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I invited anyone to come go hunting with me above. I squal if posible when I think the dog needs to see it was right in it's choice of tree picking. I have one 1 1/2 yo and a 6 month old pup stays on leash till the older one has a good throat hold.
If you are in the tree you will miss most or all of what happens. Quicker than a lot of shot coon. Oh by the way I have seen some get away.

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well i sure would like to see him go climb some of the big ole telephone poles we got around here and shake the coon out of the tree and just to ask what do you think the anti's would think reading about you putting a pop bottle on the end of your gun stickin it to the coons head and killing oh and my pride can take it so let me have your best shot

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well i sure would like to see him go climb some of the big ole telephone poles we got around here and shake the coon out of the tree and just to ask what do you think the anti's would think reading about you putting a pop bottle on the end of your gun stickin it to the coons head and killing oh and my pride can take it so let me have your best shot

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i get that its a joke but tell that to the anti's do you think they're gonna read the whole thing or just use bits and pieces because last i checked they're good at doin such things as i have done which proves my point as why would you put something on here for them to use

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i get that its a joke but tell that to the anti's do you think they're gonna read the whole thing or just use bits and pieces because last i checked they're good at doin such things as i have done which proves my point as why would you put something on here for them to use

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i'm simply saying practice what you preach

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i'm simply saying practice what you preach

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When the anti's learn to sustain life with out takeing life I might listen to them or care what they think. Untill then this is America. I will say what I want , do what I want and they can do the same. I'm not hideing in a closet or refraining from talking about what I do becouse somebody doesn't like it.

Hunters have been doing that for years. It isn't working.

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The antis are undefeated ... they will win in the long run.

The question is whether you want to prolong it , or give them more ammo to end it quicker .


Grady , you sound like a kid ... putting your feelings ahead of the big picture and the facts .

Look at dogfighting , cocking and anything else they have set their sights on .

The public will always vote us out the door ... they will not care about right or wrong .. like most humans , they will react to what they SEE and HEAR on TV And in the PRESS ... and vote according to that ... their brain and our rights will not effect their vote.

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The antis are undefeated ... they will win in the long run.

The question is whether you want to prolong it , or give them more ammo to end it quicker .


Grady , you sound like a kid ... putting your feelings ahead of the big picture and the facts .

Look at dogfighting , cocking and anything else they have set their sights on .

The public will always vote us out the door ... they will not care about right or wrong .. like most humans , they will react to what they SEE and HEAR on TV And in the PRESS ... and vote according to that ... their brain and our rights will not effect their vote.

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well, i did a little bit of searching on justin smith. since he's way up high on his soap box preaching to all of us how we should ethically make a kill and how the antis are watching these message boards. well sir i found plenty of statements in previous posts of yours which contradict what you are saying to all of us so here are some quotes of his that i found.

It's BEST to let the dogs roll one as he hits the ground and run him up another tree only a few feet away

shoot the dog , whip the possum

Spotlight them at night ... you can dessimate them in just a few nights and not have to worry about traps ... just need some of that heavy buckshot or scoped centerfire rifle.

we used to go the the rooster fights all night and be at work in the parking lot to catch a few winks before work

I usually climb up the tree and get behind the coon , screw a pop bottle over the barrel and put it to the back of the coon's head ....
do the thing and then throw him in the trunk so I can haul him to the river and throw him over the bridge ... that's how we do it in these parts when coon don't pay up their protection money.


and you tell us that we're bad for the sport of hunting and not to brag or talk about these things yet you do. so in MNF fashion you Justin Smith get a big C'MON MAN

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Ya'll lay off Justin now! You might hurt his feelings talking about all his past post. You know if it is not on this post it don't count. lmao I just wonder if his dog is better than Jerry's old High Ball lol!! I am just stiring the fire guess I will stop but ya'll continue this post is hilarious!!

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One of you thinks I'm a coward , the other thinks I'm a bully ... if you're gonna gang up ... at least put up a unified front , yall will never break me down like this , lol.

I break the law every day , twice on Sunday ... I just don't post about it or let things out that hunters do so that the antis or anyone else can add fuel to their fire ... and I expect the same from other REAL hunters ... if you can't handle that , then you better turn your read when scrolling over my posts.

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Fare enough if you will do the same. I can agree to disagree with no problem. Have very good friends I keep that way. Sorry about the coward thing but you did start that with the me being a kid comment. I might be but my guess is I have a kid as old or older than you.

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One of you thinks I'm a coward , the other thinks I'm a bully ... if you're gonna gang up ... at least put up a unified front , yall will never break me down like this , lol.

I break the law every day , twice on Sunday ... I just don't post about it or let things out that hunters do so that the antis or anyone else can add fuel to their fire ... and I expect the same from other REAL hunters ... if you can't handle that , then you better turn your read when scrolling over my posts.

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If you have to watch what you say and be afraid of the anti's to be a REAL hunter I will NEVER be one.
If they ever get laws past to end hunting it won't last long. When the deer and the hog get so populated that there kids are getting kiled on the highway running into them. They will lift the ban. I would hate to see that happen but if they ban hunting that is exactly what would happen.

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You would call a dog a kill dog that was finishing off winged out coon ?

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I try to shoot my coon out dead for the most part. i like a good kill dog if there not o well just as long as they tree coon. mr. smithl
listening to ya talk maybe you should take up knitting or something. you sound like one of those animal right people your worried about the coons feelings.

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i wacth alot of tv during voting time and not one time have i ever heard the word coon hunting. i can say won thing at least with are killer dogs that coon gets taken back and harvestead. i find alot of deer with arrows and slug holes in them that hunters don't find and nobdy says nothing about that. i agree with okie dog if we have to watch what we say then were already in trouable.

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Well the point I was trying to get across was that you chicken fighters tried your best to do just what you are doing now. Be quite and not give them any thing to use against you and you lost the battle.
Hunting is a lot differant than cock fighting and they will find is a lot more of us and I for one might loose but it won't be becouse I am trying to hide my sport. If people saw cock fighting on tv every day and got use to it. It might still be legal. Who knows how is the best way to fight but getting them use to it and letting the people know what really happens in the woods is the best way to go for me. I think the more people see the more they get hardened to it.

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Well guys, I've just got into to coon hunting hard and heavy about 2 years ago when I got my blue pup. I used to go when I was like 5, now I'm 20 and I got 2 coondogs now. I love every single minute of it. I know that a lot of yall older guys know a lot more about coonhunting and what yall think are the correct ethics and all, but I don't get no better feeling then my dogs that I raised from pups run out and bay some coons for me. No I don't shoot all the coons they tree but one at aleast every 5 hunts. Some I shoot out are dead as a doornail when they fall and others still got some fight in them. My blue pup is silent on track and she can catch them on the ground and have them dead by the time I get to them. I haven't yet had either dog tore no worse than superglue couldn't fix. I never shook out a coon to them because they tend to climb the tall trees. I think a coondogs has to have the thirst for blood if they will turn out to be ones to hunt and keep for life. These are my first two and I'm gonna keep them until they die. I think they are gritty, and tough. They love gettin down and dirty with coons. When my blue pup catches them on the ground I wouldn't dare shoot my rifle near my pup regaurdless if the coon is fighting like hell, I will just give it a good firm kick and let the dogs take control. Call it what you want and say what your gonna say, but I just love coonhunting in general.I would never turn my dogs on one right out of a trap and drop them on a coon running across the road. I give them a fighting chance to survive. There is no sense in just straight causing them to fight but it does happen. I don't know how else to coonhunt, my dogs wouldn't have any drive to hunt if they don't get rewarded. I'm goin to hunt until my knees give out. If ya got good advise I would love to hear it. If there are any wise men on here, let's here wisdom. I like reading hunting forums and getting tips and hearing all angles from differnt people. Well thanks for everybodys time who read my post!

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Brettlil, the only thing I would ask is why you wouldn't dump on one crossing the road (unless you don't have permission to hunt there) and why you wouldn't run one out of a trap. Both of these are good to give a pup hot tracks to learn to track to tree.
Nothing wrong with either one. Same as all the rest, some they will tree some they won't. You might be surprised how many you will never find that you dump on crossing a road in the dry summer time. The trap, it is up to you how long you wait till you release the dog. One minute or one hour depends on your dogs training level.

By the way the trap and release is about the only way you will ever know how old of track your dog can run and in what conditions. Lots of variables out there.

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No my bad, you must have miss understood what I meant by those. What I was sayin was that I wouldn't let my dogs jump on a coon as soon as I open the trap. I taught them to hunt with trapped coon. Always givin the coon 5 to 10 minutes startin out then 30 to 45 minutes. I just wouldn't let my dogs fight a coon right out of the trap. Some people told me that's the only way to make my dogs tough is to turn a coon loose on them.I don't believe that trash. I want the coons to have a chance to get away and out smart them. and about turning them on a road coon, I done that before and my dogs caught it like 30 yards away and killed it a cow pasture. That's not coon hunting my book. I would rather just drop the tailgate and let the hounds run through the swamps and tree the elusive ringtale, the ol fashion way!

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Yep in good weather the road thing is just another way of getting a fresh track to a pup. On hot dusty Okla. roads it can be tough even on a good hound though. It can be done same as trap release though just have to wait the right amount of time. Like you though if I have dogs I can take,drop the tail gate and open the box doors then all the other crap is over. As long as I have one dog that can find a coon I don't mess with the rest much.
I don't even like feeders but in some parts of training I have seen were they would be a great help for a short period of time but would mess a dog up if left on them to long.

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Yea I used to hunt over feeders to my dogs used to the hunt. They both are about 2 years old. I think I'm gonna comp hunt my redtick. She is pretty good I think,but my blue dog is grade but one of the best that I've seen. I'm sure my blue dog could win hunts. People might say she is a mutt and other stuff but ill put her up against any hound. I would even bet money on my pup. I haven't seen any dog dog around here to catch as many coon on the ground as my blue pup. I have hunted with a few people around here but my pup seems to have the edge on them. I think its funny but my buddy got mad at me because my blue pup had a coon in ditch like 15 minutes before his grandnight champ got there. He bragged so much about his dog but my pup gets the coon and gets its first and fast. If she had papers she would already have some titles. Atleast I think so. But anywho for all these people talkin about dog fightin coon, I think if my pup aint never been in a blood thirsty fight, she wouldn't have the drive like she has. She is an ol fashion grade coondog, and coon treeing machine!!!

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