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He has about as much of a chance to take our guns as the republicans have at reversing Roe v Wade. Nobody needs a gun that shoots 60 rounds per minute that is not in military uniform.

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I have not seen you on here lately, thought maybe you were CAMPED OUT in D.C. waiting on the BIG PARTY, LOL????????????????

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the reference to mrs. obama is the gov. of il. stating that his wife is more qualified to serve on private boards than mrs. obama who he states has no experience in the private sector and she should have the opportunity to do so and reap the rewards that have fallen to mrs. obama... that is what is in the fbi statement about mrs. obama... now no doubt being the wife of a senator has perks, she is also v.p. of chicago hospitals inc. which pays 271,000 plus per yr., is an attorney, the board mentioned is a vendor of walmart pays 51,000 per plus stock options, unfortunately commonplace in our political system, not just found in illinois, need to get this kinda stuff out of the process and have elected officals beholding to the public and not vested interests as is the case now, not a party or state issue, but the way things are in u.s. politics....

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Originally posted by Nelson Kirkland
He has about as much of a chance to take our guns as the republicans have at reversing Roe v Wade. Nobody needs a gun that shoots 60 rounds per minute that is not in military uniform.

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agree with what mr. rice has to say about firearms ownership, not about the liberal take over of banking, insurance, auto, believe the Bush administration is still in charge and has impemented bailout etc... don't think liberals are in control of most big business-corporate entities, but back to the original firearms issue, the antis are not going to be content with just some forms of regulation, their bottom line is the elimination of private ownership of all guns, method is to chip away, little at a time, assault weapons, big magazine handguns, on and on, need to be vigilant and not become complacent, the antis are banking on the idea that some gun owners will not worry about guns they do not feel the need for, the 1st step toward disarming the private citizen, won't happen overnight, remember an inactive-apathetic majority can-is often controlled by an active minority...

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important to be active in support of constitutional right to private ownership of firearms, contact those in congress to make your thoughts known, if not an nra member join, the anti forces are always activists, gun supporters must be the same.....

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Originally posted by John Wittenborn
I have not seen you on here lately, thought maybe you were CAMPED OUT in D.C. waiting on the BIG PARTY, LOL???????????????? Naw John just been coon hunting like i should have been doing the election. No d.c. for me.

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From another site..


With the recent news that the military is being used to "help" in domestic law enforcement, flagrantly in violation of the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, the increasing federalization and militarization of local police, the simultaneous introduction of encoded ammunition bills into state legislatures, and a host of other events and legislation portending government attempts at widespread gun confiscation, I thought it would be a good time to reacquaint people with the Combat Arms Survey given to Marines at the 29 Palms Marine Base in California in 1994.

The survey was designed to gauge Marines' willingness to serve under foreign commanders and also to gauge their willingness to fire on Americans who resisted government efforts to confiscate their firearms.

The final question, #46, was worded as follows:

“The US government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement: I would fire upon US citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the US government.”

Below are links to the entire survey and to a recent blog post by William Norman Grigg which describes the survey and its ramifications much better than I can.

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/419.html

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.co...-revisited.html

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still waiting for ONE, thats right just ONE, crediable article on the "several" republicans in obamas cabinet. if this claim you made was true, surely there would be atleast ONE article discussing something this newsworthy?

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rance,
let go brother, even conservative talk radio has supported the obama cabinet picks... once again, than no more, several is more than one, sorry if my definition does not meet your criteria what ever that is... congressman ray lahood as sec. of transportation, 7 terms in the house, a republican, know him as well, from peoria, il..., Sec. of Defense Gates-hold over from the Bush administration, and I stated the two military gentleman lean toward the gop, nat. security, vet. affairs, many go through life looking, but rarely seeing... like said before will agree with anything you like just to make you feel better and give you some feeling of winning-being right if that is so important to you.... bottom line obama is going to be the president if you like it or not... have a great christmas and wondeful new yrs... hey looks like at the moment, franken a demo ,is going to be the winner in mn.,, hope whover it is there actually got the most votes....

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rrs, can you not just say "Yes" or "No" to a simple question? I'm not saying you are wrong in what you are saying, I hope that you are right. That said, you were asked a simple question that you could have answered with a simple yes or no and you have refused.

Are you a politition?

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have read quite a few articles about obama app'ts..., look at poltical base.com, it has a comprehensive list of appointments.... believe should have said obama appointments and not just cabinet as national security-vet. affairs are not actual cabinet positions... my contention was-is that obama appointments are diverse in makeup with some being republican, mentioned them several times, also that believe much more important what is inside a box than the box itself... not sure what a yes or no answer would be to, bottom line a diverse group of rather moderate appointees which does include some republicans, seems like the contention is the meaning of several, which I take tpo mean more than 1, less than many.... there are lots of articles that have talked about the obama appointments... again, will agree to be wrong if that makes some happy, by the way never advocated for-against, just that the appointments are moderate types and diverse with some being republican or with gop tendancy... all done, no more, have said all can say, believe whatever you choose, life goes on, hope the new president is able to lead-move us all forward regardless of party affiliation, move beyond partisnaship and do what needs to be done for the good of the whole nation... guess time will tell....

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Originally posted by rrs
rance,
let go brother, even conservative talk radio has supported the obama cabinet picks...

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rrs, can you not just say "Yes" or "No" to a simple question? I'm not saying you are wrong in what you are saying, I hope that you are right. That said, you were asked a simple question that you could have answered with a simple yes or no and you have refused.

Are you a politition?

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Obamas presidency will be shorter than JFK

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Originally posted by rrs
have read quite a few articles about obama app'ts...,

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like said 2 republicans, 2 that tend to be gop types, to me that is several, same information in every source that I have read, left or right leaning sources, or middle of the road report the same....

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already did post, politicalbase.com is one, but are many that basically say the same thing, cnn, yahoo, many major newspapers as well, sure there are numerous sites as well that I have not read or seen, a cornicupia of sites to select from....

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like said 2 republicans, 2 that tend to be gop types, to me that is several, same information in every source that I have read, left or right leaning sources, or middle of the road report the same....

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already did post, politicalbase.com is one, but are many that basically say the same thing, cnn, yahoo, many major newspapers as well, sure there are numerous sites as well that I have not read or seen, a cornicupia of sites to select from....

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rance, how do you know it dont make them a rep. Its just your opinion just like its his opinion on what he says. Doesnt matter if he wont give a straight answer or not hes not on the cabinet and wont be making any critical decisions.LOL Like was stated before your beating a dead horse MOVE ON this country needs to .

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rance,
get off of it brother, sorry if you have to navigate to the specific article, does name calling make you feel better-must... never said 4, but several, did say that the two military gentleman tended to be more in line with gop ideals than not, you know that my intent was never about labels-affiliation, more about ability to perform... you will never be satisfied period and will always find something to be negative about... sorry can't do whatever it is that you want, but if did than you could not call people liars, etc... name calling is a real mark of intelligence... again, as always respect your thoughts-ideas, will not call you names, be negative, but no sense trying to ride a dead horse, you have already mounted and rode it to death... have a great christmas and wonderful new yr....

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rance,
get off of it brother, sorry if you have to navigate to the specific article, does name calling make you feel better-must... never said 4, but several, did say that the two military gentleman tended to be more in line with gop ideals than not, you know that my intent was never about labels-affiliation, more about ability to perform... you will never be satisfied period and will always find something to be negative about... sorry can't do whatever it is that you want, but if did than you could not call people liars, etc... name calling is a real mark of intelligence... again, as always respect your thoughts-ideas, will not call you names, be negative, but no sense trying to ride a dead horse, you have already mounted and rode it to death... have a great christmas and wonderful new yr....

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here is another link with

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_11279236

here is the exact paragraph, its somewhat far down.

The Cabinet nominees are a fairly diverse lot. There are five women, if one includes Jackson and Susan Rice, the nominee for U.N. ambassador, whose positions Obama considers Cabinet-rank. (Also named yesterday to head the sub-Cabinet Small Business Administration was Karen Mills, a Maine businesswoman.) There are three Lationos, four blacks two Republicans - Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Ray LaHood, a retiring Illinois congressman who was named yesterday to be secretary of transportation.

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