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I am sorry. You did not say five miles and I did not mean to make it sound like you did say five miles. Again I am sorry. Ralph Williams

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I am sorry. You did not say five miles and I did not mean to make it sound like you did say five miles. Again I am sorry. Ralph Williams


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If my dogs get out of range of my Garmin there is a problem.
Tracy is saying 1.5 miles with the collar in his house and him driving away.
We have yet to flat out lose signal on the dogs while out huntin.
Garmin is the best it has allowed me to drive around to the dogs and avoid alot of crap.
No more of that useless..beep..beep..beep Junk.
With this I know exactly where they are at.



Curtis,out there in your "flat" country.1.5 miles might be ok.Here in the mountains it would be all but useless.I use/need a system that works both for coon and bear hounds. I Have no "NEED" what so ever to know what path a hound took to get where he ended up,I just need to be able to locate him. Ans as far as coon tracks are concerned,late winter early spring chases of a mile or more are more common than you think. Plus here we dont have the coon numbers as you all do in the midwest.Many a nite hunt is won here with one coon scored.

For 25 plus years "beep beep" has served me well.See no reason to sacrafice range for the sake of knowin what path a hound took to get to a tree .

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bear hunter...The "Beep Beep" works good..but it cant pinpount then hounds to the exact ridge and spot on a map. Many times I have walked towards the ":beep Beep:", only to find that they are on the oppositie side of a river or canyon and have to back track and end up not being able to get to the tree during legal shooting hours.

The GArminworks good in these moutnains. We still fit our dogs with the "beep beep" but the Garmin has never lost their signal, even in the Mtns of East Tennessee and North Carolina.

I have seen them uswed anough and trust them that I traded my old "beep Beep" for a 2 dog Garmin system.

Instead of syaing they are "over that a ways"..I can tell the guys on the radio exactly what ridge they are on or canyone they are in and even give them coordinates,

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bear hunter...The "Beep Beep" works good..but it cant pinpount then hounds to the exact ridge and spot on a map. Many times I have walked towards the ":beep Beep:", only to find that they are on the oppositie side of a river or canyon and have to back track and end up not being able to get to the tree during legal shooting hours.

The GArminworks good in these moutnains. We still fit our dogs with the "beep beep" but the Garmin has never lost their signal, even in the Mtns of East Tennessee and North Carolina.

I have seen them uswed anough and trust them that I traded my old "beep Beep" for a 2 dog Garmin system.

Instead of syaing they are "over that a ways"..I can tell the guys on the radio exactly what ridge they are on or canyone they are in and even give them coordinates,



No offence wipeout,but after reading thread after thread on this and other boards of the limited range and collar problems,then factor in how heavy cover affects most GPS units....I'll stick with old "beep beep"Really have no need of knowing coordinates.Plus we know the areas we hunt,most times we know what ridge or which side of the river they are on.

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My big problem with the Garmin Astro, and I will admit I've never used one...is how could it work any better than say a Garmin Rino? I have a Gramin Rino for a personal GPS, and although it works better than some I've had...it's far from perfect. You will always see it lose it's satelite link for a while...during the summer with leaves it's a bit worse than in winter. Cloud cover, I use it's onboard compass instead. How could an Astro work even a little better?

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What the Astro does for me is it allows me to be more involved with the hunt. With my wildlife tracking box I turn my dog out, listen for him to strike and then listen while he works a track and some nights wonder why he broke down or why he had trouble in a different area or wonder if he checked a tree. As long as I hear my dog MY WILDLIFE box or anyones elses tracking box was not part of the hunt until the dogs are out of hearing, lost or in trouble.
With my astro it is being looked at from the time I cut the dog loose. I see if they are hunting or race horsing. I see which dog is running ahead and which one is cutting tracks. I see them heading out of the country before they get out of the country which allows me to make decisions to keep them in check.
I see if they go to a road and someone puts them in their vehicle and takes off with them. All this information in my opinion makes up for the shortcoming in range. Because I keep them in range and out of trouble. Now with that said, nothing is perfect. I know one man that lost his dog with this unit on and hopefully he found him. I had a deer hunter call me yesterday from the woods and he was excersing his dogs and one of his transmitters was messing up and the forgot to take the magnet out of his tracking collar. Double Wammy for him. Three months ago I said on these boards if I could get 1.5 miles with the handheld I would be happy. Maybe atmospheric condititons are better this month but with the cable antennas (which really don't increase anything, just position of the collar) I have been getting 1.5 to 2 miles test after test. Add the magnetic antenna and you get 4+ miles. Those numbers when added to the information I get from the system makes it work for me.

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For 25 plus years "beep beep" has served me well.See no reason to sacrafice range for the sake of knowin what path a hound took to get to a tree .
like the old saying goes if its not broke Dont fix it

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For some reason most of the negative comments about the garmin seem to come from those that dont have one and have never used one.

They work differently than a tracker, this takes some getting used to. Its not about finding lost dogs, its about KNOWING where a dog is and getting to them before they get lost, this saves me hunting time and much needed sleep.

As far as I am concerened this is one of the best tools a coonhunter can own.

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Bruce, no offence when you tell those #'s, remind people you live where there isn't any mountains. I think there is only one mountain in Florida that is over 100m and it's like 105m give or take 1 or 2m's. Where as the highest Mountain in WV is like 1500m. or Mike's state, the highest is almost 2000m.

Just like any tracking system, the range is going to depend on the area you hunt.

From the post I have been reading on the different forums, the #'s you are listing that you are getting are few and far between than what most people are getting.

I know we talked about it on the phone the other day about even our truck GPS units even having limits.

I would be interested in seeing a thread with different locations and terrains and all the feedback on what range people are getting from their Garmins.

I have seen many threads with guys saying they are lucky to even get a mile on a good night and others who say they get 1.5 miles and up to 2 on a good night.

It would be nice to know what kind of terrain and conditions those #'s are being hunted in.

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For some reason most of the negative comments about the garmin seem to come from those that dont have one and have never used one.
ive got to use one and i loved it but i cant afford one yeah if i had the money id get one

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IMO the range is compararable to my Tracker Maxima.

The garmin may loose signal a little sooner, but it shows where the dog was and what direction it was heading when the signal was lost.

To be honest, the first couple times I used the garmin I didnt think much of it....Once I figured out how to use it, it is far more valuable to me than my maxima.

2 miles is a long way where I hunt, if a dog goes further than that...it isnt looking for a coon or I shouldent be out hunting.

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The new Garmins are the only way to go. I love mine. The old beep beep trackers bounce signal way too bad in these eastern Kentucky hills. The Garmins dont have that problem and I like knowing exactly where my dog is instead of just knowing that it is over there in a certain direction somewhere. Plus many of the other things the Garmin tells you a beep beep just cant, like the speed your dog is traveling so you know if he is hunting or just running through the hills. If your dog is straightlining through an area or hunting. The garmin has been 100% accurate as to when my dog is treed and when its not, the old beep beep would double beep treed half the time especially if the collar got twisted around on a dogs neck. I have a lot of den trees and ground dens marked on mine so I know when my dog gets treed if he has a den so it saves my papaw a lot of walking up hills to see a hole in a tree, he loves that. My guess is that within a couple of years the old beep beep trackers will be a thing of the past and everyone will be hunting a Garmin or other brand of GPS tracker.

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I have the quick track 6000 they have a new antenna that just came out. Makes it eaiser to carry in the woods if need be. Only system I have used might switch to the Garmin but no time soon.....

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Shooot .... yall just need to get a coondog video game and be done with hunting .

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I have owned a TRX3, Tracker, and used a quick track 10. The one I use now is a Marshall 5 dog. Marshall is far a head of everybody. I don't like anything Tracker makes anything. Wildlife are ok you got near and far. Quick Track are better than Wildlife because they have near med and far. Marshall is the best they fold up. I care mine in a pistol case on my belt it also has near med and far.The new Marshall 1000 and 4000 has a removable handle so you will be able to care it in a case like a Tracker.

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Bruce, no offence when you tell those #'s, remind people you live where there isn't any mountains. I think there is only one mountain in Florida that is over 100m and it's like 105m give or take 1 or 2m's. Where as the highest Mountain in WV is like 1500m. or Mike's state, the highest is almost 2000m.

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They work just fine here in the Mountains of Eastern Tennessee and Western north Carolina.

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How about mentioning the type range your getting other than it works.............That is vague. I haven't seen anyone post that their's didn't work, but have seen people post all different ranges...........some happy with the range, some not happy with it.

Seen some post only getting a mile in clear terrain and some 1.5 miles in mountains,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mostly no one seems to mention the type terrain they are getting it in.

Are you getting 2 miles in the mountains? Was that before leaves were on the tree? Now that leaves are on the tree are you getting less range or the same? Are you getting the 4 miles Bruce is getting?

Will be more interesting to see the threads on all the different forums this summer as more people have the systems and most of the different threads on the forums is based on in the winter.

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According to my knowledge, the highest mountain in West Virginia is Spruce Mountain, which is 1,482 meters high

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According to my knowledge, the highest mountain in West Virginia is Spruce Mountain, which is 1,482 meters high


LOL mudman, that is why I said " is like 1500m" ---- I rounded it cause I didn't know the exact meters but knew it was very close to being 1500m.

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We have ant hills higher than 1500!

Our tallest is Mt Washington, stands at 6288 feet, and the WORLDS highest wind speed of 231 mph was clocked up there. Lets see ya tree a coon up on that hill lol

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. Lets see ya tree a coon up on that hill lol
lets hit that hill one of these time i come up there lol

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Coondogs are born with tracking systems ... either you find them or they need to have the sense to find you ... if either is broken , it's cheaper to get a better dog than a shocking , tracking and lighted collar system.


WOW!!! I prefer mine to find a coon, not me. LOL. Just razzing ya, have'nt seen ya on here in a while. The biggest benefit to a tracking system for me is for safety. I like being able to catch them before getting on the road. However i did not own a tracking system until i was 30 years old, i am 37 now and act like i can't go outside with out them. I sure am glad i have one now. Trott.

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How about mentioning the type range your getting other than it works.............That is vague. I haven't seen anyone post that their's didn't work, but have seen people post all different ranges...........some happy with the range, some not happy with it.

Seen some post only getting a mile in clear terrain and some 1.5 miles in mountains,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mostly no one seems to mention the type terrain they are getting it in.

Are you getting 2 miles in the mountains? Was that before leaves were on the tree? Now that leaves are on the tree are you getting less range or the same? Are you getting the 4 miles Bruce is getting?

Will be more interesting to see the threads on all the different forums this summer as more people have the systems and most of the different threads on the forums is based on in the winter.



With the new stylew antennae, we are getting anywhere from1.5 tp 2.5 miles in starightline ranges in the mountains. Plugged into the roof mount antennae on the trucks we get 5-8 miles..In fact we have never failed to get a signal. We are in full canopy now and it hasnt affects the range at all.
I believe most people never sit down and truly figure out how to use them.

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