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intellectualist
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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
You truly are rediculous. You will not reveal your true identity until and unless I send you something for free...lol. Why on earth would I do that? Why do I need to do that? What makes you think that your endorcement or denouncement will either make or break the success of my antenna? Do you really consider yourself "the" foremost authority of 151mhz-155mhz frequency antennas? I could really care less what you have to say about my antenna because it would be entirely based on your false assumptions and therefore be wrong. I am sure you are probably a legend in your own mind, but pardon me if I seem less than impressed with you after reading over many of your posts from the past few years. You keep hiding behind your alias and saying that im wrong about all the things you have insinuated about me and my antenna design. Well, people can read back over your posts...at least the ones that you have not edited and decide if I was wrong about the intent of your statements. Maybe they should read back over some of the many other threads and posts by you by searching your alias to find all your previous posts. I just finished reading through as many as I could stand and have come to the conclusion that you truly are a disrespectful piece of work (or maybe it's something else) The way that you talk down to people and try to belittle them and some of their questions or ideas....wow, thats all I can say....no wonder you hide behind an alias! They say you should know your enemy....but I couldn't stomach reading any more of your"know it all" self rightious, and often down right rude posts. I have seen enough to know that what you have done to my post, you have done to many, many others and it would do no good to take it personal.
So I am going to tell you one last time that I will never send you one of my antennas to get your opinion on it. At this point I really would like to ask you in the nicest possible way not to comment or opine on my post anymore. This post is for information gathering for further research and development of my antenna project. I am not asking for nor willing to hear anymore of your comments so please refrain from making anymore and let real houndsmen from around the country post about their garmin systems range performance. Thank you....Shane

I told you I would either pay for it if it worked, or send it back if it didnt so who is wanting something for free?
When you post on a national forum, I think this is public domain, it does not belong to anyone except UKC.
I do not consider myself the foremost authority. There you go making assumptions. I do know this, I can tell you in about 15 minutes whether your proprietary design will do what you say it does!
I am glad you found me interesting enough to actually do a search on my username to perhaps gain a little knowledge and insight on the few topics I have discussed on this forum. I do not know what post you found rude because I am not aware of it!
Yes, there are post where someone will say something that I disagree with or perhaps someone will say something that is down right silly and I will post my response. Just because someone disagrees with an opinion that does not make them rude or arrogant. I guess what makes them rude or arrogant in your mind is the facts I present that cannot be refuted!
I like to debate things I do not agree with or have a differing view point on and that should be a good thing. It gives someone the opportunity to articulate why they feel the way they do and can allow them to help me see things differently but in this day and age most people perceive that as a threat and become hateful and defensive. That is usually when the thread turns sour.

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shane

i live in ny in the catskill mountains so it is bigger hills and swamps and valleys. i use 220 with long range antena and have 2 dc30 with a long range antena also. depending on the terain i usually have 1000 yrds thats with pulling out my antenna.. if i,m lookin down a valley i can get further. so i guess it depends on if the dogs go over the ridge. my freind has every thing stock 220 ,dc30 and i consistantly get longer range than he does. another side note i recently bought a dc40 stock and put it on a dog along with the dc30 and it gets not quit but almost the same distance. i would like a mile range if possible so dont have to move around as much to stay in contact with the hounds. i think my garmin is effective the way it is(with the mid size mountain we have here) but if i could get a little more out of it i would. i know for a fact that my long rainge stuff i have added gets more rainge because i see it 2- 4 nights a week for the last year!! if you come up with something better i will prolly try it. thanks todd smith

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Re: shane

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Originally posted by 54tsmith
i live in ny in the catskill mountains so it is bigger hills and swamps and valleys. i use 220 with long range antena and have 2 dc30 with a long range antena also. depending on the terain i usually have 1000 yrds thats with pulling out my antenna.. if i,m lookin down a valley i can get further. so i guess it depends on if the dogs go over the ridge. my freind has every thing stock 220 ,dc30 and i consistantly get longer range than he does. another side note i recently bought a dc40 stock and put it on a dog along with the dc30 and it gets not quit but almost the same distance. i would like a mile range if possible so dont have to move around as much to stay in contact with the hounds. i think my garmin is effective the way it is(with the mid size mountain we have here) but if i could get a little more out of it i would. i know for a fact that my long rainge stuff i have added gets more rainge because i see it 2- 4 nights a week for the last year!! if you come up with something better i will prolly try it. thanks todd smith

Todd, I appreciate the info. Information from people who hunt in the hills and mountains is very important to me because I don't get to test there as often as I can in the flatlands of north central Indiana. We probably have about optimum terrain for getting results that are fairly consistent with the Garmin system. My goal when I started this project, was to develope an antenna system that would be as portable and easy to use as the rubber duck or telascoping antennas that are currently available but that would provide a boost in range equal to the magnetic mount long range antennas. (3-5 miles in flat country) This may be reduced to 1.5-2.5 miles in the hills and mountain terrain, but I think it would satisfy the needs of most hunters out there....and that was the goal from the start. Thanks for the info and good luck at the hunts next year...hope to see you there....Shane

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"Tuned to MURS Band: Each antenna is tuned to the VHF MURS Band from 151 to 154 MHz. This antenna can be used with the new MURS band based intercom and security devices, such as the Dakota Alert. It can also be used with MURS based dog tracking devices, such as the Garmin Astro or Tracker Maxima. Warning: There have been some reports that tracking devices such as the Garmin Astro have been damaged while using external antennas, due to transmissions being made by another radio, or static shock. Use caution."

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You decide!

I bought two magnet rooftop antennas from "intellectualist" and was fortunate enough to win two antennas from Mr Maxey and like both products.

At a particular hunt in Missouri I won my cast and another hunter's dog was still out and he wasn't picking up a signal. So I loaned him my rooftop antenna and left to return the card. 30 minutes after I got back to the club the other hunter came in and he was thankful and impressed with my antenna and wanted to know all about it so I gave him info and he was suppose to order one.

After reading the posts on this thread I did a little experimenting on my own. I took Mr Maxey's antenna and my after market long range antenna to the conservation area I hunt. I hung the collar with Mr Maxey's antenna in a bush about 4' off the ground and drove around to the opposite side of the section (1.2 miles) and was receiving a good signal. Drove back and changed antennas and drove around to the same spot, got (?) for signal. I Walked in a straight line towards collar until I could get a signal. (.8) That's 33% farther distance.

Same handheld unit, same time, same place just different antennas ....... you decide for yourself.

I switched back to Mr Maxey's antenna. May not be scientific enough for some but I'm a simple coonhunter and I'll go with the 33% every time.

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Shane

I don't know exactly what you are working on for the handheld. I have seen these ones that telescope and have heard that they are probably the best out there at this time for range. I am fearfull of using one, because I know for me it would have a short life time. I remember when I was a kid and was following the coyote hunters around, using CB walkie talkies. Between catching in the brush or shutting it in the truck door with it still out, it would keep getting shorter and shorter. I am currently using the long flexable that came with my 320 and am satisfied most of the time. I have even got used to the length to where others pull them out with the short ones, their's look funny. When I was working at your club during AO, one of your club members showed me what you had put on his collar. A vendor at the zone finals gave me one that 'looked similar'. As I have no idea what is really different from his, I can only say what I have experienced with his. It does add some range, but not a 'big jump'. It is a good thing it is durable, because with the extra length, it takes more of a beating in the brush. I think I made a similar post early on, on this thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by intellectualist
I told you I would either pay for it if it worked, or send it back if it didnt so who is wanting something for free?
When you post on a national forum, I think this is public domain, it does not belong to anyone except UKC.
I do not consider myself the foremost authority. There you go making assumptions. I do know this, I can tell you in about 15 minutes whether your proprietary design will do what you say it does!
I am glad you found me interesting enough to actually do a search on my username to perhaps gain a little knowledge and insight on the few topics I have discussed on this forum. I do not know what post you found rude because I am not aware of it!
Yes, there are post where someone will say something that I disagree with or perhaps someone will say something that is down right silly and I will post my response. Just because someone disagrees with an opinion that does not make them rude or arrogant. I guess what makes them rude or arrogant in your mind is the facts I present that cannot be refuted!
I like to debate things I do not agree with or have a differing view point on and that should be a good thing. It gives someone the opportunity to articulate why they feel the way they do and can allow them to help me see things differently but in this day and age most people perceive that as a threat and become hateful and defensive. That is usually when the thread turns sour.

And I told you that I will never send you anything....ever...not for any price....and I meant it! The first post you made on here gave me the information that I asked for when I started this post. There is no need for you to keep chiming in and trying to argue or "debate" me on a subject that was never mentioned in this post until you injected it and that is low freq. antenna theory and design. Most of the hunters I know really don't want to even try to make sense of all that... they just want a product that works and is easy to use. I can tell you know something about ham radio antennas, so why don't you go find somebody else somewhere on your ham radio and tell them everything you think they can't do and challenge them from your radio which masks your identity so they can't come find you for a face to face "debate"! I asked you not to post on here and cloud the intent of this post anymore by getting off the real subject which was trying to get real houndsmens testamonials about the range they are getting from their Garmin systems under actual hunting conditions in their area.
Yes this is a public forum, but I never asked you to review my testing methods or designs or give me your opinion on whether I can make something that you are unable to... (from your postings it looks like you buy the antennas that others actually make) You are doing everything you can to argue with me and ruin this post, and I am going to ask you one more time to stop doing that. Make a new post if you want, I don't care because I will never get past seeing your alias and will quickly move on to the next post without ever adding my thoughts about you or the size and scope of your ego. If you continue to interject your egotistical rants into my thread I will just delete the whole thread. If you really want to help Garmin users like you have said....why don't you just go away and let me collect the data that I have asked people on here for? Shane

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Re: You decide!

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Originally posted by harry harris
I bought two magnet rooftop antennas from "intellectualist" and was fortunate enough to win two antennas from Mr Maxey and like both products.

At a particular hunt in Missouri I won my cast and another hunter's dog was still out and he wasn't picking up a signal. So I loaned him my rooftop antenna and left to return the card. 30 minutes after I got back to the club the other hunter came in and he was thankful and impressed with my antenna and wanted to know all about it so I gave him info and he was suppose to order one.

After reading the posts on this thread I did a little experimenting on my own. I took Mr Maxey's antenna and my after market long range antenna to the conservation area I hunt. I hung the collar with Mr Maxey's antenna in a bush about 4' off the ground and drove around to the opposite side of the section (1.2 miles) and was receiving a good signal. Drove back and changed antennas and drove around to the same spot, got (?) for signal. I Walked in a straight line towards collar until I could get a signal. (.8) That's 33% farther distance.

Same handheld unit, same time, same place just different antennas ....... you decide for yourself.

I switched back to Mr Maxey's antenna. May not be scientific enough for some but I'm a simple coonhunter and I'll go with the 33% every time.

Thanks Harry and Tim,
I am glad you like the prototype antennas Harry. They will change a little before they go on the market and I will try to get you some of the new ones as soon as my testing wraps up. They will be a little shorter and just as flexable but more durable. The next generation has been giving a slight bump in range from the ones you have now....but the real boost will be seen with the addition of the handheld unit antenna. The collar antenna and the handheld antenna are both made using high quality super conductive materials such as braided copper, brass, and silver. These materials are rarely seen in antennas because most manufacturers choose to go the cheapest route possible such as steel cable, aluminum tubing, etc. In my testing, the material that an antenna is constructed from makes a difference in range....and the overall durability and longevity of the antenna. Anyone who knows me, knows I don't skimp or sacrifice quality when I design and make things and these antenna systems are no exception. I wasn't an expert in antenna theory or design when I started this project, and Im still not....but I have learned alot through trial and error. This has probably been the more expensive route but sometimes it takes a novice outside of the loop to look at a problem by looking outside the box. Thats what I did with my light designs. I didn't ask or work with other light builders because I wanted my light to be different, original...better if possible. People who have been educated on certain subjects tend to stay within the boundries (their comfort zone) that they know and have been taught (the box) but I can easily step outside that box because I have no idea where the walls of the box are...lol. I was out of my comfort zone from the start on both of these projects because I dont have any type of formal education in electrical engineering or radio frequency theory.
I have degees in business and precision machining tech. and I hold journeymans cards as a machinist-tool and die maker and also as a plumber-pipefitter-steamfitter and thats how I make my living. But tinkering and experimenting is a hobby of mine that goes well with my love of hunting and hounds. I am always looking at ways to make things better for myself and other hunters. I have never been one to set idle very long. This antenna project may never reach the goals that I set when I started it, but I am getting close in my limited testing and want to continue to learn about and improve it if I can. I appreciate all the information and help, and support that my fellow hunters have given me on all my projects...I wont forget those who helped me and I hope our paths cross again many times in the future

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
And I told you that I will never send you anything....ever...not for any price....and I meant it! The first post you made on here gave me the information that I asked for when I started this post. There is no need for you to keep chiming in and trying to argue or "debate" me on a subject that was never mentioned in this post until you injected it and that is low freq. antenna theory and design. Most of the hunters I know really don't want to even try to make sense of all that... they just want a product that works and is easy to use. I can tell you know something about ham radio antennas, so why don't you go find somebody else somewhere on your ham radio and tell them everything you think they can't do and challenge them from your radio which masks your identity so they can't come find you for a face to face "debate"! I asked you not to post on here and cloud the intent of this post anymore by getting off the real subject which was trying to get real houndsmens testamonials about the range they are getting from their Garmin systems under actual hunting conditions in their area.
Yes this is a public forum, but I never asked you to review my testing methods or designs or give me your opinion on whether I can make something that you are unable to... (from your postings it looks like you buy the antennas that others actually make) You are doing everything you can to argue with me and ruin this post, and I am going to ask you one more time to stop doing that. Make a new post if you want, I don't care because I will never get past seeing your alias and will quickly move on to the next post without ever adding my thoughts about you or the size and scope of your ego. If you continue to interject your egotistical rants into my thread I will just delete the whole thread. If you really want to help Garmin users like you have said....why don't you just go away and let me collect the data that I have asked people on here for? Shane

I will be happy to stop posting on this thread when you stop making comments that I have to address! Do not make a bunch of comments or put words in my mouth then expect me to just quit posting because you have asked me to!

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Re: You decide!

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Originally posted by harry harris
I bought two magnet rooftop antennas from "intellectualist" and was fortunate enough to win two antennas from Mr Maxey and like both products.

At a particular hunt in Missouri I won my cast and another hunter's dog was still out and he wasn't picking up a signal. So I loaned him my rooftop antenna and left to return the card. 30 minutes after I got back to the club the other hunter came in and he was thankful and impressed with my antenna and wanted to know all about it so I gave him info and he was suppose to order one.

After reading the posts on this thread I did a little experimenting on my own. I took Mr Maxey's antenna and my after market long range antenna to the conservation area I hunt. I hung the collar with Mr Maxey's antenna in a bush about 4' off the ground and drove around to the opposite side of the section (1.2 miles) and was receiving a good signal. Drove back and changed antennas and drove around to the same spot, got (?) for signal. I Walked in a straight line towards collar until I could get a signal. (.8) That's 33% farther distance.

Same handheld unit, same time, same place just different antennas ....... you decide for yourself.

I switched back to Mr Maxey's antenna. May not be scientific enough for some but I'm a simple coonhunter and I'll go with the 33% every time.

This is not a debate on whether the antennas that I went through the trouble of ordering and distributing to hunters on here is better than whatever this guy is offering.
The question is are these antennas he is making so much better than what is on the market now. Not just the magnet mount that we have but all antennas that currently can be used on the Garmin.
If you wanted an antenna that would double or possibly triple the range of that magnet mount we all bought I could have sold you one of those but it would not have been $18 or whatever it was!
When you say you were walking to the dogs did you mean with a garmin long range hand held antenna or are you saying you were carrying the magnet mount towards the dogs?
If you were carrying the magnet mount then that is not how that antenna was designed to be used but I do not think that is what you mean.

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So you are making your antenna on the collar longer????
Well, we have already covered what that can do so I am glad to see that you are shortening it some now that we have had this discussion.
See, you learned something from this dialogue after all. I wonder how many transmitters I have saved you from replacing?

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intellectualist, not sure why your giving Shane a hard time and ragging him.........Shane's products have proved themselves over.......from his Mity Max to the new Banshee -- he has been an innovator in the sport of coon hunting.

About lost my dip in my mouth when I read I can promise you, a peer review from me on this forum will either make your antennas fly or flop. as I laughed so hard I about swallowed my dip.

Are you really that big and well known that a review by you would actually make or break his product??????

Again, his products have proven themselves.......and you can't even reveal your identity but can push that chest out like your the man that can make or break his product.

Bet there is not a hat on the market that can fit that head huh???? Perhaps Shane can make one for you since his past products he has created has spoken for themselves.

Only product I seen from you was the pvc pipe and cut up tape measure you sent me as your prototype tracking antenna.

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Hunt mostly flat land but lots of thick brush.
Stock antenna on the handheld with aftermarkets on my two dc30 collars.
We usually get a consistent 900 to 1000 yards before we start getting spotty reception. more would be nice but in reality we never loose a dog with the system as is.

A guy who thinks of himself as an intellectualist probably has an ego issue going on so dont let his "opinions" deter you from your research. We houndsmen are always interested in a product that will make our sport more enjoyable.

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Everything i know about electronics could be written on a matchbook but as i understand it the limitations of the system is based on the relativly weak signal from the collars, so why wouldnt an amplifier in the collar work? As long as my dogs dont start opening peoples garage doors.LOL.

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quote:
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Sounds like you have been doing your homework on cutting edge light technowlegy as well. My prototype single led spotlight puts out over 2500 lumens, it and the single led head are both focusable (neither use reflectors) from flood to spot and the battery pack is 7.4 volts @12 amps and very lightwieght. Alot of light builders have not figured out that LED's project about 3 times further than they reflect. I have yet to see even a 28 volt spot that can shine brighter, whiter, or further than my Banshee Light prototype....but lets get back on topic with the Garmin range issue shall we Shane

Wait 2500 lumens out of a led or cree? Currently there is no cree I can think of that will put out 2500lumens with out it being a very short life or heating up beyond our ability to use it. Now as far as a adjustable beem with cree or led the longer and narrower the parrabolic reflector the tighter the spot is without ghost light or ambient light so unless youve made a parabolic reflector that flatens it is not gonna effectivly go back into a tight spot now if your using an led do yourself the favor and switch to a cree due to life heat output and efficiency of battery usage

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Ohh and just so your aware banshee heads are night rider hollows already they have been producing them for over a year

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quote:
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intellectualist, not sure why your giving Shane a hard time and ragging him.........Shane's products have proved themselves over.......from his Mity Max to the new Banshee -- he has been an innovator in the sport of coon hunting.

About lost my dip in my mouth when I read I can promise you, a peer review from me on this forum will either make your antennas fly or flop. as I laughed so hard I about swallowed my dip.

Are you really that big and well known that a review by you would actually make or break his product??????

Again, his products have proven themselves.......and you can't even reveal your identity but can push that chest out like your the man that can make or break his product.

Bet there is not a hat on the market that can fit that head huh???? Perhaps Shane can make one for you since his past products he has created has spoken for themselves.

Only product I seen from you was the pvc pipe and cut up tape measure you sent me as your prototype tracking antenna.

Here you go sticking your foot in your mouth again. You know who I am and where I am at. That antenna was not meant to be the end all be all of tracking antennas. That antenna was meant for one thing and one thing only and that was to give hunters on a bugdet an antenna with similar performance for $5 versus one for $115. So what are you even talking about. Your on here voicing your diatribe because I have had set you straight a few times.
Just like the time I wrote the article about the Garmin antennas. You couldnt admit that it took great effort and was informative, all you could do was "pick" at it and try to find fault. Well I guess we cleared that up pretty fast didnt we.
Also, you have done business with me before! Why don't you stand up and be a man and tell these folks that I will do exactly what I say I will do! No, you can't do that. You can't tell it all like it is, you just like to get on here and stick your foot in your mouth!
I do not know anything about his other products, that is why none of my conversation relate to anything except antennas!
I would not have given him a hard time if I had not read buzzwords such as "proprietary process and secretive materials" or whatever it was.
Somehow I just knew he was making a longer antenna and when I posted what that would cause, low and behold someone familiar with his product admits the antenna is longer and now the next generation is going to be miraculously shorter than the current one. Not everything that is experiminted with makes something work better. It may work better for a season but when you are talking about changing the length on a factory antenna that is connected to a trasmitter you are just asking for trouble!

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11-23-2011 08:16 PM

Tim MACHA
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Everything i know about electronics could be written on a matchbook but as i understand it the limitations of the system is based on the relativly weak signal from the collars, so why wouldnt an amplifier in the collar work? As long as my dogs dont start opening peoples garage doors.LOL.

Now, I don't know that much about electronics, just enough to be dangerous. I think that there probably is about all that can be done with the components in the collar and remain in the FCC guidelines. I think if one starts playing with amps, he will need more battery juice and will add more weight to the collar. About all that is left is playing with the signal that is transmitted and received. Then he is up against the wall on maxxing out the components. It is a very fine line to walk.

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11-23-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Hunt mostly flat land but lots of thick brush.
Stock antenna on the handheld with aftermarkets on my two dc30 collars.
We usually get a consistent 900 to 1000 yards before we start getting spotty reception. more would be nice but in reality we never loose a dog with the system as is.

A guy who thinks of himself as an intellectualist probably has an ego issue going on so dont let his "opinions" deter you from your research. We houndsmen are always interested in a product that will make our sport more enjoyable.

I am glad you like my username! Go ahead and put those longer antennas on your collar!

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11-23-2011 08:19 PM

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So, does Bucksnot stand corrected again????
Did Shane design the banshee or did nite rider hollow design it?

I do not know either way but I hope nite rider hollow did so Bucksnot can stand corrected AGAIN!

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11-23-2011 08:33 PM

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Here you go sticking your foot in your mouth again. You know who I am and where I am at. That antenna was not meant to be the end all be all of tracking antennas. That antenna was meant for one thing and one thing only and that was to give hunters on a bugdet an antenna with similar performance for $5 versus one for $115. So what are you even talking about. Your on here voicing your diatribe because I have had set you straight a few times.
Just like the time I wrote the article about the Garmin antennas. You couldnt admit that it took great effort and was informative, all you could do was "pick" at it and try to find fault. Well I guess we cleared that up pretty fast didnt we.
Also, you have done business with me before! Why don't you stand up and be a man and tell these folks that I will do exactly what I say I will do! No, you can't do that. You can't tell it all like it is, you just like to get on here and stick your foot in your mouth!
I do not know anything about his other products, that is why none of my conversation relate to anything except antennas!
I would not have given him a hard time if I had not read buzzwords such as "proprietary process and secretive materials" or whatever it was.
Somehow I just knew he was making a longer antenna and when I posted what that would cause, low and behold someone familiar with his product admits the antenna is longer and now the next generation is going to be miraculously shorter than the current one. Not everything that is experiminted with makes something work better. It may work better for a season but when you are talking about changing the length on a factory antenna that is connected to a trasmitter you are just asking for trouble!

No I do not kow who you are...........Your name was not on the UPS label both times on both the things I received from you.

Years ago I bought a USED Icom from you to replace the one I sold -- I payed, you shipped...nothing more, nothing less.

Next thing was that pvc antenna that you offered to mail me to see what I thought of when discussing ina thread in the classified section-- nothing more, nothing less.

That is the extent of business dealings. You shipping a person what they paid for doesn't have any bearing with slamming Shane nor corresponds to it does it?.........didn't realize I need to post that I paid you for a used product and you shipped it..........something that took place years ago.

Put me in my place a few times, OK, if it makes your head bigger.

To make intellectualist's chest bigger, I will admit years ago that I bought a used ICOM from him and he sent it to me and I received it.

To anyone else that I have bought from and have failed to mention our purchases from years ago, I apologize. Sometimes I fail to think that something as mundane as a purchase from years ago needs to be mentioned as if it is very important.......For you chest pumpers, from the bottom of my heart, I apologize for not mentioning it those purchases.

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11-23-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by intellectualist
So, does Bucksnot stand corrected again????
Did Shane design the banshee or did nite rider hollow design it?

I do not know either way but I hope nite rider hollow did so Bucksnot can stand corrected AGAIN!

intellectualshit, Why don;t you ask Shane who designed the Banshee coon squaller.............His company name is Banshee Wildilfe Products.

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11-23-2011 08:54 PM

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No I do not kow who you are...........Your name was not on the UPS label both times on both the things I received from you.

Years ago I bought a USED Icom from you to replace the one I sold -- I payed, you shipped...nothing more, nothing less.

Next thing was that pvc antenna that you offered to mail me to see what I thought of when discussing ina thread in the classified section-- nothing more, nothing less.

That is the extent of business dealings. You shipping a person what they paid for doesn't have any bearing with slamming Shane nor corresponds to it does it?.........didn't realize I need to post that I paid you for a used product and you shipped it..........something that took place years ago.

Put me in my place a few times, OK, if it makes your head bigger.

To make intellectualist's chest bigger, I will admit years ago that I bought a used ICOM from him and he sent it to me and I received it.

To anyone else that I have bought from and have failed to mention our purchases from years ago, I apologize. Sometimes I fail to think that something as mundane as a purchase from years ago needs to be mentioned as if it is very important.......For you chest pumpers, from the bottom of my heart, I apologize for not mentioning it those purchases.

Now you are going too far Drew! If you did not know who I was then how did you make the M.O. out to me in my name??? You certantly did not send me a blank M.O.
This forum is ripe with people who will tell you one thing and do another when it comes to hard earned money. I have found out the hard way too many times. Not long ago there was a thread about someone getting screwed on here and it was amazing at the folks who have gotten screwed on here! The only reason I mentioned our transaction is so that there would be evidence that I did not screw you so Shane would have no reason to think I would screw him over by not properly reviewing his antenna. It does not necessarily prove that, but it is a step in the right direction!
That was the only reason I even mentioned our transaction and because you have to come on here and open your pie hole!
And by the way, that was not years ago because I have only been member since 2008.
So lets get this straight, you are admitting, if it were true but it is not, that you sent a M.O. to someone who would not give you their name? You thought that would be a trustable transaction?
See how foolish that makes you look? Rediculous! I use to think you were a pretty straight shooter even though we disagree on some things but now I know better!

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11-23-2011 09:01 PM

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Yes it was a few years back..........Sold that Icom back in June 2009, bought from you back in 2008 not too long after you became a member on here.

I'll admit I may have sent you a money order back in 2008, probably had your name to make payment if I didn't pay with PayPal. But I don't know you and all I did was buy a used product from you. I don't even know Shane either.

I shipped a package yesterday without a name (still don't know the guys real name, just his username) and mailed out a MO order blank last week (though I did know who he was since he is a client).

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11-23-2011 09:18 PM

intellectualist
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Originally posted by Buckshot
intellectualshit, Why don;t you ask Shane who designed the Banshee coon squaller.............His company name is Banshee Wildilfe Products.

I did not say he did not make it and I did ask. The best thing you can do is not address me any further unless you want to be made a fool out of any worse than you have already!

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