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i hunt out of 85 chevy short box never had any complaints have three chevys mid 80,s have 03 duramax money pit seems go new and walk alot im done with new vehicles

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Location: kentucky
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Its always amazing how when folk justify putting 8 americans out of work...The profits and research and development which is the big money by the way!!!!! all go to Japan .......Toyota was given the land in georgetown ky.. Have free property tax abatement...as a lucrative shady deal to put plant in our state .. Toyota has no retirement plan other than a 401 k ... Whereas G.M. has 3 retired for everyone working ... Gee no know wonder there number one !!!! Oh thats right there not any more!!!! You know the strangest thing all toyotas have service departments,,, My sisters 10 camry has been in the shop more than its has been on the road... All those billions of dollars how many nascar and truck cups have they won???? O

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Its always amazing how when folk justify putting 8 americans out of work...The profits and research and development which is the big money by the way!!!!! all go to Japan .......Toyota was given the land in georgetown ky.. Have free property tax abatement...as a lucrative shady deal to put plant in our state .. Toyota has no retirement plan other than a 401 k ... Whereas G.M. has 3 retired for everyone working ... Gee no know wonder there number one !!!! Oh thats right there not any more!!!! You know the strangest thing all toyotas have service departments,,, My sisters 10 camry has been in the shop more than its has been on the road... All those billions of dollars how many nascar and truck cups have they won???? O

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Location: barnesville,ohio
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there all foreign anyways putting a usa shirt on a mexican (chevy) doesn't make it american

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I'm an old Kentucky coonhunter presently living in Thailand where I've worked off and on for several years. Ford and General Motors both have huge factories here that build pickups, I have a 2000 Ford Ranger 4 door with a 2.9 Ltr turbo diesel that I bought new, gets minimum of 35 mpg and now has about 160,000 miles on it. Both companies have labor deals that now actually pay less than the Thai minimum wage, $10 per day ! The trucks are sold all over Asia, Australia and Europe, all pickups made here are diesel, they don't even offer gas engines, the cars they're building are offered in diesel, gas and natural gas. Why aren't these same type of vehicles being sold in the U.S. ? The engine in my truck hasn't been touched, doesn't smoke and doesn't rattle, if you had open road driving here like in the U.S. the mileage would probably be over 40.

Toyota is the number one selling truck here, they have over 60% of the business and their trucks simply hold up better than anyone elses. The American trucks here could be made in the U.S. but the greed of the car companies keeps it from happening, when the taxpayers bailed out G.M. they failed to show the American taxpayers that their Asian operations were making a fortune but the profits here aren't sent back in order to avoid paying tax on them. Feel no pity for American automakers.

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Location: in a van, down by the river.
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I own a repair facility and collision shop and i always laugh when i hear people defend buying Jap. vehicles.


whats ironic is if you go to COPART.com which is an international online auction site you will see that the japs pay big bucks for american trucks and only the rich can afford them.

As far as them being more economical, you will quickly change your mind when you see how expensive parts and repairs are on them. Just last week i had a 2010 toyota camry in the shop that had hit a deer, A headlight assembly, hood and a grill cost 1600 dollars. The same parts for an american equilavent would have probably been around 500.

I buy and drive american. Its just the right thing to do.

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I'm an old Kentucky coonhunter presently living in Thailand where I've worked off and on for several years. Ford and General Motors both have huge factories here that build pickups, I have a 2000 Ford Ranger 4 door with a 2.9 Ltr turbo diesel that I bought new, gets minimum of 35 mpg and now has about 160,000 miles on it. Both companies have labor deals that now actually pay less than the Thai minimum wage, $10 per day ! The trucks are sold all over Asia, Australia and Europe, all pickups made here are diesel, they don't even offer gas engines, the cars they're building are offered in diesel, gas and natural gas. Why aren't these same type of vehicles being sold in the U.S. ? The engine in my truck hasn't been touched, doesn't smoke and doesn't rattle, if you had open road driving here like in the U.S. the mileage would probably be over 40.

Toyota is the number one selling truck here, they have over 60% of the business and their trucks simply hold up better than anyone elses. The American trucks here could be made in the U.S. but the greed of the car companies keeps it from happening, when the taxpayers bailed out G.M. they failed to show the American taxpayers that their Asian operations were making a fortune but the profits here aren't sent back in order to avoid paying tax on them. Feel no pity for American automakers.

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CHEVY RUNS DEEP.... INTO TAXPAYER POCKETS!!!

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Location: Western N.Y.
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All you Jap. scrap lovers should take your next vacation in Japan so you can see what your future and your childres future is gonna look like. I HOPE YAALL LIKE RICE.

Im an american and i will buy american and support american companies whenever and wherever i can.

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All you Jap. scrap lovers should take your next vacation in Japan so you can see what your future and your childres future is gonna look like. I HOPE YAALL LIKE RICE.

Im an american and i will buy american and support american companies whenever and wherever i can.

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AND WHEN YOU CAN'T ARE YOU GONNA HAVE THE BACKBONE TO DO WITHOUT THAT PRODUCT OR GO AGAINST YOUR PRINCIPLES AND BUY IT ANYWAY??? DO YOU READ LABELS ON EVERYTHING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY BUYS???

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SO THE ANSWER IS 'NO'???

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SO THE ANSWER IS 'NO'???

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The answer is i buy american whenever i can, i run a small bsiness and every day in one way or another i opt to use american made products over foreign made because i support my country. SIMPLE as that.

I believe we live in the greatest country on the planet, im that old fashioned card carrying, flag waving american and am saddened by the appathy that is evident in these responses.

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The idea of buying American is good in theory. That's as far as it goes.

All that mentality has gotten us is automakers who can't build vehicles equal to other companies. If you had a relative that did inferior work for more money would you support him because it's the right thing to do. The big three have had a free pass to build complete junk chevy and ford trucks excluded. And we had to bail them out because we supported them until it was to late.


The right thing to do is to buy the best product for the best price and let the fair market take care of itself. Competition in business is the greatest thing for innovation.

As far as diesel engines the government will use the EPA to do away with diesel engines in regular vehicles and then they will start on gas engines. In ten years it will hard to buy a vehicle that isn't electric. The fact is that a diesel will beat a hybrid on fuel economy any day any way you want to test it. This fact is hidden and diesels are under attack.

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The idea of buying American is good in theory. That's as far as it goes.

All that mentality has gotten us is automakers who can't build vehicles equal to other companies. If you had a relative that did inferior work for more money would you support him because it's the right thing to do. The big three have had a free pass to build complete junk chevy and ford trucks excluded. And we had to bail them out because we supported them until it was to late.


The right thing to do is to buy the best product for the best price and let the fair market take care of itself. Competition in business is the greatest thing for innovation.

As far as diesel engines the government will use the EPA to do away with diesel engines in regular vehicles and then they will start on gas engines. In ten years it will hard to buy a vehicle that isn't electric. The fact is that a diesel will beat a hybrid on fuel economy any day any way you want to test it. This fact is hidden and diesels are under attack.

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What a shame the Japs havent started breeding coonhounds, just imagine the bargins all you sometime americans could get.

They probably hunt on less feed.

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DIDN'T COONHOUNDS COME FROM IMPORTED STOCK???

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What a shame the Japs havent started breeding coonhounds, just imagine the bargins all you sometime americans could get.

They probably hunt on less feed.

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You sure are a bunch of name callers sittin behind a computer, but thats Ok, This is america and you have that right.

If you live long enough you will come to realize there are times in life when you have a choice betwen being part of the problem or part of the solution. We disagree that american products are inferior to Jap. vehicles but wheather im right with my 40 years experience repairing vehicles or you are doesnt really matter what matters much more is whats best for the country and the american way of life.

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So JUST because the CEO's of the BIG 3 are American citizens, we are supposed to spend twice as much money for vehicles that are designed to cost us more money, and are overall inferior products to boot?

The heads of every company are overpaid, Big 3 or Foreign, guaranteed. Sorry their benefits aren't what the Big 3 offers employees, but at least they're creating jobs here in America rather than laying their labor force off.

For what I do, if I were to buy a new truck it would be a Ford Super Duty. No foreign vehicle can handle the work I give them, but for your everyday coon hunter... Toyota is a no brainer!

You my friend are ignorant.

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I just wanted to know the width of the bed on a new Tacoma. What happened? Lol

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My MOTOR crash book says 40.9 inches inside wheelwells. Sorry this thread got so carried away.

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John, you strike me as a guy who should quit telling people how smart he is, and find something better to do. When we all grow up and become as smart as you, the world will have no problems.

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take a picture of your sisters car cuz its a rare one and if im going to spend money its going to be the best product I can afford and that is toyota

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