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I have a dog that jacks the tree. He doesn't jump 8 ft in the air, but he does jump on a tree but only after he see's a light. We have tried to break him of this when he started doing it at 8 months old when he was split treeing his own coon. He is now 5, has it caused some problems at compition hunts only a couple of times. Do some people think he is mean because of the reputation he got because a couple of people wanted to talk about him when they had never hunted with him only heard about him, sure. But can I take him out with my 6, 5, and 3 year old children and watch him stand perfectly still so they can pet him while he trees. You bet I can. There is no perfect dog out there. He will leave a tree if anothe dog is trying to push him off. I have watched him be pushed off by a dog half his size, and he backed off the tree about 10 foot and sat on the ground and treed. So in my opionin is he a "bad" dog because he jacks the tree? NO WAY, he is our pride and joy and he actually has helped train 2 other dogs and never had an issue with them. So some people think that we are POS of taking a tree jacker, what about the guy at the hunt that can't act like an adult and has to try to screw everyone else cause his dog can't come under a coon unless he is following my dog?

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Originally posted by toe cutter
thats what i am saying. too many think its all about impressing someone else. if i have the type of dogs i like then i could care less what someone else thinks of them.
tree jackers,ill dogs and slick treeing idiots can eat some body elses food. but if someone else can live with those faults in a dog then so be it.
people are fast to point out what faults theirs dogs dont have. but i see few posts that they state the faults theirs do have. and every one of them have a hole big enough to drive a truck through. aint a dog ever lived that did not have a fault some where to someone. its just which faults a guy can live with.

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ive never heard such bullcrap in my life let me get my taller boots on so it doesnt run over the top . and make up your hypathetical scenarios all you want oh walker but a tree jacker is trying to get to the game treed not be a bullie a tree fighter is possesve of the tree or game there is a difference. a dog that jumps up the tree didnt cause my dogs any harm for 8 years of hunting did i beat the odds i dont think so. those guys that lost there dogs supposedly ???are probably pretty darned proud of those dogs litterally giving there life to get a coon as i would be .just as a dog gives its life catching bear ! so good luck trying to change the people that dont mind a dog jacking the tree to try and get to the game . i bet i could see 99 % climb a easy leaner so load your guns and have plenty of ammo for those culls lol .... you still havent changed my mind and your not gonna along with other hound loving folks on here ! can you argue the fact that a tree jacker isnt trying to get to the game ? why else would he be there giving all trying to get it ?thats why i cant find fault . if he was the only dog you had you would eat meat and sell hides on a regular basis . thats why i said its gotta be the plastic trophys for the basis of this argument it only takes one good dog to tree coon on a regular basis.

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ive never heard such bullcrap in my life let me get my taller boots on so it doesnt run over the top . and make up your hypathetical scenarios all you want oh walker but a tree jacker is trying to get to the game treed not be a bullie a tree fighter is possesve of the tree or game there is a difference. a dog that jumps up the tree didnt cause my dogs any harm for 8 years of hunting did i beat the odds i dont think so. those guys that lost there dogs supposedly ???are probably pretty darned proud of those dogs litterally giving there life to get a coon as i would be .just as a dog gives its life catching bear ! so good luck trying to change the people that dont mind a dog jacking the tree to try and get to the game . i bet i could see 99 % climb a easy leaner so load your guns and have plenty of ammo for those culls lol .... you still havent changed my mind and your not gonna along with other hound loving folks on here ! can you argue the fact that a tree jacker isnt trying to get to the game ? why else would he be there giving all trying to get it ?thats why i cant find fault . if he was the only dog you had you would eat meat and sell hides on a regular basis . thats why i said its gotta be the plastic trophys for the basis of this argument it only takes one good dog to tree coon on a regular basis.

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if reading the english language is hard for you im sorry for you . some of us dont have to read slow to understand it . and you got dogs that know the different tree species they really are special . you better read extra slow on what your writing .and your getting a headache trying to decipher you writing ! its (your) writing is how its spelled in this sentence . see i can be a jerk too about the english language even though i screw some of it up.you hope i dont have to scrape them off the floor. you already said you shoot them ,so dont give me your false sentiment. you have a good one yourself ! see its spelled good (one) not un . no hard feelings from this side . good debating with you, and hope your headache gets better.

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lmao wow this is funny.......you boys are serious about them tree jackers arnt ya?

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I have seen alot of dogs run the tree. Some start fights, some don't. Depends alot on the dogs you are hunting with. My old male will back up and let them run. My female will take about three times of them falling on her and then she lets them know she don't appreciate it. She is a stand on the wood tree dog. Hunt pups with her or whatever you want and she will be fine. If a dog falls on her or tries to run her off the tree, they are getting ready to have a bad night. Is it her fault she won't put up with crap around the tree? NO, she don't like being landed on or bullied. Me neither. My son had a redbone female that would run the tree. The sire was the same way. The owner of the sire broke him and from then on he was a sit back every breath tree dog. Anyway, it is a fault that can be fixed, you just have to take the time to do it. Some take a little more effort then others. I never work on it until they can run and tree a coon by themselves and stay treed. After they are confident, then you work on it. If you do it to early you could possibly ruin them. A dog that jacks the tree may not be mean, but it will cause problems. Teaching the dog to run and tree a coon is not the hard part, it is either bred into them or not. The handling and manners are the part that takes time. Seems that as soon as a dog runs and trees its own coon people want to put them in the hunts. Take an extra few months to teach the dog manners and how you want it to act and then you can hunt a dog that you will be proud of, instead of a dog that will get talked about for all the wrong reasons.

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I have seen alot of dogs run the tree. Some start fights, some don't. Depends alot on the dogs you are hunting with. My old male will back up and let them run. My female will take about three times of them falling on her and then she lets them know she don't appreciate it. She is a stand on the wood tree dog. Hunt pups with her or whatever you want and she will be fine. If a dog falls on her or tries to run her off the tree, they are getting ready to have a bad night. Is it her fault she won't put up with crap around the tree? NO, she don't like being landed on or bullied. Me neither. My son had a redbone female that would run the tree. The sire was the same way. The owner of the sire broke him and from then on he was a sit back every breath tree dog. Anyway, it is a fault that can be fixed, you just have to take the time to do it. Some take a little more effort then others. I never work on it until they can run and tree a coon by themselves and stay treed. After they are confident, then you work on it. If you do it to early you could possibly ruin them. A dog that jacks the tree may not be mean, but it will cause problems. Teaching the dog to run and tree a coon is not the hard part, it is either bred into them or not. The handling and manners are the part that takes time. Seems that as soon as a dog runs and trees its own coon people want to put them in the hunts. Take an extra few months to teach the dog manners and how you want it to act and then you can hunt a dog that you will be proud of, instead of a dog that will get talked about for all the wrong reasons.

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"How do you stop this?"

I have a dog that does it some, but not to the degree of falling on other dogs (4-5' at most if really pumped) and only on her spot on the tree.

The only way I've heard one broke is to take a short piece of rope or chain with a heavy socket on the end tied to the collar (about 8" long or so). As long as he doesn't jump, he just carries around the socket. But, when he starts jacking the tree, the socket swings up and bumps him on the head. I've known that to work. Doesn't take long, and dog associates the jumping with the unpleasantness. If you shock 'em or something, they associate it with being on the tree....don't want that.

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Ok Ive read all this about tree jacking and can understand the arguments on both sides. I want to hear more about the gnawing issue? How does a dog gnawing on a tree cause an issue with the others there? I have a dog that sometimes chews on the bark for a quick second and goes back to treeing feet on the wood head thrown back. Opinions?

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Well lets see if i can get Kordog to yell at me about this, i don't think a little gnawing affects other dogs, unless the dog is gnawing on the other dogs then there will most likely be problems but if a dog sits at the tree and chews for long periods of time then there will be problem because it can get so bad that the 2 minute rule gets them. Or it just annoys you while out pleasure hunting.

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"How do you stop this?"

I have a dog that does it some, but not to the degree of falling on other dogs (4-5' at most if really pumped) and only on her spot on the tree.

The only way I've heard one broke is to take a short piece of rope or chain with a heavy socket on the end tied to the collar (about 8" long or so). As long as he doesn't jump, he just carries around the socket. But, when he starts jacking the tree, the socket swings up and bumps him on the head. I've known that to work. Doesn't take long, and dog associates the jumping with the unpleasantness. If you shock 'em or something, they associate it with being on the tree....don't want that.

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