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Grady, A good dog wont start the track in the pasture, he will go straight to where the coon is....I wouldent expect you to understand, but I have to try.

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Grady, A good dog wont start the track in the pasture, he will go straight to where the coon is....I wouldent expect you to understand, but I have to try.

LOL A good dog won't start a track in pasture. LOL youare right I don't understand. You way smart...................

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Exactly what I thought....Good luck with those ground pounders.

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Exactly what I thought....Good luck with those ground pounders.


Yep and luck to you and your air scent/esp dogs. lol

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3 of the 4 grandparents in M.M. Blues ped are Vaughn bred, I would guess probably vaughn bloodlines...
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Theo...I haven't been able to find anything online about those old blues from before the Mountain Music dogs. It is probably in some of the books written by some of the older guys but I don't have them. Maybe in some of the old 'Blue Books". I have some older 'Blue Books' packed away. If I don't forget, I will do some more searching and let you know what I come up with. The name Lee Brothers keeps coming up in my mind. OO Grant is another one. Gaither. I think I'm gettin more confused as I go! I did see Smokey River Diamond Jim's pedigree in some of my reading material. Saw where a Smokey River dog won the UKC world hunt one year. Tell me...can your read a guys post and tell whether he is a walker man just from that?

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Re: Can a dog learn to have a colder nose?

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I've got a pretty nice dog here that is 3yrs old that will split tree a cast to death and tries hard to have a coon in most of his trees. I've seen him take a track away from dogs and be finished before they can settle in. When he is on he is going to be a cast winning dude.

My question comes from nights that it seems like later in the night of a long hunt and on a snow or heavy frost he will work and work a track but just can't seem to line it out very often. Tonight I didn't turn out until after midnight and I had the same kind of night it just seemed like he was grabbing tracks he couldn't handle. Is a dogs nose just what it's going to be or can it get better with more exposure to old tracks and cold frosty nights?

I don't know if you got a satisfactory answer to your question or not but you did get a lot of opinions and subject changes along the way and back to square one again. My final answer is 'Maybe...but probably not' with what you have. If you want that kind of dog you need to look around and find someone who has a lot of that in their bloodlines and get some of that.

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Re: Can a dog learn to have a colder nose?

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I've got a pretty nice dog here that is 3yrs old that will split tree a cast to death and tries hard to have a coon in most of his trees. I've seen him take a track away from dogs and be finished before they can settle in. When he is on he is going to be a cast winning dude.

My question comes from nights that it seems like later in the night of a long hunt and on a snow or heavy frost he will work and work a track but just can't seem to line it out very often. Tonight I didn't turn out until after midnight and I had the same kind of night it just seemed like he was grabbing tracks he couldn't handle. Is a dogs nose just what it's going to be or can it get better with more exposure to old tracks and cold frosty nights?



Ok colder nose, no, but learn how to use it, heck yes. A track out in the ice would be really hard if you think about it. It would be tough to know how old or witch way it was going. Ground is frozen out in the open but maybe not under the trees or under the grass yet. Coon running threw leaves, grass or other things that can be disturbed and get unfrozen scent to the top would make it seem more frish than when it hits ground frozen more solid. I personaly think they will get better with age but most dog aren't in those conditions enough to learn much. I would say a man would have to hunt it as much as possible for as long as possible on nights like that. Might take being out early and staying late so the dog is there as it gets colder. But A good smart dog will learn it.

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My thoughts: You can't have the "perfect dog". I find a lot of these posts some one is in the seek for just that, and it doesn't exist. All dogs have flaws. Even your world champions have some sort of flaw, thats just life. No person is perfect, dogs are the same.

Being content isn't such a bad thing. I have dogs that compliment each other- ones weakness is anothers strength. Now if you competition hunting make the best of what you have.

I think consistency is the most important trait I personally look for in a dog. And it sounds like you already have that.

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My thoughts: You can't have the "perfect dog". I find a lot of these posts some one is in the seek for just that, and it doesn't exist. All dogs have flaws. Even your world champions have some sort of flaw, thats just life. No person is perfect, dogs are the same.

Being content isn't such a bad thing. I have dogs that compliment each other- ones weakness is anothers strength. Now if you competition hunting make the best of what you have.

I think consistency is the most important trait I personally look for in a dog. And it sounds like you already have that.



I agree with that me and this dog are learning each other right now and I want to give him the oppourtunities he needs to perform at his best.

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No perfect dogs and no perfect people but you never know who good either can get if you don't try for perfection. He only has 2 winters in him. The first I am sure he wasn't old enough to learn much. Good luck

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