENTER A COUPLE TO SUPPORT THE CLUB...

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JIM MY MAN ANOTHER GREAT POST...I THINK I HAVE ALWAYS SHOWED MINE TO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SEE THEM GO ANYTIME.... I DONT NEED A HUNT TEST TO KNOW MINE WILL TREE COON ALONE THATS THE WAY I HUNT HIM THROUGH THE WEEK...
OUR CLUB IS DOING AWAY WITH AKC HUNTS AND REPLACING THEM WITH HTX SO IM SURE I WILL ENTER A COUPLE TO SUPPORT THE CLUB...

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That's about how I figure it myself. If folks have one that want go hunt and tree a coon alone. Why feed em? I don't think its as big a issue as others do. I guess I just assume most can. Evidently they cant. According to the numbers Still it was fun and will pay the powerbill for a few months!

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Why not feed what you want rather than worry what other people do with their hounds. Hunting or Showing, it's each persons business what they like, want, and what they do. Why should UKC be asked to moderate more than they already do.

Remember to vote Obama AGAIN in the upcoming election, since that's how you want coon hunting to be too!

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hell why dont yall make it like horse raceing and get the govorment involved state vet to inspect your animal before it can compete and state officials to judge and fine you or put you in jail for cheating.

or just get rid of all the titles then people would have to get off their ass and have to go hunt with some dogs instead of looking at initials on a piece of paper

if you get a bad one cull it it happens but dont blame someone else

how many of you have bought a pup or dog without hunting with either of the parents or siblings?

if you dont do your homework dont blame someone else for your bad grades!!!!

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I've flip flopped 2 or 3 times on this thread lol. I Dern sure don't want it to have nothing to do with obama. Dang! I despise hearing his voice or seeing his picture. It should remain a choice and not be mandatory.

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at the very best 25% is all that can make it in a comp hunt so if 30% make it in a htx thats higher than even possible in a comp hunt... and thats if all cast come back with plus points and the big hunts you cant even get 25% winners

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at the very best 25% is all that can make it in a comp hunt so if 30% make it in a htx thats higher than even possible in a comp hunt... and thats if all cast come back with plus points and the big hunts you cant even get 25% winners

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