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I think I hunt in as thin a coon pop as anyone on here. I usually have my pups running and treeing with the old dogs by 9 months old IF I've hunted them like they should be.

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My training sessions start on day 1. I go out and spend time with my pups multiple times a day, call their name and give them treats when they come to the door and love them up and just teach them little things as soon as there weaned. I feel, in my expierience that doing this really speeds up the process of starting a pup because of the interaction between you ad the pup, the pup realizez that you are there pack leader, and they need to please you. No pup is the same and I think 9 months old is too young to be culling, but with that said if there not showing me promise by a year old they are dead around here.

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My pup is 11 months old and he made his first attempt to tree an open tree saturday evening, he has not been overly fooled with on a caged coon, i let him pass one in the yard one afternoon and he barked some on him , but not much, after that its been all wild coons in wild woods . monday night he made his first atempt to strike on his own ( he didnt have a clue what to do but alteast he tried ) so i have worked this pup slow sence erly spring and he has come along fine, i am pleased so far

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My pup is 11 months old and he made his first attempt to tree an open tree saturday evening, he has not been overly fooled with on a caged coon, i let him pass one in the yard one afternoon and he barked some on him , but not much, after that its been all wild coons in wild woods . monday night he made his first atempt to strike on his own ( he didnt have a clue what to do but alteast he tried ) so i have worked this pup slow sence erly spring and he has come along fine, i am pleased so far

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I am in barbourville ky southeast ky near the tn line. To clear that up a 9 month old can and will tree with other dogs at 9 months old wasn't what i was saying at all..I mean you cant expect a 9 month old to be as advanced here as it would be in say well populated coon. Asking a pup to go a half mile to find a track to tree alone is asking a little too much in my opinion naturally if you have worked your young dog since an early early age there will be exceptions but, here, there is a LOT more junk than coon.

I am not the best trainer that ever came along and prefer to do most everything the hard way for my own reasons. I rarely fool with caged coon and scents to train. Occasionally I hang up a shot out coon and tug of war with the dog a bit, but i prefer my pups have on the job training in the wild might start later but, I have tried and tested the method and have raised a couple real nice young dogs that had never seen a caged coon that would tree coon with anything but he was 13 months old before he took off but when dogs would hang up on an empty tree the dog would take it on and tree it and have the meat. Seen him do it plenty of times. The dog im working now hasnt took off hunting real good yet but, he is getting better and better every time i take him uses his nose instead of his eyes...and will make a fine hound when he puts it all together.

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WOW, listening to some of yall has got me to thinking I been giving up on puppies too soon. If the past, if there 9 months old and not treeing good there about to find another home.

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WOW, listening to some of yall has got me to thinking I been giving up on puppies too soon. If the past, if there 9 months old and not treeing good there about to find another home.

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I dont really care weather he trees or not untill hes around a year, and then i look for it to happen , before that i dont care.
youve got to get him to the tree before you can tree him
Yawl can have all those slick treeing start early fools lol
It starts at the tail gate and ends at the tree jmop

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If you give up when their 9 months old i assure you your giving up too soon. Certain bred up dogs have a history of being early starters. Not sure whats the blood now but I hear the elvis dogs start early but cant confirm as i dont own one but I know a guy that does and his is 16 months old getting it done like a 4 year old.

I had an xjr dog that went all the way with old dogs at 9 months old and treed and ran tracks good. I had a dog out of a walker named "Blue ridge drive" treed by itself 1st time in the woods. Once in the ground (you could hear the coon growling) and up a tree 2nd turn out too bad someone stole it off the tree or something happened to it before i got there...old dog came off to me so that was not normal. But I rarely see that.

We have coon up the road not too far but i cant get up that way very often dont have many people to hunt with since most are working when i can go.

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Russ, from what I've seen on the posts you seem to have a way with pups. How often do you have young started dogs for sale?

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Not very often to be honest. I generally only raise a litter maybe two a year & don't have much luck getting large litter's so most stay here. I do set up a few young guy's here & there with pup's & on the rare occassion I have one to part with that meet's the standards there is someone wanting it.

I could sell a pile of them but to me in this stage of my life it's about quality & I have a hard time partin with them.

Been contimplating all fall sellin my "Patch" dog because of lack of ability to hunt him rite but I do beleive I just found a man that's gonna take him & hunt the hair off'n him till the snow get's to deep.

You might say I get a lil attached to them!!

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i expexct a 9 month old to do no more than eat and ****, i wont even try to start a dog untill around 10 months old that gives the dog more age and wont be as playfull or anything, my best dog didnt even start running coons untill he was 11 months old, i wont go much past a year old but that 3 months makes a world of difference.

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If the dog has enough hunt in it to track and tree at 9 months, dont you have a lot of trouble with it also running trash? Not being cocky at all, just wondering because all the dogs I've had in the past which has only been rabbit beagles, would run trash(They have no idea it's trash till I broke them off of it) if they had a lot of "hunt" in them. The only dogs I had that would not run trash has been the ones that did not run anything. I'm fairly new to coonhunting, so is it just that hounds bred right just do not like anything other than coon, or do they just learn that coon is the only thing that gets them fur in their mouth? The coonhound that I am hunting was a young broke dog when I bought it, so I havn't had to deal with trashbreaking a pup yet. Thanks.

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I have tried to raise a few Young dogs, but have discovered that I really dont hunt eneough for young dogs, and when I do, I have had problems with Young hounds striking and leaving on trash before the Older hound ever strikes a Coon track, then I end up going to the old dogs tree, and listening to the young dog, run off with some critter. Sad but true, I felt it was time to be honest.

I usually only hunt on the Weekends, due to work.
I would like to one day have a Young dog, that starts off treeing stuff, I dont care if its Coons, Possums, or Squirrels.
It usually ends up being Hogs, Fox, or Deer.

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ive seen a few pretty good dogs at 9 mnths old ,awesome for their age,but ive learned not to get too excited about it because ive seen too many of them never get much better.

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depends on the pup AND THE HANDLER HE IS IMPORTANT IN THE TRAINING.if i rase a pup and it is not treeing his owen coon at 9 months old.I DONT WOUNT TO FEED IT but i hunt the heck out of it.they dont learn by staying in the kennel that is why most dont belive wat a 9 month old can do becals they need rased rite and hunted hard.weekend hunters can not train a pup as fast as a hard hunter can.i hunt a pup more in a year than most do in 3 years that why i can start pups and love it most people can not start pups and ruen a lot of pups,i sean where some one on here posted that pups never started in the 70 till they was 2 years old,well i can tell you this i had the same good luck in the late 70 geting pups to run and TREE as i do now but most lines of hounds of today has been runed by to much tree power and not a nuff nose and for tracking and coon must be run befor a dog can tree it unless it is a layup coon,one man even said he would not sale a pup to a fellow becals he would shoot it a 9 months old if it was not started,i will tell you you would love to have him train one fr4om your line becals if it is in it he will bring it out ande make you as a breeder look good.most people will give me pups BECALS THEY KNOW I CAN TRAIN AND HUNT HARD

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i have a pup 9 months old all most.she has not been turned loose for 6 weeks due to starting a nother,bring the best 18 month old here and i will show you wat a pup can due.send me a pm 4 a hunt you will be supriced in this pup and yes her sister started the same way last winter you can see her go as well.both are verry loud and verry hard tree dogs.WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP THEM TILL THERE 2 YEARS OLD TO START AT 2 THEY SHOULD BE A COON DOG OR CULLED.when they hit 12 month old there are young dogs then not pups

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So should I or shouldnt I be excited about having 11month old pup treeing his own coon.

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So should I or shouldnt I be excited about having 11month old pup treeing his own coon.

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So should I or shouldnt I be excited about having 11month old pup treeing his own coon.

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